by "CB" (jrcb)
Published 10/25/2017 at 10:21
by "CB" (jrcb)
Published 10/25/2017 at 10:21
Tags: Opinions are like Assholes
STARS: 4
Mitsubishi becoming a non-sports car company is your fault for not buying their cars. None of us get to complain because odds are none of us cared in the first place.
"valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option" (valsidalv)
10/25/2017 at 10:26, STARS: 1
How dare you bring your reality and facts here??!!
That being said, a halo car is something every manufacturer has and it keeps the brand image alive, even if they don’t make money off of it.
"random001" (random001)
10/25/2017 at 10:26, STARS: 1
Can we get a modern Montero, then?
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
10/25/2017 at 10:26, STARS: 5
The fucking circlejerk is unbearable sometimes. Who gives a shit anymore, sports cars have never been profitable. I swear there’s a relevant xkcd on this.
"CB" (jrcb)
10/25/2017 at 10:27, STARS: 0
If you want it as a seven-seater CUV, then yep.
"CB" (jrcb)
10/25/2017 at 10:28, STARS: 1
The Internet Circlejerk is unbearable.
"Party-vi" (party-vi)
10/25/2017 at 10:29, STARS: 3
Bullshit. Mitsubishi is doing the same thing every other large manufacturer is doing - tossing low volume sporty models for high volume sellers. Mitsubishi never had anything competitive here anyway. The 3000GT was too expensive and weird, the Eclipse was a joke after the 2nd gen stopped production, the Galant is a shitbox, the Diamante was an unknown flagship sedan, and you can’t build an empire off selling a $30-$40K boy racer mobile.
ETA: This sounds more aggressive than intended. Also, the Diamante was the shit.
"Discerning" (discerning2003c5z)
10/25/2017 at 10:31, STARS: 1
Mitsubishi is in dire straits in the US because their more vanilla offerings are not selling well. Sports cars are not profitable, as someone else mentioned. Mitsubishi needs to rebuild their foundation before they go out and start building a new Evo.
"BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires" (biturbo228)
10/25/2017 at 10:32, STARS: 2
Not opinion, fact. It’s like the people who complain how bad their life is but refuse to do anything to change it.
Still, I’ll be sad if Alfa or Maserati or Jag goes under, even though I haven’t bought any of their cars. The fact they haven’t made anything that I actually want to buy since the time I have the money to purchase it (i.e. since I was born) is by-the-by.
"BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires" (biturbo228)
10/25/2017 at 10:33, STARS: 0
Sports cars used to be profitable in the 60s. Britain built their entire export market around them.
Sports cars are no longer profitable in the majority of cases ( cough Porsche cough M-series cough AMG).
"CB" (jrcb)
10/25/2017 at 10:34, STARS: 1
I can’t see Jag going, but I can see Alfa going under and not being long here in North America.
"awmaster10" (awmaster10)
10/25/2017 at 10:34, STARS: 0
The current gen Pajero may be unibody so technically a crossover but it’s still capable and would be a great deal for a family hauler if it was sold here.
"random001" (random001)
10/25/2017 at 10:37, STARS: 1
If it’s built like a tank like the classics...
"BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires" (biturbo228)
10/25/2017 at 10:37, STARS: 0
Yeah Alfa’s definitely teetering, although I do think that if they’re stuck with they can make headway. Just needs perseverance, which takes money, which Fiat hasn’t got a fantastic amount of.
Jag’s a testament to that. Back in the dying days of the Ford era they were in the exact same state as Alfa. Inject a bunch of cash from an investor that actually has the will and patience to succeed in the automotive landscape and a sprinkle of inspirational leadership and job done.
"fintail" (fintail)
10/25/2017 at 10:41, STARS: 0
Do we know if Jag is running in the black yet? Tata has deep pockets and might keep it going just for image and ego.
"B/Xmrrmvr" (davidedumass)
10/25/2017 at 11:05, STARS: 1
I told a college friend a few years back to get the Evo 10 over the STI because he’ll never take it off asphalt, and he listened! I consider that doing my part :D
"Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
10/25/2017 at 11:06, STARS: 1
I could have afforded to buy an EVO, but I live in a state with no Mitsubishi dealer, I have two kids and a large dog. So I bought a Subaru Outback. I also see Mitsubishi going down the road of Suzuki and Isuzu and fading out of the picture entirely in the next 2-5 years. Honestly I’m surprised they are still trying to sell passenger cars in the US.
"Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
10/25/2017 at 11:07, STARS: 0
Diamante VR-4 FTW.
"Party-vi" (party-vi)
10/25/2017 at 11:14, STARS: 0
lelz. The best the Diamante got was a 3.0L V6 and AWD pushing 207hp.
"Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
10/25/2017 at 11:21, STARS: 0
U burst my bubble.
"Party-vi" (party-vi)
10/25/2017 at 12:37, STARS: 0
That is my purpose.
"Thir-STi" (penseearrow)
10/25/2017 at 12:42, STARS: 0
I never thought Mitsu was a reliable vehicle. Then again my headgasket went at 50k on my STi needing a full rebuild.
"Saracen" (manualdoucheelitist)
10/25/2017 at 12:54, STARS: 0
No complaints here. I never bought their cars because they’re shit.
"theloudmouth" (theloudmouth)
10/25/2017 at 16:14, STARS: 0
I think Mitsubishi deserved some of the blame for never updating the X and letting it get stagnant.
"scoob" (scoobsti)
10/25/2017 at 16:16, STARS: 0
Horseshit.
I have never bought new/used, even been in any STI ever, or even any Subaru in general and yet they are all apparently selling like hotcakes.
Therefore I can complain about the lack of an STI hatch, etc.
"themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles" (themanwithsauce)
10/26/2017 at 00:12, STARS: 1
The general revisionist history of the internet is laughable. In the car world, it never ceases to amaze me how hard people will shit on a car when it comes out and then after it gets canned rush to its defense. The eclipse was the butt of EVERY. SINGLE. JOKE. when it was around. Yeah, drag racers liked the blocks and relative cheapness of the platform, but everyone and their uncle took massive shits on the second and third gen eclipse because the average buyer was a broke 20-something with half of an unpainted body kit on an eclipse whose best days were far behind it. Now people act like it’s some hallowed word that needs to be “respected” because god forbid Mitsubishi tries to avoid bankruptcy. And let’s not get into the fact that the 3000GT was a terrible car when new due to costing more than almost every other car in its bracket and being......slower! And heavier! And less reliable! So it now makes a great used buy because it fell so many rungs down the ladder.
Lukewarm take - the eclipse was a shitbox, at least Mitsubishi finally put the name on a car that can take the hate and not be affected.
Warmer take - When I become king of the world, I will put a filter on the internet that says if you judge a car solely by its worth as a used vehicle, you will be assigned to drive nothing but automatic, 4 cylinder, USDM econoboxes for a minimum of 3 years.
"BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires" (biturbo228)
10/26/2017 at 04:16, STARS: 0
From what I understood, yes, but last I looked was prior to the F-Type being released so Lord knows now...
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
10/26/2017 at 08:47, STARS: 0
but i own a 2004 Lancer, i have been buying them
ok maybe i needed to buy more, more often.
"fintail" (fintail)
10/26/2017 at 09:41, STARS: 0
It could be possible, but I have doubts it would be until after the launch of the F-Pace, which likely has huge margins. XJ is so old now that it has to be mostly profit, too (although volumes must be tiny).
"CB" (jrcb)
10/26/2017 at 09:52, STARS: 0
Then I’m sorry for your loss.
"BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires" (biturbo228)
10/26/2017 at 09:55, STARS: 0
Just looked and Jag’s profits are pretty damn healthy at the moment. Took a dip after the F-Pace development (brand new car, low-volume company), but is back on song now :)
"fintail" (fintail)
10/26/2017 at 10:01, STARS: 0
I assume that is JLR - Land Rover no doubt minting money during this new Belle Epoque. They’ve definitely played the SUV/CUV game right.
"BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires" (biturbo228)
10/26/2017 at 10:06, STARS: 1
Ah yes, good point ;) LR will definitely be the breadwinner in that partnership...