by "Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen" (distraxi)
Published 06/26/2017 at 03:21
by "Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen" (distraxi)
Published 06/26/2017 at 03:21
Tags: Toyobaru
STARS: 1
In 30 years of car ownership I’ve never before broken a wheelstud. In the 6 months I’ve owned the GT86 I’ve broken two. And it’s not through overtorquing - I’m religious about using a torque wrench. They’re just shit. Next one that breaks, the OEM ones are all gone and it’s aftermarket all round.
Strange thing is they’re common to practically everything Subaru’s made in the last decade. You’d have thought they’d have sorted that shit out by now.
"Echo51" (echo2047)
06/26/2017 at 03:27, STARS: 0
Have you had the torque wrench calibrated/checked recently?
"Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen" (distraxi)
06/26/2017 at 03:36, STARS: 0
Yup. Checked it at work after I broke the second one. All good. Neither of them broke in tightening either: first one popped on the track, second one seized and I had to muscle it off.
"CodyVella" (codyvella)
06/26/2017 at 04:16, STARS: 1
The last Xterra I had kept going through studs on one wheel. Every few months a stud would snap off the right front. It went through 7 studs on the same wheel in a two year period. Never was able to figure it out. I thought it might have been a rim that was warped near the center so I swapped the wheel with a different one, same results.
"VonBootWilly - Likes Toyota, but it's still complicated." (vonbootwilly)
06/26/2017 at 05:54, STARS: 0
That’s gross on multiple levels. I’m used to seeing the big three blowing off lugstuds but I’ve never seen Japanese produced cars breaking them. Sadface for the department that was told to save money on wheel hardware.
Is it just OEM wheels or is there aftermarket wheels involved? Hubs are seated with good rings? Lugs aren’t bottoming in the acorn? Just curious.
Does Subaru handle the wheel hubs and lugs on the car too? I’m going to need to learn about how much of the car is Subaru before committing to one in the near future. I am still into the idea of a BRZ commuter.
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
06/26/2017 at 05:58, STARS: 0
yeah Subaru studs are a bit on the touchy side, as a dealer we always kept a few studs and nuts in stock at all times.
"Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen" (distraxi)
06/26/2017 at 06:02, STARS: 0
OEM everything, even tires. So it’s got no excuse.
AFAIK, pretty much everything that’s not bespoke is out of the Subaru parts bin.
"Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen" (distraxi)
06/26/2017 at 06:06, STARS: 0
Funny thing is Toyota dealers stock practically no 86 parts, and try persuading them to send someone up the road to get Subaru bits :-(
It’d be miles easier to use an independent, but the previous owner bought the extended warrantee and it seems wrong not to make Toyota honor it....
"kanadanmajava1" (kanadanmajava1)
06/26/2017 at 06:45, STARS: 0
What kind of torque value we are talking about here?
"Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen" (distraxi)
06/26/2017 at 06:56, STARS: 0
120Nm (89 lbft) per the manual.
"kanadanmajava1" (kanadanmajava1)
06/26/2017 at 06:58, STARS: 1
It does sound quite sensible. Maybe a quality issue in the whole batch?
"Sovande" (sovande)
06/26/2017 at 07:58, STARS: 0
I have owned something like 15 cars and the only wheelstud I have ever broken was also on a Subaru.
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
06/26/2017 at 08:01, STARS: 0
combine that with fords lug nuts and it would be a total disaster
"Tripper" (tripe46)
06/26/2017 at 08:15, STARS: 1
My buddy had the same experience with his BRZ
"Discerning" (discerning2003c5z)
06/26/2017 at 09:23, STARS: 1
That’s disappointing to here.
I wish there was more Toyo in the toyobaru twins.
"AfromanGTO" (afromangto)
06/26/2017 at 10:02, STARS: 0
ARP has to make wheel studs for it.
"jimz" (jimz)
06/26/2017 at 10:21, STARS: 0
on the other hand, when some tire shop numpty tightened the lugnuts on my SRT-4 so much that I broke two lug wrenches and needed a heavy duty breaker bar and 4 ft of pipe to get them loose, the studs were fine.
"WRXforScience" (WRXforScience)
06/26/2017 at 11:38, STARS: 1
They do, and are really easy to install. There was a big hubbub on the FT86 forums when a rep said that the stock studs are only designed for about 50 lifetime tire changes.
"AfromanGTO" (afromangto)
06/26/2017 at 12:24, STARS: 0
50 lifetime tire changes? What’s that? 50 times loosening and tightening the lugs? How many ugga ugga is that?
"TheD0k_2many toys 2little time" (thed0ck)
06/26/2017 at 12:53, STARS: 0
never had an issue with any ford lugs. and ive owned many fords. parents have as well
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
06/26/2017 at 12:54, STARS: 0
this is my 4th Ford, while i’ve had other issues, this is the first for lugs
"uofime-2" (uofime-2)
06/26/2017 at 12:56, STARS: 0
yup Subaru lug studs suck.
"WRXforScience" (WRXforScience)
06/26/2017 at 13:05, STARS: 2
2 ugga ugga is the industry standard, and yeah they seemed to indicate that the stock studs were only good for around 50 tire changes (I change mine 4-8 times per month due to racing).
I went through 4-5 studs on my previous WRX, I ditched the stock lug nuts and started using copper grease on the studs and kept from breaking during the last 2.5 years of ownership. The stock lug nuts don’t do the studs any favors.
I swapped out the stock studs for ARP extended studs on my BRZ this past winter. The stock studs stood up to a year and a half of heavy autocross duty without issue, but after the headache of my WRX studs I felt more comfortable swapping out the studs (which cost less than when I had to have a single stud replaced at a dealership while out of town for a race).
"Decay buys too many beaters" (decay)
06/26/2017 at 13:12, STARS: 1
I torque mine to 86 ft-lb with anti seize on the threads and have yet to break one with 3 years of bi-weekly wheel removals.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
06/26/2017 at 13:19, STARS: 1
Yeah Subaru studs are finicky as fuck. If you are not torquing them down just right you will strip and break studs. We have them in stock always due to this. I highly suggest getting good aftermarket studs.
"merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc" (merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc)
06/26/2017 at 13:34, STARS: 2
I’d be wanting to swap those out asap. Especially if you’re tracking it. Not worth the added damages and headaches if you lose a wheel on the track or road. Sure the warranty covers you, but it’s just not worth it at this point is it? I can’t think a set of ARP studs are too crazy cost wise.