by "Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
Published 10/24/2017 at 19:28
by "Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
Published 10/24/2017 at 19:28
Tags: LFA
STARS: 5
Ever thought about this? I have. It’s not true.
They’ve made an engine that can rev to the absurd redline in 0.6 of a second. They’ve got 10 pistons jumping up and down hundreds of times a minute. And their engineers are unable to make a little plastic/glass/unobtanium needle move 20cm within 0.6 of a second? As if that’s the biggest engineering challenge on the car.
I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle . The standard tachometer hardware on every other Lexus/Toyota wasn’t able to keep up, they couldn’t be bothered improving or re-engineering it. The digital tach was Lexus cheaping out - on a crazy-overpriced car no less. It was also probably the smart move, so good on them, but the implication that it revs impossibly fast? Rubbish.
These are the things I dwell on
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
10/24/2017 at 19:30, STARS: 0
Hmm, that is a very very good point.
"Doge_Supreme drives a BRZ" (doge-supreme)
10/24/2017 at 19:35, STARS: 1
My guess isn’t that it was because a normal needle couldn’t keep up with the speed, but for long term reliability. There may not be a large amount of force needed to move a needle back and forth, but having it constantly move back and forth may have caused the mechanism to fail over time, and with the speed that the car revs the lifespan may be much shorter than the tach in a lesser car.
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
10/24/2017 at 19:36, STARS: 3
From what I’ve seen of the LFA’s tach, it’s capable of capturing minute variances in revs that analog gauges just can’t capture. I think that was their original intent, and journalists skewed that message a bit.
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"Steve in Manhattan" (blogenfreude01)
10/24/2017 at 19:41, STARS: 0
I recall hearing this when Clarkson drove it ... I bought it, but what what do I know?
"UserNotFound" (jalopnik2)
10/24/2017 at 19:44, STARS: 6
It’s bullshit. Galvanometers are fast as hell and have 1 moving part. They wanted to make a fancy LCD readout.
"Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire" (arch-duke-maxyenko)
10/24/2017 at 19:48, STARS: 9
Also totally bullshit. They just wanted a digital instrument cluster because they wanted a neat customizable multifunction display.
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
10/24/2017 at 19:51, STARS: 0
...And that’s a bad thing becaaaause?
"Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire" (arch-duke-maxyenko)
10/24/2017 at 20:03, STARS: 6
Because they gave a bullshit answer instead of the truth to make themselves seem better than they are? After all, it’s not even a Lexus engine, it’s a Yamaha.
"Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire" (arch-duke-maxyenko)
10/24/2017 at 20:03, STARS: 3
This here.
"atfsgeoff" (atfsgeoff)
10/24/2017 at 20:04, STARS: 0
Why is the car still accelerating during the gear changes?
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
10/24/2017 at 20:08, STARS: 1
it’s a Yamaha.
Guess who controls Yamaha bruh.
It’s a Yamaha/Toyota engine with Toyota block codes. Yamaha Motors co-developed it with Toyota and Yamaha Music tuned the exhaust. I guess it’s more of a glorified pipe organ then...
"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
10/24/2017 at 20:15, STARS: 0
I hope your post will make the values go down.
[Smacks lips]
"Discerning" (discerning2003c5z)
10/24/2017 at 20:19, STARS: 0
Do you know who controls Yamaha? Can you say with certainty what percent of Yamaha stock is owned by Toyota? Do you know how much Toyota stock is owned by Yamaha? Last I checked they each bought a stake in each other.
"Chuckles" (chucklesw37)
10/24/2017 at 20:21, STARS: 4
I think it’s more than just that though. I think what they really wanted was a catchy line that gets repeated so many times at car shows that the line between truth and myth gets blurred. It’s right up there with “they had to stop selling them because they could outrun cop cars!”
"Rock Bottom" (rockbottom81)
10/24/2017 at 20:22, STARS: 1
Gross. Filter that damn tach signal before you feed it to me. I don’t need to see that dirty and unconditioned gimmicky shit.
"Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire" (arch-duke-maxyenko)
10/24/2017 at 20:22, STARS: 2
Yamaha also built this:
It’s a Ford block, but it’s still a Yamaha.
"Decay buys too many beaters" (decay)
10/24/2017 at 20:24, STARS: 2
Motorcycles rev just as fast... most motorcycles, until very recently, had analog tachs
"OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars" (jakeauern)
10/24/2017 at 20:33, STARS: 0
Every time I see a picture of a LFA thats what I think of.
"Levitas" (levitas)
10/24/2017 at 20:51, STARS: 1
You’re 100% correct that this wasn’t the reason, but it was most likely entirely up to the marketing group. Let’s just say that having worked for an OEM, I’ve seen plenty of evidence they tell you what you said when it comes to marketing materials.
"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
10/24/2017 at 21:04, STARS: 1
This is literally every marketing campaign and press release ever.
"dogisbadob" (dogisbadob)
10/24/2017 at 21:13, STARS: 0
my old ES250 I used to have did that shaky thing with the needle too, but it was an analog tach
So maybe the LFA is just a throwback to the original ES250 :p
"feather-throttle-not-hair" (feather-throttle-not-hair)
10/24/2017 at 21:16, STARS: 0
Now i just wanna list Yamaha engines.
Definitely had a yamaha logo on my 3SGTE in my old celica
Also on 2JZs
2ZZGE was a yamaha engine i believe
Whatever V12 is in the OX99-11 obviously....
Anything else other than 2 generations of SHO engine and an LFA?
"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
10/24/2017 at 21:27, STARS: 1
Yamaha also made the V8 in the Volvo XC90.
"Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire" (arch-duke-maxyenko)
10/24/2017 at 21:28, STARS: 2
V8's used by Volvo
The 2.5l V6 in Lexus IS
The Toyota 2000GT used a Yamaha
And the 2UR-GSE
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
10/24/2017 at 22:27, STARS: 0
Thanks for the reinforcement :)
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
10/24/2017 at 22:27, STARS: 0
Same :(
Then I try to get past that because I do like them a lot
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
10/24/2017 at 22:28, STARS: 0
That’s a fantastic argument. This sort of revving is common place on motorbikes - do they all have tachs that can’t keep up?
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
10/24/2017 at 22:28, STARS: 0
About 10k would be nice. I love my MR2 but I’d sell it for an LFA I think
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
10/24/2017 at 22:29, STARS: 1
YES!
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
10/24/2017 at 22:29, STARS: 1
I bought it for about a year until recently. I don’t know what changed in me, but I saw the light
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
10/24/2017 at 22:31, STARS: 0
I think it might have been the journos too. Maybe some engineer made a throw away comment about how their analog gauges were too slow at the time and it became myth
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
10/24/2017 at 22:32, STARS: 0
I’m sure they could make one that lasts though. If a Camry can do half a million kays, surely. And if the pistons are doing it, surely .
But maybe their existing hardware couldn’t take it
"Steve in Manhattan" (blogenfreude01)
10/25/2017 at 01:34, STARS: 0
If a tach shows me 6500 and it’s really 6900, I’d hardly know the difference. Just get me close to a real reading.
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
10/25/2017 at 06:43, STARS: 0
It’s true, but I can see the argument that that doesn’t fly in a car so technically savvy. That’s the sort of thing you expect from a hand-built English car.
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
10/25/2017 at 07:42, STARS: 0
you’re right i’ve never thought about it, or cared
"Doge_Supreme drives a BRZ" (doge-supreme)
10/25/2017 at 11:26, STARS: 0
Yeah but your average Camry will rarely see over 3k RPM.
"feather-throttle-not-hair" (feather-throttle-not-hair)
10/25/2017 at 12:26, STARS: 0
Didn’t know about the V6 or the 2UR-GSE!
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
10/25/2017 at 17:08, STARS: 0
k :(
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
10/25/2017 at 17:09, STARS: 0
But it’ll do just as much shakin’ around to and from 3k RPM. Not as fast, but it does it.
"Steve in Manhattan" (blogenfreude01)
10/25/2017 at 19:36, STARS: 0
Yeah - agreed, for 300K plus you want that level of sophistication.
"UserNotFound" (jalopnik2)
11/02/2017 at 05:23, STARS: 0
Ha, good point.
Still my absolute favorite car in the world.