by "My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat)
Published 06/07/2017 at 13:13
by "My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat)
Published 06/07/2017 at 13:13
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STARS: 11
So much edge
"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
06/07/2017 at 13:16, STARS: 9
The only good way to write a date is yyyy-mm-dd
Base 10 is a trash counting system and should be abandoned immediately.
"Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
06/07/2017 at 13:17, STARS: 0
How many knots-lbs to a slug-furlong?
"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
06/07/2017 at 13:18, STARS: 6
Star given for ISO 8601 support, and removed for base 10 hatred.
"Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs" (yowen)
06/07/2017 at 13:19, STARS: 2
yyyy-mm-dd sure made the most sense when I used to unload my digital camera into designated folders. That way I could organize alphabetically and get it to be chronological.
"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
06/07/2017 at 13:20, STARS: 4
“Look at me I’m only divisible by two numbers which is totally acceptable and not embarrassing.”
-Base 10, a trash counting system
"CB" (jrcb)
06/07/2017 at 13:21, STARS: 3
Counterpoint: hexadecimal is really hard to count on my fingers.
"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
06/07/2017 at 13:21, STARS: 2
Counterpoint: use a calculator you monster
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
06/07/2017 at 13:22, STARS: 0
I’ll give base 10 the edge for making cleaner graphs.
"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
06/07/2017 at 13:23, STARS: 2
Middle ground: how about octal?
(IIRC that actually is why octal is used. Bonus, you can count on it even without thumbs.)
"itschrome" (itschrome)
06/07/2017 at 13:24, STARS: 0
The only good way to write a date is yyyy-mm-dd
Epoch time or GTFO!
"Mercedes Streeter" (smart)
06/07/2017 at 13:24, STARS: 0
The American date format actually makes sense if you think of it like this:
There are 12 months.
There are up to 31 days.
Years are a 4 digit number for now.
Basically our date format goes from lowest to highest numerical order. The rest of the world does it based on length of time. Days are shorter so they’re first, then months, then years. Which is better? That’s up for discussion.
Otherwise yeah, our counting system was clearly developed by really drunk (or stupid) people.
"CB" (jrcb)
06/07/2017 at 13:25, STARS: 3
I mean, binary is really easy when counting on your fingers.
"CB" (jrcb)
06/07/2017 at 13:27, STARS: 0
Binary is better.
"Milky" (jordanmielke)
06/07/2017 at 13:29, STARS: 1
If the rest of the world is doing it, we don’t like it.
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
06/07/2017 at 13:31, STARS: 1
Way to cherry pick there.
inches in a foot - 12
feet in a yard - 3
yards in a chain - 22
chains in a furlong - 10
furlongs in a mile - 8
Just because Americans are better at math, and can multiply/divide by something other than 10/100/1000 doesn’t make a system ‘retarded’.
Also, the base of Celsius is -273.15 degrees.
"jimz" (jimz)
06/07/2017 at 13:32, STARS: 2
there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don’t.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
06/07/2017 at 13:38, STARS: 3
- I’m down with inches and feet, the foot is a good “in-between” measurement that doesn’t exist in metric and is a more natural length, which means you can get a good idea of somethings size without any measuring tools. And 12 inches to a foot makes it easier to use fractional units than if there were 10, and in construction at least fractions are way nicer to use than decimals. Though if I’m honest I’d prefer 8 or 16 inches to a foot. Yards, miles can gtfo. I can relate to pounds because that has always been what I’ve used, but it doesn’t really make sense. Ounces I don’t know what to do with.
- Fahrenheit is a stupid scale afaic but the numbers aren’t just arbitrary. Unrelated to pure water and unrelated to each other, but there’s a reason those numbers are where they are. It’s a divisions-of-12 type scale, probably because of feet/inches. 96F was supposed to be human body temp (as close as it could be measured at the time, anyway) and 0F was water+ice+salt (probably because it would have been the coldest possible man-made temperature at the time). Celsius was a different kind of stupid originally, too. Freezing of water was 100C and boiling water was 0C.
- Fwiw I prefer to say “June 7th” over “the 7th of June”. Therefore it makes more sense to me to use mm-dd-yyyy over dd-mm-yyyy. Personally I’d prefer to see yyyy-mm-dd though, so there’s that.
Side notes: I don’t live in the USA, and you can blame England for most of this, not the USA.
"RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire" (ricerocketeer2)
06/07/2017 at 13:38, STARS: 0
someone will be by shortly to remove those unnecessary thumbs
"Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
06/07/2017 at 13:41, STARS: 1
Y’know, that’s a good point. The Metric system is elegant, but it would be even better if Metric was a base 12 system, which could be easily divided into halves, thirds, and quarters.
"Cash Rewards" (cashrewards)
06/07/2017 at 13:42, STARS: 0
Base 12. 3 segments of 4 fingers, excluding thumb. Divisible by 2,3,and 4, getting real rational fractions for most numbers.
"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
06/07/2017 at 13:42, STARS: 3
Base 8 is just as bad; only divisible by 2 and 4
Base 12 is better; divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6. Also, humans are supposed to have 12 fingers, so base 10 is just another injustice perpetrated by the 10-fingered mutants.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
06/07/2017 at 13:47, STARS: 0
Base 8 or 16 for preference.
"awmaster10" (awmaster10)
06/07/2017 at 13:50, STARS: 1
Thank you for defending us, I was going to make the same points lol
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
06/07/2017 at 13:51, STARS: 0
So somehow -459.67 is better? I pick and choose measurements from each myself, but Fahrenheit is stupid on any level when compared to Celsius.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
06/07/2017 at 13:57, STARS: 1
I try to defend what makes sense to me, and try to offer perspective even on things that don’t.
In general I just don’t like things getting written off as black and white unless there really is no visible middle ground to me :)
"awmaster10" (awmaster10)
06/07/2017 at 14:00, STARS: 1
I find it a meaningless thing to debate anyways as TONS of things in the United States are measured in metric, and we are all able to understand what a meter or centimeter are.
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
06/07/2017 at 14:03, STARS: 1
Now let’s see charts about metric useage and being bankrupt
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
06/07/2017 at 14:06, STARS: 1
Nope, -459.67 is equally bad, because both systems were developed long before absolute zero was understood.
Celsius has only an added level of utility when measuring distilled water temperature, which is relevant for almost no one.
For the average person, room temperature and the typical range of their local weather is all that is relevant. For anyone in a scientific field, an different range is going to be appropriate, and is unlikely to revolve around the matter transition temperatures of one specific compound.
"404 - User No Longer Available" (toni-cipriani)
06/07/2017 at 14:08, STARS: 0
So much edge
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"crowmolly" (crowmolly)
06/07/2017 at 14:14, STARS: 0
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
06/07/2017 at 14:21, STARS: 0
I’ll grant you that, however I still think the tiebreaker goes to Celsius. 0-100 scale based on two temperatures from the same substance>unrelated limits on a 0-96 scale.
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
06/07/2017 at 14:27, STARS: 1
But the 96 was a manufacturing efficiency. Technology!
"Aremmes" (aremmes)
06/07/2017 at 14:35, STARS: 0
How about base 20?
Or maybe base 60?
"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
06/07/2017 at 14:36, STARS: 0
Better
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
06/07/2017 at 14:38, STARS: 0
You can count to 12 on one hand! Use the joints in each finger. Sixteen is just as easy. Just add the fingertip to the joints.
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"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
06/07/2017 at 14:39, STARS: 0
Wow put a NSFL warning before posting freakish mutant hands
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
06/07/2017 at 15:05, STARS: 0
Well, they are a bit dirty...
"tromoly" (tromoly)
06/07/2017 at 15:15, STARS: 0
How about comverting weight to gravitational force?
US / Imperial: 1 pound-mass = 1 pound-force
Metric: 1 kilogram = 9.81 Newtons
"ateamfan42" (ateamfan42)
06/07/2017 at 15:39, STARS: 1
Side notes: I don’t live in the USA, and you can blame England for most of this, not the USA.
You can blame England for inventing most of it, but you still have to blame us USians for not abandoning it when the rest of the world did.
"ateamfan42" (ateamfan42)
06/07/2017 at 15:52, STARS: 0
US / Imperial: 1 pound-mass = 1 pound-force
The problem with that is “pound-mass” is a fiction created just to try to correspond with the unit of weight. The Imperial unit of mass is the
slug
, which is definitely not a commonly familiar term.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
06/07/2017 at 15:52, STARS: 0
I don’t have a problem with them not abandoning it entirely--but they should have thrown some things out the window. Kg is a better weight measurement. Litres are better volume units. Feet/inches are great, the mile is here to stay so meh, millimeters are good for precision engineering, centimeters suck for construction imo, the yard might as well be replaced with the meter--they’re close enough.
"Berang" (berang)
06/07/2017 at 16:13, STARS: 0
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"tromoly" (tromoly)
06/07/2017 at 16:42, STARS: 0
Most all vehicle dynamic equations I’ve come across use pound-mass, not slugs. Ye olde British Gravitational units of olde, English Engineering standard has superseeded it in most engineering.
"ateamfan42" (ateamfan42)
06/07/2017 at 16:48, STARS: 0
Kg is a better weight measurement.
I have to disagree with this one, because kilograms are a terrible weight measurement— not being weight at all. Grams (and kilograms) are units of mass. Getting even the most hardcore metric fanboys to use newtons seems neigh impossible, though.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
06/07/2017 at 17:37, STARS: 0
Ok, but kg are the equivalent to pounds, no? better than that. Whatever.
"ateamfan42" (ateamfan42)
06/08/2017 at 07:44, STARS: 1
Ok, but kg are the equivalent to pounds, no?
But they aren’t equivalent. Kilogram is a measure of mass; pounds are units of weight. They are measuring different (but related) properties.
As bizarre as it may sound to some folks, correcting converting between the metric and imperial units means pounds convert to newtons and kilograms convert to slugs.