by "Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
Published 09/05/2017 at 15:33
by "Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
Published 09/05/2017 at 15:33
Tags: Volvo
STARS: 2
Volvo truck with sticky-out front. The Americans like them, the rest of us not so much.
"415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)" (415s30)
09/05/2017 at 15:40, STARS: 0
I like forward control cab overs, I want a diesel Delica with an off road pacakge so badly.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
09/05/2017 at 15:41, STARS: 0
Well, we Americans and the Oz folk, at least.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
09/05/2017 at 15:42, STARS: 0
When I was in Russia I saw a lot of American style trucks there. Probably for the same reason I saw some RHD Japanese cars, they just import used ones from the US.
"BigBlock440" (440-4bbl)
09/05/2017 at 15:49, STARS: 1
And the Russians. And everywhere there isn’t a length restriction.
"not for canada - australian in disguise" (for-canada)
09/05/2017 at 15:49, STARS: 4
the rest of us not so much.
Australians would like to have a word with you.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
09/05/2017 at 15:50, STARS: 2
Or for the same reasons as long cab popularity in the US and Australia - minimal limits on parking requiring shorter cabs, better ride, better cooling and engine size possibilities, advantages in cab space for long hauls, quick service advantages, and long wheelbase keeping really major loads tractable.
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
09/05/2017 at 15:55, STARS: 0
We like crumple zones.
"Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street." (demon-xanth)
09/05/2017 at 16:01, STARS: 3
Long nose trucks rule in the US due to bridge law, the laws that govern weight distribution. A longer wheelbase is better. In Europe the tight streets are more limiting. Thus even the trailers themselves are setup differently.
Europe:
US/AU:
"Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street." (demon-xanth)
09/05/2017 at 16:09, STARS: 0
Further reading:
https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/publications/brdg_frm_wghts/index.htm
"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
09/05/2017 at 16:10, STARS: 2
The Russians aren’t as fussy about what they allow on the roads so many heavily used American trucks apparently end up there.
You hear about those supposed advantages of front engined trucks from people whom use them, but apart from increased space in the cab they’re not actually true. I happened to be reading a trucking magazine I saw somewhere recently where a UK journalist was driving a front engined truck in America. Its maker promised “chrome and technology” but only the first of these was actually true. He found it cramped, noisy and uncomfortable with poor visibility. Despite all that he said that he enjoyed it in a funny kind of way but wouldn’t like to have to drive one for a living.
"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
09/05/2017 at 16:17, STARS: 1
Interestingly, none of the list of truck layouts you describe as being applicable to Europe are generally legal here. The Swedes and Finns have got themselves an exemption from EU regs to let them use Type A for national (but not to the rest of the EU) traffic but otherwise articulated trucks have one, generally three axle, trailer. You can if you wish use a rigid truck pulling a shorter trailer but it won’t look like Type A (unless you’re in Sweden or Finland).
"BritishLeyland™" (leylandcars)
09/05/2017 at 16:18, STARS: 1
This is what we call a “snutebil”.
"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
09/05/2017 at 16:20, STARS: 0
True....but they won’t be Volvos! Volvo don’t sell North American trucks there, or I think anywhere except North America.
"Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street." (demon-xanth)
09/05/2017 at 16:21, STARS: 0
This one is probably more accurate of continental. One of the biggest differences to note between it and the US is the axles in the middle vs the axles at the ends.
"duurtlang" (duurtlang)
09/05/2017 at 16:21, STARS: 1
I had the same reaction (excluding the Scandinavian knowledge), looking at that picture. None of those examples are what you see in real life. 1 trailer max is what you see, sometimes (like you said) a rigid truck with cargo and 1 trailer, but that’s it. No exceptions.
"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
09/05/2017 at 16:22, STARS: 0
Scania used to sell those until the 2000s but then the market just went away.
"duurtlang" (duurtlang)
09/05/2017 at 16:24, STARS: 0
Is this a girth joke?
"MultiplaOrgasms" (themightymultipla)
09/05/2017 at 16:26, STARS: 0
Some european Trucks have this thing called an “external crumple zone” aka half a ton of concrete in the front bumper.
"not for canada - australian in disguise" (for-canada)
09/05/2017 at 16:32, STARS: 0
Also true, although some American-style Volvos are imported into Australia. But if you want to get technical, Mack is owned by Volvo, and along with Western Star and Kenworth they are one of the more iconic manufacturers of the Australian road train.
"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
09/05/2017 at 16:33, STARS: 0
Nope, we don’t have those either.
Here’s what the Swedes and Finns use, unless they’re going abroad:
The rest of us use these, with either two or three axles on the tractor:
Interestingly, they’re both Scanias now that I notice.
"Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street." (demon-xanth)
09/05/2017 at 16:37, STARS: 0
In my last picture, the first would be represented by D, the second by A without the second trailer.
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
09/05/2017 at 16:45, STARS: 0
You’re a girth joke.
"Manwich - now Keto-Friendly" (manwich)
09/05/2017 at 17:42, STARS: 0
That’s interesting. I thought long nose trucks were more popular in North America due to easier service as well as the shorter length not providing a meaningful benefit the way it does on Europe’s tighter roads.
"ranwhenparked" (ranwhenparked)
09/05/2017 at 20:27, STARS: 0
Generally better ride quality with a long hood truck, too. We went through a phase in the ‘70s when cabovers gained real popularity, but they went away pretty quickly. Owner/drivers never really took to them, but fleets seemed to buy them at the time.
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
09/06/2017 at 07:19, STARS: 1
useless piece of info, the Freighter factory is just a few kms away from me.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
09/06/2017 at 15:51, STARS: 0
Yes we do, because peniscompensation.