by "Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
Published 10/25/2017 at 22:49
by "Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
Published 10/25/2017 at 22:49
Tags: yes I'm drinking a manhattan right now that's why i ask
STARS: 4
I know this site is all teetotalers, but y’all are my only online social group; so, I’ll ask here. My Mr. Boston handbook tells me that sweet vermouth should be stored in the fridge once opened. But my parents never did, and neither do I. I just keep it in the liquor cabinet. What is the Oppo consensus for those of you that keep a bar? Cold storage, or room temp? I’ve never noticed a big problem with RT, but maybe I’m just used to it?
"just-a-scratch" (just-a-scratch)
10/25/2017 at 22:55, STARS: 1
This is news to me. Research and experimentation are needed.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/25/2017 at 22:58, STARS: 1
Working on it now. A high n is necessary to achieve rigorous and reportable results.
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
10/25/2017 at 23:02, STARS: 2
To Science!
"traitor joe" (traitorjoe)
10/25/2017 at 23:08, STARS: 2
Vermouth is a fortified and aromatised wine, and like other wines it will go bad once opened. If you’re planning to drink the whole bottle quickly, say in a week or so, it probably doesn’t matter. But if you want it to keep longer then it should be refrigerated, where the taste will still deteriorate but a lot more slowly. Vermouth that has gone bad is still safe to drink, but it will taste sour, like vinegar. Then again, if you’re drinking Gallo, that might actually be an improvement.
"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
10/25/2017 at 23:08, STARS: 1
Vermouth goes bad (it’s basically wine), so you’re supposed to store it cold once opened. It’ll still go bad cold, but not as quickly. I’d say about three months max for opened Vermouth.
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
10/25/2017 at 23:09, STARS: 1
Beats me. I only have this because Martini. Which I’m drinking now. And there is enough in there for me to have about 800 martinis I think.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/25/2017 at 23:25, STARS: 0
I know wines enough to know the logic in that. And yet, this, while maderized, is not sour after a few months.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/25/2017 at 23:34, STARS: 2
Okay. This is well over that. I’ll have to drink the whole thing...for science.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/25/2017 at 23:35, STARS: 1
That’s dry vermouth, a different beast. However, I encourage you to run the experiment with whatever you have on hand.
"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
10/25/2017 at 23:36, STARS: 0
I don’t think it’ll get you sick. It might not just taste as good as it would fresh. Just check for mold and you should be ok.
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
10/25/2017 at 23:44, STARS: 1
I’m making do.
This prompted some research by me though, and it turns out all vermouth should be refrigerated. I just opened this recently, so thanks for that heads up!
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/25/2017 at 23:44, STARS: 0
I think you’re right.
Mold should float. So, if I skim, I’m good, right?
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/25/2017 at 23:45, STARS: 3
Drink it all. Quickly.
You’re welcome.
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
10/25/2017 at 23:51, STARS: 0
My Martinis have barely a splash of vermouth per drink. That’s a lot of alcohol there really.
But I’m working on it
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/25/2017 at 23:53, STARS: 1
I have faith in you.
In unrelated news, bury or cremate?
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
10/26/2017 at 00:04, STARS: 0
Huh?
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/26/2017 at 00:06, STARS: 1
Never mind. Just don’t drink yourself to death. ;)
I’m going to bed. I’ve done enough “research” for a week night.
"Kiltedpadre" (kiltedpadre)
10/26/2017 at 00:07, STARS: 1
I have personally never refrigerated vermouth. I can see the logic that others have said in that it is in essence wine though. I use it so rarely personally that I probably should store my next bottle in the fridge.
Yet another reason I need a minifridge for bar supplies.
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
10/26/2017 at 00:08, STARS: 1
Nah, not yet, and not on a Wednesday.
Cremate is the answer btw. Hopefully not any time soon.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/26/2017 at 00:09, STARS: 0
Right?
brb, searching Amazon...
"Kiltedpadre" (kiltedpadre)
10/26/2017 at 00:13, STARS: 1
I still need to get around to buying a true liquor cabinet so I figure minifridge will come later. I think I’ll hit up craigslist in the spring and see if anyone graduating from one of the local universities is selling a minifridge cheap.
"traitor joe" (traitorjoe)
10/26/2017 at 00:13, STARS: 1
I’ve had some vermouths that just seem to get flat and flavorless with time and others that get distinctly sour. If nothing else, keeping it in the fridge will make your drinks colder.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/26/2017 at 00:15, STARS: 0
That’s a really good idea!
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/26/2017 at 00:16, STARS: 0
That’s a good point.
"Kiltedpadre" (kiltedpadre)
10/26/2017 at 00:16, STARS: 2
Not buying, building a liquor cabinet. The rest of the plan was correct.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/26/2017 at 00:18, STARS: 0
That’s ambitious. Good luck and post the results if it ever happens.
I just put mine in a section of the china cabinet. Just took the locks off after the kid grew up enough.
"TrustMeImAnEngineer, but I'd rather be an InternationalArtThief" (trusttheengineer)
10/26/2017 at 00:25, STARS: 3
I never doubt Mr. Boston and for Vermouth, the ways to retain the flavor the longest, in order are:
Purge with nitrogen and refrigerate.
Purge with nitrogen.
Refrigerate.
Don’t refrigerate.
And let’s be honest none of us are serious enough to do the first two.
"Kiltedpadre" (kiltedpadre)
10/26/2017 at 00:26, STARS: 1
The plans aren’t super ambitious. It’s just a matter of being a cheapskate and wanting to find the main piece at the right price.
Basically, I plan to build shelving into an old trunk. Something like this. The exact design will depend on the trunk I find.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/26/2017 at 00:31, STARS: 0
You’re right.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/26/2017 at 00:33, STARS: 1
I think that’s cool, not cheap. I endorse this project wholeheartedly.
"Goggles Pizzano" (gogglespizzano)
10/26/2017 at 02:20, STARS: 1
And let’s be honest none of us are serious enough to do the first two.
*Cough*
:-)x
"SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media" (silentbutnotreallydeadly)
10/26/2017 at 06:47, STARS: 2
Tea tottle? Schme? Nyeeup. Shnot me. Fluck blow. Now wearsh my drink....?
"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
10/26/2017 at 07:51, STARS: 0
It should. Maybe let sit even longer and see if you can make a kombucha out of it.
"jmedarts" (jmedarts)
10/26/2017 at 07:53, STARS: 1
Never knew this. Just in time to buy a new bottle for Thanksgiving manhattans. Thanks!
"ateamfan42" (ateamfan42)
10/26/2017 at 10:07, STARS: 1
Just check for mold and you should be ok.
More likely than mold would be bacteria growth, which will make it sour. That is precisely how vinegar is made. “Vinegar” is basically French for “sour wine”.
I doubt old vermouth will hurt you, but the flavor will get more and more sour over time. So drink up!
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/26/2017 at 10:42, STARS: 0
Cheers!
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/26/2017 at 10:42, STARS: 0
May try that.
"WiscoProud" (wiscoproud)
10/26/2017 at 11:58, STARS: 1
Never put much thought into it, and always left it out. I guess it makes sense to refrigerate it though.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/26/2017 at 12:52, STARS: 1
Yeah, I’ll still mix it with whiskey and drink it anyway.
"dsigned001 - O.R.C. hunter" (dsigned001)
10/26/2017 at 22:33, STARS: 0
You have offended the liquor snob gods and now must send me a case of the best whiskey...
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
10/26/2017 at 22:36, STARS: 0
They told me you’d say that. No dice.