by "PS9" (PS9)
Published 10/25/2017 at 09:30
by "PS9" (PS9)
Published 10/25/2017 at 09:30
Tags: no you're bitter
STARS: 11
Just ignore the badging, we’ll get that taken care of once it makes production. Fully hybrid! For those of you worried about the legacy of previous 3000GT models, rest assured that it has been completely destroyed. Speed, power, fun, and all that other stuff you hate has been totally removed, we promise!
"Nibby" (nibby68)
10/25/2017 at 09:34, STARS: 1
when all your wishes are granted many of your dreams will be destroyed
"Wacko" (wacko--)
10/25/2017 at 09:37, STARS: 0
more like
"Wacko" (wacko--)
10/25/2017 at 09:37, STARS: 0
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"Wacko" (wacko--)
10/25/2017 at 09:37, STARS: 0
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"Wacko" (wacko--)
10/25/2017 at 09:37, STARS: 0
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"Wacko" (wacko--)
10/25/2017 at 09:37, STARS: 1
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"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
10/25/2017 at 09:39, STARS: 4
“I hate it when my favorite car manufacturers try to make a profit”
"PS9" (PS9)
10/25/2017 at 09:39, STARS: 0
I think you’ve been kinja’d.
"PS9" (PS9)
10/25/2017 at 09:43, STARS: 7
“I hate it when my favorite car manufacturers try to make a profit abandon everything that makes them relevant and interesting as a maker of cars.”
Fixed.
"Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction" (rustholes-are-weight-reduction)
10/25/2017 at 09:44, STARS: 4
Depends, when Porsche sells Macans and Cayennes to be able to continue the 911, that’s one thing, when your entire line-up becomes crossovers, SUVs, and other terrible things when your line-up included cars like the evo, the eclipse, GT3000, that’s just a sellout
"Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction" (rustholes-are-weight-reduction)
10/25/2017 at 09:45, STARS: 0
While I totally agree, I like my Mitsubishi truck
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
10/25/2017 at 09:47, STARS: 0
Speed, power, fun, and all that other stuff you hate has been totally removed, we promise!
I contest one of those points wholly, one mostly and one pending debate.
As far as the legacy being destroyed, though, yeah...
"PS9" (PS9)
10/25/2017 at 09:50, STARS: 1
I like Mitsubishi Trucks too. I just don’t think ALL Mitsubishis should be trucks. Especially not ones that were sports cars in a previous life.
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
10/25/2017 at 09:54, STARS: 0
This took me a minute, then I remembered that the Eclipse is a crossover, and the “e-volution” concept is too.
Let’s all just be thankful that Fod is at least trying to take Mitsubishis place. All they need to do is out the RS drivetrain into a small two door liftback.
"Wacko" (wacko--)
10/25/2017 at 09:55, STARS: 0
edited the kinja
"PS9" (PS9)
10/25/2017 at 10:02, STARS: 4
Could you imagine if Porsche cancelled the 911 and a few years later revealed a 911 ‘concept’ that was basically an electric Cayenne? ‘The 911 is back, guys!’ would be followed by the complete destruction of Stuttgart.
"404 - User No Longer Available" (toni-cipriani)
10/25/2017 at 10:02, STARS: 0
I think you got your press photos mixed up. This is the correct one.
"Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction" (rustholes-are-weight-reduction)
10/25/2017 at 10:04, STARS: 0
pretty much yeah
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
10/25/2017 at 10:22, STARS: 1
Yes, yes, because sports cars sell!
"AfromanGTO" (afromangto)
10/25/2017 at 11:09, STARS: 0
Oh please tell me the VR package will make it over a hundred grand, and it will set on dealer’s lots for 4 years without anyone even looking at it.
"Viggen" (viggen37)
10/25/2017 at 12:19, STARS: 3
I don’t get this place anymore. Y’all bitch and moan that a manufacturer is dieing because they don’t sell anything interesting. Interesting won’t keep a company afloat. What’s interesting to you is not what the market wants. I get why Mitsubishi gave crossovers the names of the enthusiast beloved cars, hoping to appeal to those in the market, who once were enthusiasts but have responsibilities in that scary reality so many on Oppo try to hide from. The common customer doesn’t give a shit how many titles and podiums a manufacturer has, earned by the homologated variant of a car in the show room. They don’t give a shit that you can swap out the turbo, or give it a better suspension. All they care about is, is what’s the gas mileage, is it safe, and how much is costs! Chevrolet releases the SS, and you bitch about it being too expensive. But that’s not the reason it didn’t sell. It didn’t because no one cares.
"PS9" (PS9)
10/25/2017 at 12:53, STARS: 2
Y’all
This right here’s your problem. It’s not surprising that you ‘don’t get this place anymore’ if you think everyone in it is the same. We are individuals, not a monolith. You have to take each person as they are, and not treat them as a facet of a single hive mind.
Interesting won’t keep a company afloat.
In the pre-alphaneumeric era, Mazda was literally dying and as likely to leave the USDM as Suzuki and Isuzu had done before them. Instead of retreating though, they took a big risk, threw out their entire design language, heavily invested in new technology that is ongoing and set out to become ‘the japanese alpha romeo’ as they said in a few interviews. The result? A successful brand far away from deaths doorstep and no longer in need of assistance from Ford or anyone else. ‘Interest’ not only kept them afloat, it changed their corporate culture and allowed them to transform the brand in the minds of consumers.
People buy things from a brand because they are interested in what that brand has to offer. If a brand loses interest in the minds of too many consumers, it will die.
I get why Mitsubishi gave crossovers the names of the enthusiast beloved cars, hoping to appeal to those in the market, who once were enthusiasts but have responsibilities in that scary reality so many on Oppo try to hide from.
There you go with that again; taking one thing you’ve learned from interacting with a few oppos and applying it to the whole board. There are oppos here who have kids, careers, mortgages, and even millions of dollars and access to supercars (though admittedly, that last one is like one or two guys at best) Responsibilities in meatspace are not some kind of alien proposition to even a quarter of this board, never mind ‘so many’.
Now about mitsu’s plan; The problem here is that your average CUV buyers isn’t going to know about the legacy behind an EVO, a 3000GT, an Eclipse, or whatever have you because they don’t care about sports cars, therefore eliminating the opportunity to leverage a sports car legacy as a marketing ploy. Someone who does know what those things are is going to be repulsed by the reality that their beloved 3000GT/EVO/Eclipse is definitely dead now that it is a CUV and is never coming back. Even if they need a CUV in their life, it’s hard to see why they would choose to lend their support for something that has destroyed what they love. This is why Porsche decided their SUVs and CUVs should just get their own new nomenclature instead of just calling a Cheyenne a ‘911MAX’ or something.
The common customer doesn’t give a shit how many titles and podiums a manufacturer has, earned by the homologated variant of a car in the show room.
True! But this also means they’re not going to know anything about the cars involved in achieving those feats. So how does it make sense to market a new CUV as part of a long lineage of rally winners to people who definitely don’t know what a rally is?
All they care about is, is what’s the gas mileage, is it safe, and how much is costs!
You forgot one; who makes it. That matters a lot. Here’s the grim reality for Mitsu’s current trajectory; if people were willing to walk by Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Chevy and Kia for Mitsu...they’d be doing that. They’re not going to start doing that because they make electric crossovers soon because newsflash; EVERYONE is going to be doing that soon. So what’s going to get consumers to reconsider Mitsu? The legacy of a car from a segment they don’t care about winning a sporting event they don’t watch?
Chevrolet releases the SS, and you bitch about it being too expensive.
When? Oh, right. You heard one oppo do that, and to you that means we’ve all done that. Forgot. Well it’s too bad you don’t have a time machine, because I argued that the SS was priced correctly for what it was around the time of it’s release.
But that’s not the reason it didn’t sell. It didn’t because no one cares.
GM only brought the Commodore to the US as a means of disposing of the few that didn’t sell in australia. They never intended for it to replace the Impala, or beat the Camry; things a RWD manual V8 sedan in 2017 are not going to do regardless of what it costs. It was priced like a luxury item, and sold about as well as a luxury car from a non-luxury marque is going to.
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
10/25/2017 at 13:55, STARS: 2
People buy things from a brand because they are interested in what that brand has to offer.
Tell me more about how people buy Mazdas because of the flawed rotary engine they no longer produce.
There you go with that again; taking one thing you’ve learned from interacting with a few oppos and applying it to the whole board
Oppositelock has ~2700 approved members, yet I bet there are less than 100 regular members. That constitutes “a few.” And yes, this “few” is exactly like that.
In the pre-alphaneumeric era, Mazda was literally dying and as likely to leave the USDM as Suzuki and Isuzu had done before them. Instead of retreating though, they took a big risk, threw out their entire design language, heavily invested in new technology that is ongoing and set out to become ‘the japanese alpha romeo’ as they said in a few interviews. The result? A successful brand far away from deaths doorstep and no longer in need of assistance from Ford or anyone else.
No one cared about the RX. No one cared about the 787B. Mazda partnered with Ford in the 70's because Mazda was going under. Sports cars didn’t save them, the wankel didn’t save them, Ford did.
Now about mitsu’s plan; The problem here is that your average CUV buyers isn’t going to know about the legacy behind an EVO, a 3000GT, an Eclipse, or whatever have you because they don’t care about sports cars, therefore eliminating the opportunity to leverage a sports car legacy as a marketing ploy.
There you go again with the cognitive dissonance. Apparently Mazda is just fine pushing their “GLORIOUS ROTARY” heritage across their lineup of mundane appliances. “ it changed their corporate culture and allowed them to transform the brand in the minds of consumers. ” So what you’re saying is their Group C car that won 1/9 races and their RX lineup which is nonexistent now has resonated with Mazda customers even today, but people won’t even remember Mitsubishi’s heritage which lasted LONGER than Mazda’s??