by "f86sabre" (f86sabre)
Published 09/08/2017 at 21:04
by "f86sabre" (f86sabre)
Published 09/08/2017 at 21:04
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Even with the change in projected track they are forecasting winds over 100 mph in Miami for over 14 hours.
"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
09/08/2017 at 21:12, STARS: 1
The storm is going west of Miami...what if it destroys Homestead? o_o
"someassemblyrequired" (someassemblyrequired)
09/08/2017 at 21:18, STARS: 2
Saw some pictures of AA counters at MIA before they closed up shop tonight. They had blue tarped all the check in desks. They don’t seem optimistic.
"Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever" (rustanddust)
09/08/2017 at 21:27, STARS: 1
Oppo architects and structural engineers especially:
When buildings are rated for this type of wind, does duration have an impact? Are wind ratings for gusts, or sustained? I’ve seen a couple weaker hurricanes and a number of tropical storms, but the idea of 14 hours of 100mph wind, not to mention the associated debris, is kinda scary.
"f86sabre" (f86sabre)
09/08/2017 at 22:23, STARS: 2
This doesn’t fully answer the question, but it is interesting.
"gmporschenut also a fan of hondas" (gmporschenut)
09/09/2017 at 00:51, STARS: 1
(Mechie, not a civil engineer)
These buildings should be fine with upgraded building codes, but the duration is going to push a limit i would not be comfortable with. They’ll definitly be a shit load of inspections afterwards.
The bigger concern many have had are the giant cranes that can’t be removed from those under construction.
http://www.miamiherald.com/real-estate/article168905202.html
https://www.slideshare.net/ssuser5172c0/vikas-patre
"SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media" (silentbutnotreallydeadly)
09/09/2017 at 07:02, STARS: 1
Somereassemblymayberequired?
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
09/09/2017 at 08:21, STARS: 0
“fun”
"f86sabre" (f86sabre)
09/09/2017 at 08:31, STARS: 0
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"John Norris (AngryDrifter)" (angrydrifter)
09/09/2017 at 09:40, STARS: 2
(not a architect or structural engineer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once)
There are two kinds of structure failures, static failure and fatigue failure. You can imagine it is pretty hard to just pull apart a paper clip by pulling real hard, verses bending it back and forth until it snaps. The first is static the second is fatigue. One big gust blowing apart a building would be static, the building bending back and forth and then failing would be fatigue. Different materials have different properties for fatigue failure and I expect a building to be very different then a paper clip. But none-the-less 12 or 24 hours of high winds would undoubtedly bend and wear out some materials or fasteners so I’m sure the structures would fail at a lower wind speed over a long period of time than they could stand under one big gust.
"Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever" (rustanddust)
09/09/2017 at 10:06, STARS: 1
That’s a good point as well. I remember a high-rise crane getting picked off a roof in NYC a couple years ago by a 70mph gust, if memory serves correct.