by "LJ909" (lj909)
Published 09/12/2017 at 12:38
by "LJ909" (lj909)
Published 09/12/2017 at 12:38
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And I know I shouldnt what with the shitty reliability, which is kind of spotty weirdly. Some places you’ll see things where people have had little to no problems, others people have had a myriad of problems. And with how cheap they get because of that sweet sweet depreciation they are hard to ignore. I just think they are a great family car. And watching Harry’s Garage for some reason makes me want one more.
Do you guys like them? Im looking at some online that I might go check out later. What problems do they have mainly?
"JR1" (type35bugatti)
09/12/2017 at 12:43, STARS: 1
Not sure on problems but I would think the experience wouldn’t be that different than what Doug had with his RR.
Like you though I think they are great looking vehicles and would probably be a joy to own except for when the time comes and it needs to go to the shop.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
09/12/2017 at 12:43, STARS: 1
I always felt like the RRS was just an LR4 stuffed into a smaller suit. I don’t dislike them, but why not just get an LR4?
"djmt1" (djmt1)
09/12/2017 at 12:44, STARS: 0
I used to hate them but then I found out that they’re Discovery 3s underneath and for reasons I don’t understand they became my favourite Land Rover. I would love to have one with the supercharged 4.2.
"benjrblant" (benjblant)
09/12/2017 at 12:46, STARS: 0
The first gen RRS is built on the Discovery/LR3 chassis, so you’re pretty close.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 12:47, STARS: 1
Like you though I think they are great looking vehicles and would probably be a joy to own except for when the time comes and it needs to go to the shop.
Which is why I want to try to find one that was actually taken care of by the previous owner(s). But this is one of those “ball on a budget” cars that get sold a lot at buy here pay here places. So high mileage ones that were just beaten to shit are plentiful sadly.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
09/12/2017 at 12:49, STARS: 1
Thats what I mean, its got all the lard of the LR3/4 but non of the space, the interiors aren’t actually that roomy for their size. Plus that dash higher than the windscreen thing always bugged me.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 12:51, STARS: 0
Thats a good point. But Ive never really cared for how the LR4 looked or drove. Its a little too top heavy for me.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 12:51, STARS: 0
Those are exactly the ones I’ve been looking for.
"Nibby" (nibby68)
09/12/2017 at 12:54, STARS: 1
Always hated the RRS cause I felt like it compromised too much for what it is. There’s nothing sporty about it and it’s just a smaller RR with less features. If you’re buying a Range Rover go for the fancy Ford Explorer or LR4 or bust.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
09/12/2017 at 12:58, STARS: 0
I don’t like the Sport. Merely for losing that great split tail gate.
"boxrocket" (boxrocket)
09/12/2017 at 13:00, STARS: 1
CaaaaaarrrrrMaaaaaaxxxxxxxx.
DeMuro-approved!
Just get a low deductible on their warranty.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 13:01, STARS: 0
Yea thats pretty much always been a RR design element. But Im used to a hatch so its ok.
"TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
09/12/2017 at 13:02, STARS: 1
Pretty much similar issues to the Discovery 3 as they share the same platform, look for an ‘08 and up so you get the stronger rear diff.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 13:02, STARS: 0
I dont know why this didnt even cross my mind. The only sucky part is that for that Carmax quality, Ill be dealer with prices higher then literally everywhere else, even namebrand dealers that got some in on trade.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
09/12/2017 at 13:02, STARS: 0
But is the reliability that bad anymore? I mean on the newer models.
I think Land Rovers are nice and all, and I see a lot of them around. I just have never understood their special appeal over other luxury SUVs with similar specs. Can somebody explain to me?
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 13:04, STARS: 1
Yea I was looking for 11 and up but 08 would be the lowest I would go. Its crazy you can get an 06 for under 10 grand if you look hard enough and can deal with high ass miles.
"Tripper" (tripe46)
09/12/2017 at 13:04, STARS: 1
Me too!! Honestly, it might be my “dad” car when that day comes. I’ll be grabbing an aftermarket warranty from Zurich (or someone), obviously.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 13:06, STARS: 1
I dont think the relibility is bad anymore on the newer models. At the same time though it could be we havent heard anything yet since a lot of the new models are still on 1st and second owners or are under warranty still.
The appeal to me though is the British-ness of the things. They are unique in that and have quirks a lot of the time that you can deal with if you feel like it. Its a weird attraction I know.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
09/12/2017 at 13:06, STARS: 2
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"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 13:07, STARS: 0
Thats why I want it. Its a dad car and I only have one.
"BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo" (bluemazda2)
09/12/2017 at 13:09, STARS: 0
My favorite Range Rover ever made is the 2012 Range Rover Sport HSE in Bournville Metallic with these wheels.
A close second to the Sport Supercharged in Marmaris Teal with these wheels.
"adamftw" (adamftw)
09/12/2017 at 13:10, STARS: 1
They are pretty reliable for LRs. Based on the LR3.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
09/12/2017 at 13:13, STARS: 1
Oh, I don’t think it’s weird. They are very popular, after all. I guess I have to experience one to understand. They are unique, and that always appeals to an enthusiast.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 13:14, STARS: 1
You mean like this one?
And Ive never seen one in that Teal color. I like it.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 13:15, STARS: 0
More reliable than the standard RR?
"adamftw" (adamftw)
09/12/2017 at 13:17, STARS: 1
Older L322s? Yea, I’d say so. But like with every LR, it’s all about the previous owners’ maintenance.
"BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo" (bluemazda2)
09/12/2017 at 13:17, STARS: 1
Yes, exactly like that one.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to sell my kidney. I’m pretty sure I only need one for now.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 13:26, STARS: 1
With how cheap these things are a lot of places, you dont need to sell a kidney. You can go sell plasma.
"ZHP Sparky, the 5th" (e30s2k)
09/12/2017 at 13:29, STARS: 1
I love these. Understand they’re an unnecessary sacrifice of utility for the sake of style..i.e you could have a more usable LR3, that is the same car. But this thing looks so much better – and to me, it has more than the space I could ever need. And given the depreciation if a nice example comes up at a good price with a warranty (CarMax or something like that) I’d consider it. But then again resale is going to be horrendous – so either gotta budget that in and be OK with it, or plan to keep it forever…which is a daunting prospect.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 13:32, STARS: 0
But then again resale is going to be horrendous – so either gotta budget that in and be OK with it, or plan to keep it forever…which is a daunting prospect.
THIS. The only major stumbling block for me.
"ZHP Sparky, the 5th" (e30s2k)
09/12/2017 at 13:40, STARS: 1
Rich person response: What, I took a $50k depreciation hit on that thing. You can’t handle 10? PLEBE! Style doesn’t come for free!
"fintail" (fintail)
09/12/2017 at 13:43, STARS: 0
My hesitation with these isn’t the vehicle, it’s the drivers.
"WiscoProud" (wiscoproud)
09/12/2017 at 13:54, STARS: 2
I had an LR3 and honestly loved it. I did dump thousands into it repairing things that in my opinion should not go bad, but it was still the most comfortable highway vehicle I’ve ever owned, and very capable off road and in blizzards. I honestly can’t stop myself from looking at them and the LR4s. Its a sickness.
"WiscoProud" (wiscoproud)
09/12/2017 at 13:55, STARS: 1
I would get one based on the LR4 platform. The LR3 was a huge jump in reliability from the Disco 2, and the LR4 was another jump from the LR3.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 14:05, STARS: 0
I’ve never known RR drivers to be douchebags.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 14:06, STARS: 0
Its like a drug. You know you shouldnt because it can fuck you up but you do it anyway. What went wrong though?
"WiscoProud" (wiscoproud)
09/12/2017 at 14:59, STARS: 1
Normal things, $1,000 brake jobs, replace wiring harness due to plugged sunroof vent, bad seal on front diff making me replace it (you can just fix the seal now), bushings all going bad at 100k, Bad battery making you think the world is going to end, and I think my compressor was starting to fail when I sold it.
"fintail" (fintail)
09/12/2017 at 15:01, STARS: 1
Come to Seattle :)
"AMGtech - now with more recalls!" (amgtech)
09/12/2017 at 15:38, STARS: 0
I’ve stupidly been looking at these, LR3's, and older ones, like D2's and P38's. Used to have a P38 and it was freaking awesome, but I just couldn’t trust it.
But carrying my bike on the E55 isn’t fun. Switching cars with the wife isn’t fun. Can’t take the 55 on forest service roads. Blah.
Maybe the solution is to lift the 55 and put AT’s on it and build some skid plates!
"jonny11quest" (jonny11quest)
09/12/2017 at 15:54, STARS: 1
Significant other wants a second gen. Seems reliable enough. I think I can find 2nd gens with coil suspension vs air (if not I’m converting). Throw some smaller dia wheels, take it off road every once in a while, be able to buy a beater and tow it home. That’s my plan anyway.
"Spasoje" (Spasoje)
09/12/2017 at 16:00, STARS: 1
One of the main car mags has a RR Diesel as a long-termer. Buggy electronics (like the all-LCD instrument cluster just turning itself off at 80mph) are still the order of the day. They’re better than the older models, but are still far from cured.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 16:16, STARS: 0
Damn. The grand for a brake job is bad enough.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 16:19, STARS: 0
P38's? Damn. You want the 90's drug dealers edition. Thats going way back.
You coud get one of these and keep the E55. Or better yet get an Allroad.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 16:20, STARS: 1
DO IT.
"WiscoProud" (wiscoproud)
09/12/2017 at 16:22, STARS: 0
Partly that was Chicago pricing, and me not having a garage. From what I understand its a relatively simple job, but I was living in a condo and had no where to do it. Each time I did it, they replaced the rotors as well, which still seems odd to me, I can’t believe rotors have the same life as pads, but it seems common on these.
"AMGtech - now with more recalls!" (amgtech)
09/12/2017 at 16:33, STARS: 1
Lol yeah but mine had black steelies with AT’s and a 2" lift on coils.
You shut your mouth. Owning an Audi would be blasphemous. And they’re less trustworthy than a P38. I have no intentions of getting rid of the 55, unless someone wants to give me a stupid amount of money for it.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 16:48, STARS: 0
Or wherever you took it they were bullshitting you. I would expect to pay a grand on a Cayenne Turbo. Not this.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 16:50, STARS: 0
Yea I would never get rid of the 55 either. But I meant a recent gen A4 Allroad. Not the disaster about to happen first gen.
"WiscoProud" (wiscoproud)
09/12/2017 at 17:15, STARS: 1
First time was a dealership, the others were at indys. Mind you I had a 2006 back in 2008-2012. Parts prices and availability are much better now. Currently you can get a full brake kit from Atlantic British for $390. Give a few hours to a shop, with shop mark-up on prices and you’re pretty easily looking at $800+. I just didn’t have anywhere to do it, so I was stuck. Not to mention OEM was about the only source of the parts for a while there.
"AMGtech - now with more recalls!" (amgtech)
09/12/2017 at 18:38, STARS: 1
Still blasphemy! I can’t get discounts on those, don’t have any tools or support to work on them. If I wanted a newer car based soft roader I would get a GLC.
"LJ909" (lj909)
09/12/2017 at 19:04, STARS: 1
Damn you have a point. We have a family mechanic that if I gave him a coke would knock a few hundred off the price.
"boxrocket" (boxrocket)
09/12/2017 at 19:31, STARS: 1
True, but you get a car that has already been through CarMax’s inspection and refurbishment, so it means it made financial sense to put it through that effort AND offer warranties for it. Few of the first-gen RRS are even CPO-worthy anymore, so JLR dealers aren’t going to put much stock behind them, if any at all.