by "BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind" (briangriffinsprius)
Published 10/07/2017 at 18:29
by "BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind" (briangriffinsprius)
Published 10/07/2017 at 18:29
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Why must VW do things different than every other auto maker?? Lug nut studs, really?
"If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent" (essextee)
10/07/2017 at 18:36, STARS: 0
Those are called lug bolts and BMW uses ‘em too.
"gmctavish needs more space" (gmctavish)
10/07/2017 at 18:37, STARS: 2
Not only VW, that’s just an all German cars thing as far as I know. My friend made the good call to switch to studs a while back on his E30,
"ToyotaFamily" (robbav35)
10/07/2017 at 18:38, STARS: 0
I think most German cars use wheel studs. I remember my dad’s old 7 series having them.
"That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
10/07/2017 at 18:47, STARS: 1
Check your tool kit, they usually give you a stud you can thread in to hang the wheel while you put in the other bolts.
"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
10/07/2017 at 18:48, STARS: 0
AFAIK that’s only a Passat or larger thing.
"InFierority Complex" (lanciere)
10/07/2017 at 18:50, STARS: 0
The whole Lancia Beta series uses lug bolts, and atleast with the Monte/Scorpion, no locator pin. At least they have the excuse of being designed in the early 70s.
"BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind" (briangriffinsprius)
10/07/2017 at 18:52, STARS: 1
Now I know! I just found it so strange...
"Dave the car guy , still here" (a3dave)
10/07/2017 at 18:52, STARS: 4
From working in domestic shops but owning several German cars they can save you having a wheel come free. Lug nuts if not tightened seem to spin off and then you suddenly drop a wheel on a curve or at speed. On the lug bolt cars they make a good amount of noise before they can work their way out so you are alerted to the loose wheel. Had one wheel loosen due to what we figured was a tar covered pebble on hub face of wheel from it laying in drive during a brake job. The noisy wheel let us know. The rock had partially crushed and several bolts were loose. We cleaned and tightened things again and all was good.
"Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
10/07/2017 at 18:54, STARS: 1
My brother’s Saab has those. Fortunately, there’s a raised ring in the center of the hub to help hold it while rotating the wheel to line up the holes. For some reason there’s also a locator pin between two of the bolt-holes.
I hear that if you don’t like them, you can get studs and threadlock them in place, using regular lug nuts to retain the wheel.
"Berang" (berang)
10/07/2017 at 18:56, STARS: 0
My SAAB is the same way. Total POS to get the wheels on (steel wheels are a lot easier to get on than alloys).
"duurtlang" (duurtlang)
10/07/2017 at 19:14, STARS: 1
I’ve always had cars with these. Not just German cars. When I bought something Japanese I was surprised it had lug nuts.
Right now, of the 5 cars I currently own 1 is a German car and zero have lug nuts.
"Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection" (itsalwayssteve)
10/07/2017 at 19:48, STARS: 0
It’s pretty standard for European cars. Meepster has them too but it has a hub ring to hang the wheel.
"TheTurbochargedSquirrel" (thatsquirrel)
10/07/2017 at 20:11, STARS: 1
I hate the lug studs on my Mini with a passion.
"LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com" (limitedtimeonly)
10/07/2017 at 20:42, STARS: 1
They did not provide a wheel hanger on my 2016 GTI, but they are available on line for less than $10 , and worth it given that I change my wheels twice every month for autocross.
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
10/07/2017 at 21:05, STARS: 0
It makes doing brakes a lot easier
"merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc" (merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc)
10/07/2017 at 21:10, STARS: 0
The current Chrysler 200 uses them too.
"BaconSandwich is tasty." (baconsandwich)
10/07/2017 at 21:37, STARS: 0
How so?
"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
10/07/2017 at 21:52, STARS: 0
That’s a European thing. My BMWs and FIAT both had them.
"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
10/07/2017 at 22:05, STARS: 2
Well it is Italian....
"Probenja" (probenja)
10/07/2017 at 22:15, STARS: 0
French cars also have them, honestly it’s not too bad compared to traditional lug nuts.
"ThePenguin" (ThatOtherGuy7)
10/07/2017 at 22:42, STARS: 0
All the European makes do this, as well as some Dodge and Chrysler products due to fiat bases.
"Dogsatemypants" (kb113400)
10/07/2017 at 22:46, STARS: 0
Volvos and newer jeeps have them too...
The more you know, the more you begin to understand just how dumb you really are.
"gmctavish needs more space" (gmctavish)
10/07/2017 at 22:47, STARS: 1
Must be the Fiat influence....
But really, that’s surprising and weird
"Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
10/08/2017 at 02:39, STARS: 1
Try a Vanagon for fun. Lug bolts on one axle, lug nuts on the other - weirdness.
Having owned German cars almost exclusively over the last 30+ years, finding studs on the Mazda was a very pleasant change of pace.
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
10/08/2017 at 11:56, STARS: 0
You don’t have to take the caliper or mounting bracket off to get the disc off. The disc just slides out.
"Dave the car guy , still here" (a3dave)
10/08/2017 at 15:29, STARS: 0
Forgot to say there is a wheel hanger stud in with jack that is plastic but you should buy an aluminum or steel one. I have an aluminum one and a 100mm bolt with same 14mm x 1.5 thread to use when changing to snow tires. There are various hangers available from about $9 to $20. The bolt I bought somewhere for about $4.
The bolt is decent too as you can hold the wheel partially into place and thread the bolt in a few threads by hand, slide the wheel onto the hub and then proceed to install 4 of the lug bolts. I cut a slight V into the long bolt threads so it acts also as a non-aggressive tap and can be used to clean things if the hub holes have any rust.
"merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc" (merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc)
10/08/2017 at 20:58, STARS: 1
Not sure which brakes you’ve worked on that have enough slop in the mounting bracket to allow the rotors off without pulling the bracket? 3 audis, and a newer style beetle that I’ve worked on, would all beg to differ.
"theloudmouth" (theloudmouth)
10/08/2017 at 21:36, STARS: 0
I like a lot of what the Germans do, but this truly drives me bat shit insane whenever I put on my winters or summers on twice a year.
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
10/09/2017 at 07:43, STARS: 0
maybe? i dont remember having to do it for the allroad