by "Berang" (berang)
Published 09/23/2017 at 17:02
by "Berang" (berang)
Published 09/23/2017 at 17:02
No Tags
STARS: 3
Aircraft engineers came up with that.
PS: here’s one of the bolt in ball joints:
This is actually a pretty clever idea, way less of a PITA than pressed in joints.
"punkgoose17" (punkgoose17)
09/23/2017 at 17:07, STARS: 0
The tooling for this would be very cheap and simple. Also, this would be much faster to fabricate then tube steel A-arms.
"If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent" (essextee)
09/23/2017 at 17:08, STARS: 7
That’s certainly A-shaped
"punkgoose17" (punkgoose17)
09/23/2017 at 17:09, STARS: 0
I am just guessing how and why they ended up making this.
"cbell04" (cbell04)
09/23/2017 at 17:23, STARS: 0
1969 Saab Ox Cart?
"Birddog" (maintmgt)
09/23/2017 at 17:42, STARS: 3
It literally looks like something someone built in a shed.
"C62030" (c62030)
09/23/2017 at 17:53, STARS: 0
I’m not seeing the arms.
"Steve in Manhattan" (blogenfreude01)
09/23/2017 at 17:54, STARS: 1
My thoughts exactly ... and it seems to be made of various metals, more or less ....
"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
09/23/2017 at 18:04, STARS: 0
That was the year of the Scania merger.
Might explain it.
Interestingly, we call them wishbones in English.
"Berang" (berang)
09/23/2017 at 18:19, STARS: 0
So far as I know, they’re all like that. The rally cars had a plate welded across the tops of the arms for more strength, but that was it.
"Berang" (berang)
09/23/2017 at 18:23, STARS: 1
I wouldn’t be surprised if the ones in the prototype were any less sophisticated. It probably worked in that, so why not in the production version?
"Birddog" (maintmgt)
09/23/2017 at 18:26, STARS: 0
It worked. Why complicate things?
"gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
09/23/2017 at 21:03, STARS: 0
By coincidence, I was just trying to figure out how to approach the bolt-in ball joints in the Niva. Debating simply leaving them, TBH. I ordered new ones this week because an attempt to remove one earlier this year for another reason resulted in three broken bolts, one replacement, and two bolts held in by anti-gravity and/or rust.
Healthy dose of PB on the upper. Shiney new shock in the background, old ones needed cut out. But the “C” with the three nuts on top is part of the a-arm, a cast chunk only a bit less spindly than yours. The bolts feed through from underneath, with the ball joint sitting under the a-arm. In the case of the broken off bolts, no power in the ‘verse could budge them out of their seats, and driving on them for like, 7000km or something stupid didn’t do anything either. Pretty sure they’re now one with the a-arm.
At least with the Saab design you’d break them off and then still be able to pop the old one out...
"If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent" (essextee)
09/23/2017 at 21:05, STARS: 0
"gmporschenut also a fan of hondas" (gmporschenut)
09/23/2017 at 23:12, STARS: 0
something something from airplanes?
"Berang" (berang)
09/24/2017 at 02:11, STARS: 0
go crazy from airplanes
"Berang" (berang)
09/24/2017 at 03:04, STARS: 0
that is a silly design.
"gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
09/24/2017 at 11:28, STARS: 0
It’s loosely inherited from Fiat.
And it looks like it economises materials pretty well. But I don’t imagine the original Fiat stuff would hang onto the bolts so effectively.