Homeowner Oppo Empathy Needed

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Published 05/23/2017 at 22:19

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My contractor (the son of an Italian family business - my people) tells me we have dry rot in our carport and our carport is “sagging.”

This is a problem. I budgeted for windows and exterior paint at $15,000 - $20,000. These are essential.

My carport has an attached shed that is actually pretty cool.

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But, if I tore it down, I have room for a 3-4 car garage. Dream come true, Oppo.

BUT.... no money for that. The plan was 3-5-7 years down the line.

But if a temporary fix on the carport costs any real money, I may have to look at borrowing, partly because a garage is one of the few home improvements that adds value.

I am concerned about this, Oppo. 68 year old house.


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Kinja'd!!! "daender" (daender)
05/23/2017 at 22:24, STARS: 1

Take up underground Vespa racing to raise funds to afford garage dreams?

Kinja'd!!! "My X-type is too a real Jaguar" (TomSlick)
05/23/2017 at 22:25, STARS: 1

I would get a loan and hire it done, my father would demo it himself hire the concrete work done and build it himself, my grandfather would sister up enough 2x8s to make the existing structure stable.

Kinja'd!!! "My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat)
05/23/2017 at 22:27, STARS: 0

drain pool

build ramp

park car

Kinja'd!!! "My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat)
05/23/2017 at 22:27, STARS: 1

drain pool

build ramp

park car

Kinja'd!!! "Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
05/23/2017 at 22:32, STARS: 1

Dry rot repair shouldn’t be to bad if it’s just a couple of ceiling beams and posts. Otherwise yes a 3 car garage is in order. My house in Sacramento was built in 1942 and I was constantly chasing dry rot. It’s the wet winters then blasting by the sun and heat all summer it’s hard on wood.

Kinja'd!!! "The Snowman" (the-snowman)
05/23/2017 at 22:57, STARS: 0

Just had a 1000sqft shop built for under $25,000. Metal buildings are the only way to go for detached garages.

Kinja'd!!! "ranwhenparked" (ranwhenparked)
05/23/2017 at 23:30, STARS: 1

I would go with the minimum repairs necessary to keep the carport safe and serviceable for the 3-7 years it will take to save up for a proper garage. If the rot is just on the ends of the beams, you can cut that out and scarf on new pieces. If its toward the middle, you can always just sister on new lumber - not a permanent repair, but it should last at least as long as you intend to keep the structure.

If I understand you correctly, you’re just looking for the cheapest and easiest way to get a few more years out of it before you tear the whole thing down and replace it, so it doesn’t have to be a top quality job. Just shore it up so its safe and won’t get worse.

Kinja'd!!! "BJ" (benjamin-bignell)
05/23/2017 at 23:35, STARS: 0

Get a couple of quotes for repairs that will keep it safe for 5 years, it might not be that bad.

And how saggy is it? Will it hold 1 year so that you can save up a bit of money? Ask these questions and find out. It’s rarely black-and-white.

Kinja'd!!! "notsomethingstructural" (notsomethingstructural)
05/24/2017 at 00:40, STARS: 1

licensed structural engineer here but please don’t construe free advice on the internet based on a couple pictures as structural advice:

i would be more worried about rot than a sag especially because that’s almost certainly untreated wood. rot will accelerate relatively out of view until it is at a point where there is a very sudden and catastrophic failure. it’s not absurdly predictable. sags mean there’s a latent issue somewhere but that can be anything from undersized members to footings that are too small. if the building has been up for decades, sags mean it’s almost done breaking in.

deflection in members is not always indicative of a potential failure. with other symptoms it can be a symptom of overstress, but on its own with this much life on it it’s somewhat unlikely.

as someone said, i would sister whatever’s there. after 50+ years a full R&R is more likely to create problems. and FYI as a frame of reference, in new york, last i knew rough sistering goes in the ballpark of $10-20 a foot depending on size, nails vs bolts, whether they’re level tops, etc. not cheap but if it’s only a few spots it’s not that bad either.

Kinja'd!!! "R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet" (r-saldana)
05/24/2017 at 07:01, STARS: 0

What does your area market/per square foot average value stack up? How likely are you to sell and move before this current bubble bursts?

Upgrading and adding into your home while great for your everyday life right now and for whatever future you may see in this house, may become detrimental if the values of the homes around you are not commensurate.

Source: live in Nashville, real estate if off the chain right now. As much as I want an unattached garage, built in bookshelves in almost every room, and an amenity-filled master bathroom (free standing tub) I am likely at the very top end of what is possible for my home. Previous owners had to have lost money putting in an insulated and air conditioned sun room where the back patio used to be, new appliances, new paint throughout, and some custom electrical work.