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Published 10/11/2017 at 13:39
by "R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet" (r-saldana)
Published 10/11/2017 at 13:39
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To repair a broken timing belt on a “2.0T” 08 Passat? Found a really cheap 08 Passat wagon and I am curious how involved a job it would be and what it may wind up costing on top of buying the car.
Excerpt from passatworld.com
I work on VW / Audi’s and that 105k service interval is a joke. 90k miles would really be the max you want to do on one t-belt. 70-80k range is what more people tend to do to be proactive about it and it is usually recommended by people who know these cars, as well as myself (and other members on here ).
The price of a t-belt job at every 75k is worth it compared to what rebuilding the top end of your engine when the t-belt or a tensioning component fails on you costs.
Edit: Figure I should give my opinion on your questions!
1) Whether I should wait till 90k or get it change now.
-You’re basically at 75k; I’d get it done sooner than later. You really are at the time it should be changed for peace of mind. You’ll probably be okay into the 80k range, but it’s better to get it done and not worry about it just because you want to squeeze out another 1k miles.
2) If I should get it changed then which manufacturer Timing Belt to buy. I want to to get the best one out there.
-ECS tuning really does have decent kits to use. They use Continental Contitech timing belts. The other best choice is getting genuine parts from VW. You can never really go wrong with that.
3) Along with the Timing Belt, is there any other associated parts that I should get changed.
Other than just “the t-belt,” you really should replace the waterpump, tensioner roller, t-belt idler rollers, motor mount bolts, all other bolts for the t-belt rollers/tensioner, and you may choose to or not to get the thermostat changed at the same time.
Also as far as maintenance goes changing the fuel pump cam follower and getting your intake valves checked for carbon buildup and cleaned would be good things to consider.
If you have a FSI engine (which I am guessing you do because you are talking about a timing belt change) and haven’t checked or changed the HPFP cam follower, I would suggest looking into that.
The FSI engine is also prone to PCV issues.
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Would likely need a trailer to haul it 250 miles back to Nashville area.
"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
10/11/2017 at 13:46, STARS: 0
You’re likely looking at a head replacement. I’d guess ~$2000ish in parts?
"Baskingshark" (Baskingsharks)
10/11/2017 at 13:55, STARS: 2
I googled to see if it was an interference engine and it looks like it is so there is probably a lot more wrong than a broken belt. You probably have to do a full engine rebuild.
"His Stigness" (HisStigness)
10/11/2017 at 14:07, STARS: 1
The bottom end of VW engines are stupid strong, so I’d be shocked if it required a full re-build. But a valve job is no small feat, nor a cheap one, on an FSI engine.
"His Stigness" (HisStigness)
10/11/2017 at 14:07, STARS: 0
Double that for an FSI.
"His Stigness" (HisStigness)
10/11/2017 at 14:09, STARS: 1
Offer him $500 if you’re willing to store it for a while you gather the necessary parts. You WILL have to pull the head off and do a valve job, and then do a leak check on the pistons.
If they let the timing belt go to its breaking point it will probably need a lot more work like ever coolant hose, filters, etc, so before the valve job, you’re probably looking around $2,000-$3,000 in parts cost, plus the labor and the special tools you’ll need.
"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
10/11/2017 at 14:14, STARS: 0
Damn, really? I was using my memory of TDI numbers.
"BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind" (briangriffinsprius)
10/11/2017 at 14:26, STARS: 1
Probably cheaper (and will give you better peace of mind) to source a replacement engine.
"His Stigness" (HisStigness)
10/11/2017 at 14:33, STARS: 0
Well, it will need a valve job for sure since the timing belt broke, and the gas engine have so much shit in them at that breaks, way more than the TDI’s, so it will cost an arm and a leg.
I just gave up on a MKIV Jetta with the 1.8t, and just the engine parts alone cost me almost $2,000, and that was at my cost. A valve job would have cost $700, and it was still going to need axles and lots of other suspension work.
"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
10/11/2017 at 15:34, STARS: 0
With a TDI, usually timing belt failures call for simply replacing the head, as the force involved is high enough that there’s usually more damage than just replacing the valves, cam, and lifters.
"His Stigness" (HisStigness)
10/11/2017 at 15:58, STARS: 0
Oh yeah I didn’t even think about that. I’ve gotten so used to the fact that my TDI basically looks like a gas motor that I forgot the internals are flipping insane, and the stress they go through is nuts.
Yet, mine is ticking away just nicely =]
