Just Another Reason to Not Trust Auto Internet Prices

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Published 09/15/2017 at 10:03

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I’m looking to replace my truck with a newer, slightly used Ram 1500. Came across this one at a local dealership and was shocked how low the price was. So I had a 2 simple questions to the dealership.

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I figured it had a few thousand in discounts applied that I wouldn’t qualify for (employee price, military discount, etc). So I just wanted to know would it cost me $2,000 more, or $8,000 more than what it is listed on their website so I know if it’s worth my time or not. Below was the response I received

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$11,000 more than what it is listed for on their website. Never mind the discounts, just the extras that they put on the truck from Mopar were 11k and not added in the price listed. I’ll stick to buying used since those don’t have 12 discounts applied to the price for which 3 I would qualify for, if that.

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Replies (53)

Kinja'd!!! "NunchuckWoolery" (strocker5)
09/15/2017 at 10:14, STARS: 1

These guys have terrible commercials, that doesn’t surprise me.

Kinja'd!!! "Bryan doesn't drive a 1M" (bryantakespictures)
09/15/2017 at 10:16, STARS: 1

Assholes.

Kinja'd!!! "Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
09/15/2017 at 10:16, STARS: 7

I’m kinda shocked someone came clean with you about the markups by email. I would have expected them to hide that to get you in and then hard sell you. So, I’d say you won here. Smart to have contacted them first.

Kinja'd!!! "pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
09/15/2017 at 10:19, STARS: 0

tell them they’re dreaming!

Kinja'd!!! "Mergio Sarchionne" (mergios)
09/15/2017 at 10:23, STARS: 8

You should buy it regardless. This sweater I’m wearing is getting kinda threadbare.

I will soon need more money for a new one.

Kinja'd!!! "adamftw" (adamftw)
09/15/2017 at 10:24, STARS: 1

Good bot.

Kinja'd!!! "benjrblant" (benjblant)
09/15/2017 at 10:24, STARS: 3

Can I just buy you a sweater and we deduct it from the cost of the truck?

Kinja'd!!! "Mergio Sarchionne" (mergios)
09/15/2017 at 10:26, STARS: 1

beep boop. All accountants are robots deep down.

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
09/15/2017 at 10:26, STARS: 0

I remember many years ago leasing a new Ram 1500, and the dealer said they match offers from other dealers, EXCEPT for Szott

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
09/15/2017 at 10:27, STARS: 2

I was surprised as well. Thought for sure I’d get am email back saying “well just come in and we can review the price breakdown” or some other BS.

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
09/15/2017 at 10:28, STARS: 0

I want to reply to them, but don’t want to deal with the back and forth crap that would follow.

Kinja'd!!! "Mergio Sarchionne" (mergios)
09/15/2017 at 10:28, STARS: 2

They only come in cases of 50.

https://www.rosewholesale.com/cheap/bulk-sweaters-for-sale/

Kinja'd!!! "pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
09/15/2017 at 10:28, STARS: 0

fair enough

Kinja'd!!! "Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
09/15/2017 at 10:31, STARS: 0

I feel strange saying this, but if you decide to buy new, maybe you should consider giving this dealer a chance for this reason? At least if you can find out who you dealt with.

Kinja'd!!! "NunchuckWoolery" (strocker5)
09/15/2017 at 10:33, STARS: 1

I believe it, I work for one of the Chevrolet dealers here around Detroit and there’s certain stores we know put out bullshit advertising as well.

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
09/15/2017 at 10:36, STARS: 1

I thought about it, but I’m trying to keep the budget towards 30k for the price. And knowing that I won’t get all the discounts that apply towards a new Ram, I’d rather save the 5-10k and buy a 1 year old truck with low miles. I did that last year with my 2015 GMC Sierra, saved a bunch, but I’ve had so many issues with it in the past year I have no confidence that it’ll last to 100k miles.

Kinja'd!!! "2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered" (2fast2furiousfc3s)
09/15/2017 at 10:39, STARS: 3

Tell fact that they modified a car AND didn’t mention it on the website is appalling. Can’t believe this is a practice

Kinja'd!!! "Haase" (brianhaase)
09/15/2017 at 10:40, STARS: 1

If you’re in the market for a lifted RAM truck, I highly recommend Sherry4x4. They work closely with Rocky Ridge Trucks and all of the accessories and parts are covered under warranty.

Their website is very nice and their pricing includes both the modifications as well as all available rebates and incentives. You may not qualify for all of them, but they don’t try to hide anything like Szott.

Kinja'd!!! "Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
09/15/2017 at 10:40, STARS: 0

Makes sense.

On the face of it, I’m surprised to hear of issues from a fairly new GMC. I’d have expected it to be solid. Sorry to hear.

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
09/15/2017 at 10:47, STARS: 3

Craigslist ads have more details than majority of dealership ads I’ve seen.

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
09/15/2017 at 10:50, STARS: 2

Not to worry, my friends who are GM engineers heard an earful from over it. Trans rebuilt at 40k miles, new rear diff at 51k miles, those are the biggest ones. Had bad shifting and clunking lots of times. My previous job was working 3 years at Chrysler in powertrain calibration, putting more miles on test vehicles than any other department to find and fix drivability issues directly related to calibration. Because of this, I’m overly critical with any vehicle I get into today and immediately start assessing how it drives.

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
09/15/2017 at 10:51, STARS: 0

Wow I was not aware of this company, thanks for the link!!

Kinja'd!!! "Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
09/15/2017 at 10:51, STARS: 0

Almost sounds like a lemon issue.

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
09/15/2017 at 10:53, STARS: 1

As my buddy who works at GM said “sounds like your truck was built on a holiday” lol.

Here’s some more details on the issues I’ve had

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/do-not-ignore-vibration-from-your-brakes-1798316090

Kinja'd!!! "benjrblant" (benjblant)
09/15/2017 at 11:05, STARS: 2

At that point, why even bother posting a price? Clearly all of these numbers are arbitrary and don’t actually reflect the value/cost of the vehicle.

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
09/15/2017 at 11:07, STARS: 0

Oh you wanted the doors to come with the truck that are shown in the picture, yeah thats an extra $2200 as well.

Kinja'd!!! "benjrblant" (benjblant)
09/15/2017 at 11:10, STARS: 2

And you know the markup on those dealer-installed packages is insane. Case in point:

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/6-000-wheels-1000-tires-800-grille-400-1792895373

Kinja'd!!! "Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
09/15/2017 at 11:26, STARS: 0

LOL.

Kinja'd!!! "Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
09/15/2017 at 11:32, STARS: 2

I remember that. I missed how brian seemed to have a hard on to prove you incompetent.

Kinja'd!!! "My bird IS the word" (mybirdistheword)
09/15/2017 at 11:48, STARS: 5

You do realize you just possibly screwed yourself? That is a false advertisement case if I have ever seen one.

Provided you apply for the discounts (which, holy shit 15 grand in discounts?) they have to sell you the truck for that price, as the mods are pictured in the ad.

Kinja'd!!! "Haase" (brianhaase)
09/15/2017 at 13:34, STARS: 0

No problem!

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
09/15/2017 at 13:38, STARS: 1

Corrosion without function loss vs Corrosion with function loss - very different scenarios

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
09/15/2017 at 14:08, STARS: 0

I definitely realize it, but it’s a matter of do I want to go through all the hassle and BS of dealing with them. This dealer is notorious for prices that are so low and no other dealers being able to explain how they can even advertise the numbers.

Kinja'd!!! "My bird IS the word" (mybirdistheword)
09/15/2017 at 14:25, STARS: 1

I can think of a way:

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Kinja'd!!! "haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
10/31/2017 at 09:41, STARS: 1

Just ran across this post and was curious — they now have it listed at a discounted price of $42,995.

Kinja'd!!! "Nibby" (nibby68)
10/31/2017 at 10:10, STARS: 1

super late but i bought exactly 2 years ago today a 2015 ram 1500 quad cab, 4WD, hemi. black express edition. MSRP was nearly $42,000 but i got it down to $33K

so maybe try shopping for 2017s right now

Kinja'd!!! "PS9" (PS9)
10/31/2017 at 11:16, STARS: 0

That sounds like a pain in the ass, even if it might come with $11k in free mods. Goddamn, why can’t they just tell us what they want to charge and we’ll pay that if we can and if we want the product.

Kinja'd!!! "KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
10/31/2017 at 12:02, STARS: 1

The truck is only $1*, Today Only!

* Doors, engine, interior, air conditioning, heater, seatbelts, steering wheel, gas tank, and pretty much everything else is an optional extra.

Kinja'd!!! "My bird IS the word" (mybirdistheword)
10/31/2017 at 12:14, STARS: 0

Well you go in there and threaten. I get that whole “eye for an eye” thing but some times fuck em.

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
10/31/2017 at 12:19, STARS: 0

Funny how the prices changes based on the day of the week

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
10/31/2017 at 12:19, STARS: 0

Very Porsche of them

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
10/31/2017 at 12:21, STARS: 1

I have seen the Big Horn’s going very cheap. Coworkers dad has a 2014 Ram 2500 diesel with only 22k miles on it that I’m interested in. More I think about it the more I want a truck I can drive for 10 years, 200k miles

Kinja'd!!! "Nixon" (nixon24)
10/31/2017 at 12:36, STARS: 0

No joke, my most recent Porsche had a upcharge of $500 for the gold Porsche hubcaps instead of the black one and a $1,000 upcharge for the “extended range” gas tank.

But they have the best rated manufacturer warranty hands down

Kinja'd!!! "Nibby" (nibby68)
10/31/2017 at 12:37, STARS: 0

oh if you can get that for less than a new 1500 then go for it!

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
10/31/2017 at 12:40, STARS: 0

Not less than a new ram 1500, but close. Said he’ll settle for 41k, which is still about 15k less than a new ram 2500 diesel

Kinja'd!!! "Nibby" (nibby68)
10/31/2017 at 12:42, STARS: 0

wowie, NP! do it then

Kinja'd!!! "Saracen" (manualdoucheelitist)
10/31/2017 at 14:03, STARS: 1

11k for a lift, and wheels & tires?!

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
11/01/2017 at 08:05, STARS: 1

Well that also includes the TruCoat. You’re going to want that TruCoating for those winters

Kinja'd!!! "Future next gen S2000 owner" (future-next-gen-s2000-owner)
11/01/2017 at 19:07, STARS: 0

I’ve been looking at diesel. I’m so confused as to why they are so expensive. Used ones are crazy.

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
11/02/2017 at 07:47, STARS: 0

The diesel engine itself is more expensive to build, has more emissions equipment than a regular gasoline engine. Add to that charge air cooler, extra plumbing, costs can go up pretty quickly. In cases like heavy duty trucks, part of the cost is the upgraded transmission to handle the high torque output. But damn they do hold their values well, annoyingly well.

Kinja'd!!! "Future next gen S2000 owner" (future-next-gen-s2000-owner)
11/02/2017 at 10:24, STARS: 1

...they do hold their values well, annoyingly well.

I was more surprised by this than anything. I was amazed at how mast you can build a 50K diesel truck and have almost no options. I get the higher costs, but the margins must be incredible on them.

Kinja'd!!! "450X_FTW" (mistermic)
11/02/2017 at 12:17, STARS: 1

I’ve been shopping around, it’s difficult to find a decently equipped Ram 2500 diesel with under 100k miles, for under $40k

Kinja'd!!! "Future next gen S2000 owner" (future-next-gen-s2000-owner)
11/02/2017 at 13:07, STARS: 1

Exactly. I’m not willing to finance a vehicle with 100K miles on it and I don’t have 40K lying around.