So I saw a Model X in person the other morning...

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Published 08/22/2017 at 15:12

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Much smaller than I expected. Not really a minivan, seemed like more of a Microvan like the Mazda 5. About the size of the Escape that was right behind me, seeing them side by side. Granted, this is just a 3-second impression mostly from my mirrors, but it looked little.


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Kinja'd!!! "davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction)
08/22/2017 at 15:16, STARS: 4

So bloated...

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Kinja'd!!! "Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras" (jegoingout)
08/22/2017 at 15:21, STARS: 0

If you ever get a solid look at one in person, you’ll see how large it appears

Kinja'd!!! "Jason Spears" (shadestalker)
08/22/2017 at 15:29, STARS: 1

It’s not bad, but it does kind of give off a Model S Crosstour vibe.

Kinja'd!!! "Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein)
08/22/2017 at 15:29, STARS: 0

It’s much closer in size to a typical minivan than a Mazda 5.

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Kinja'd!!! "BigBlock440" (440-4bbl)
08/22/2017 at 15:31, STARS: 0

It’s possible, maybe because it’s the same height as the Escape my mind imposed the other dimension on it too.

Kinja'd!!! "BigBlock440" (440-4bbl)
08/22/2017 at 15:33, STARS: 0

I don’t see Mazda 5's much either (maybe not at all). I was just driving along and “oh shit, that’s a Model X”, then “wow, that’s much smaller than I expected”.

Kinja'd!!! "DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back" (karsonkinja)
08/22/2017 at 15:40, STARS: 0

I saw one the other day and the stupid door handles weren’t aligned. I mean seriously, you’re paying Tesla all this money for this elite vehicle but they can’t do basic fit and finish?

Kinja'd!!! "Phyrxes once again has a wagon!" (phyrxes)
08/22/2017 at 15:54, STARS: 1

I think the way the roofline slopes gives it desceptive lines, especially compared to a Sienna or Odyssey. As someone said its shape is more like an accord crosstour or one of the German lifted sedan things that I refuse to call a SUV.

Kinja'd!!! "Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein)
08/22/2017 at 16:01, STARS: 1

Compared to a typical minivan, the Model X’s overall dimensions are almost as big, but its shape and proportions are kinda like a higher-roofed BMW 5- or 6-series Gran Turismo. It’s got a longer hood and a more sloped back end. So I can see how it would appear to not be as massive as a minivan even though its overall dimensions are close.

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Kinja'd!!! "Kiltedpadre" (kiltedpadre)
08/22/2017 at 19:21, STARS: 1

I know someone that just traded a model s for an x. The first one they sent was bad enough he flat out refused to take it. The second he took, but he’s waiting for parts to be shipped so they can fix a few smaller issues.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
01/16/2018 at 16:46, STARS: 0

Guy at my job just picked his up: a buck-forty, it cost him.

I think you’d find this interesting, and I’d enjoy hearing your thoughts on it:

https://oppositelock.kinja.com/politics-interesting-commentary-on-the-daca-fight-1822132559

Kinja'd!!! "BigBlock440" (440-4bbl)
01/16/2018 at 21:47, STARS: 0

I don’t see anything glaringly wrong with it. I think the majority of people would be ok with letting people already here stay, if and only if there were better security and measures taken to address the issue, otherwise we’ll wind up right back here having this same conversation in a few years with the next wave of people we can’t agree what to do with.

The opposite holds true of massive, illegal and nondiverse influxes of foreign nationals. The results are too often tribalism, political manipulation and factionalism, as the current multicultural and multiethnic turmoil in the Balkans, Middle East, Africa — and now Europe — attest

One thing though, illegal or not, mass immigration is going to lead to those things. It’s human nature to flock to people similar to yourself. Different cultures will always clash, tribalism will always exist (just look at high-school or college rivalries), but when large numbers of one culture or tribe move in, it completely eliminates the need for them to assimilate, so they’ll clash with the native population. Weird part of human nature, resists and seeks out change simultaneously.

One example of this is all the stories about ending the TPS for several countries, many of them have been here 20 years and still don’t know English. Then you have the articles about how they send so much of it back to their home countries, taking that money directly out of the American economy. Another is that in my area (a small northeast city), most of the manufacturing plants need an interpreter on staff as over half of the workforce only speaks spanish.

I wasn’t planning on wading into it tonight, and probably a bit scattered and rambling, but you asked so I obliged.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
01/17/2018 at 00:42, STARS: 0

It’s good. How do you quote in the gray box?

I didn’t see anything glaringly wrong with it either, though no capacity for the sentimentalities of social justice. I heard a story today about the CEO of Blackstone, managing something number of trillions of dollars, sending out a letter telling other CEOs they need to begin finding more responsible things to invest in. Ironic if that happens under 45's reign and I am not too liberal nor stubborn to welcome it under anyone’s tenure. When 45 started out, I said, “At least it’s not Ted Cruz.” I take that back.

My big thing about immigration is environmental: the globe has a caste system where you get whatever natural resources there are where you are born and until you try to cross some line on a map because you want to feed your family.

I’m tired and scattered as well and the 4 am alarm comes early.

Kinja'd!!! "BigBlock440" (440-4bbl)
01/17/2018 at 08:20, STARS: 0

I don’t know if the quote thing’s on all platforms, but on the web browsers there’s a text symbol in the upper-right of the box. Clicking that expands the options, highlight the text you want in the box, then click the ” symbol.

My big thing about immigration is environmental: the globe has a caste system where you get whatever natural resources there are where you are born and until you try to cross some line on a map because you want to feed your family.

That’s true to an extent, though a lot of immigration isn’t. Whether natural disasters, corrupt government, violence, etc., they’ve got enough resources, but can’t capitalize on it to form a functioning society. On the individual level, yeah, leaving for somewhere can be the right thing to do, the host society can absorb a few individuals no problem. But on a large scale, you have a ton of people from one culture getting injected in another society with no dilution, it causes lots of strain. As with most things, dilution and moderation reduces the effects of things.

But going with the premise that it’s solely about resources and there’s scarcity, then the question is do we lower everyone’s quality of life in the host country to raise that of the newcomers? Do we just say “tough shit, that’s the hand you’re dealt”? Do we take from the resource-rich areas and supply the resource-poor? There’s always going to be an upper class and a lower class, somebody with more than somebody else. And just by nature of the earth, there’s always going to be areas more resource rich than others. People need some form of structure or hierarchy, and there’s no way that that hierarchy won’t affect distribution of resources. The other thing is land availability, the areas producing the resources won’t be able to produce as much if they’re populated, so that still brings up the “chosen few” with the resources needing to supply the ones that don’t have them or enough of them.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
01/17/2018 at 12:53, STARS: 0

You are a very satisfying person to correspond with. May I ask your age? I am 53.

But going with the premise that it’s solely about resources and there’s scarcity, then the question is do we lower everyone’s quality of life in the host country to raise that of the newcomers? Do we just say “tough shit, that’s the hand you’re dealt”? Do we take from the resource-rich areas and supply the resource-poor?

(I couldn’t find the browser feature you referenced.)

I think you have stated my rhetorical question accurately. There’s another layer to this: religion. In the religion that I subscribe to, we are promised that there’s plenty provided to go around, and we inhabitants are the stewards. I don’t think it takes a socialist to conclude that some “floating” of resources, in the sense of evening out, is indicated.

I’m way more liberal, way more socially minded than many, but I am happy to spend time examining immigration, and that is happening now. I wish we could keep it more classy.

Kinja'd!!! "BigBlock440" (440-4bbl)
01/18/2018 at 19:49, STARS: 0

I’m 28. I agree that there’s currently plenty to go around, and I’m happy to share. To an extent. The problem is when it’s more than one or two, and they (whatever culture it may be) become concentrated enough to start forcing a change. As soon as it starts to negatively affect you and your current way of life is where the generosity starts to be challenged.

Kinja'd!!! "Crotchety Curmudgeon" (crotchetycurmudgeon)
02/27/2018 at 09:23, STARS: 0

$140,000? That’s the kind of money I’d spend on a house!

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
02/27/2018 at 14:20, STARS: 0

Same.

Kinja'd!!! "stix6telsa911t" (drosubies)
10/06/2018 at 09:44, STARS: 0

Sit in one and it will change your mind, promise. Visit a showroom or take a free test drive. If you don’t like them to begin with this why not understand what you don’t like.

Kinja'd!!! "BigBlock440" (440-4bbl)
10/07/2018 at 17:31, STARS: 0

Is Tesla paying you?  How do I get in on that gig?  Dead serious, I’d love to know how I can make money trolling the internet.