by "bob and john" (bobandjohn)
Published 05/18/2017 at 11:32
by "bob and john" (bobandjohn)
Published 05/18/2017 at 11:32
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this is breaker bar #2 after we broke the first one.
"Justin Hughes" (justinhughes54)
05/18/2017 at 11:35, STARS: 0
Jack handle? Been there, done that!
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
05/18/2017 at 11:35, STARS: 0
*bends breaker bar*
*car falls off jack stands*
*pete folds into quantum dimension*
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 11:35, STARS: 0
no, just a pipe.
"Tripper" (tripe46)
05/18/2017 at 11:39, STARS: 1
Hah this picture reminds me of my buddy working on his fox body mustang when we were in high school, as he was using a similar breaker bar. I said “hey man, pretty sure that jack stand is in the wrong place”. He said, “nah it’s good.” 5 seconds later he had a jack stand in his passenger foot well.
"Stapleface" (patrickgruden)
05/18/2017 at 11:39, STARS: 0
Well duh, you should have used the don’t breaker bar. ;)
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
05/18/2017 at 11:40, STARS: 0
Been there. I seem to recall it was a front left on a mid 90s Civic.
"Stapleface" (patrickgruden)
05/18/2017 at 11:41, STARS: 1
I can see the flex in that pipe. I don’t understand how some things can be put on with so much torque that it takes a pack of angry gorillas to get it off.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 11:41, STARS: 2
the remounting instructions where: torque to 180ft-lbs, then + 1/2 turn.
me and friend: LMAO fuck that
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
05/18/2017 at 11:41, STARS: 2
When I was a kid, my buddy’s dad always gave him a chore to complete before we could go running around. I usually pitched in so we could have more time to goof off. One day he asked us to take the wheels off of a cattle trailer he was working on. We tried everything and couldn’t get the lug nuts to budge. He finally decided to check on our progress and found the two of us jumping up and down on a four-foot cheater pipe.
It was the only time I ever heard him laugh.
"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
05/18/2017 at 11:42, STARS: 2
more like jerk stand
"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
05/18/2017 at 11:42, STARS: 0
E L A S T I C D E F O R M A T I O N
"McMike" (mcmike)
05/18/2017 at 11:42, STARS: 1
I’ve been through this a half-dozen times with a 300ftlb axle nut. I have broken many 1/2" drive breaker bars trying to get that SOB off.
The longer the pipe, the more torque you will have to ruin a breaker bar.
Impact, you need impact.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 11:43, STARS: 0
we had the impact.
didnt do fuck all.
"EL_ULY" (uly)
05/18/2017 at 11:45, STARS: 1
crank pulley bolt on 2JZ ‘s
"nerd_racing" (nerd189)
05/18/2017 at 11:45, STARS: 0
Go to Horror Freight and get yourself one of their 3/4" drive sets. It should hold up better than the 1/2" drive and they are stout. We used them to change a fellow Jalop’s B5 S4 Wheel Bearings last summer.
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
05/18/2017 at 11:46, STARS: 0
1200ft/lbs breakaway
"Agrajag" (Agrajag)
05/18/2017 at 11:46, STARS: 0
I had a similar setup when doing the fronts on my GTI.
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
05/18/2017 at 11:48, STARS: 0
Pneumatic or electric?
"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
05/18/2017 at 11:48, STARS: 0
Least precise German car instructions ever? I had to scroll back up to make sure it wasn’t a Chrysler product.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 11:48, STARS: 0
Pneumatic. it was a stubborn friggen bolt
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 11:49, STARS: 0
actually, it said: torque to 180ft-lbs, then another 180*.
so eh?
"MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s" (mastermario)
05/18/2017 at 11:50, STARS: 0
As your friend hangs on the breaker bar hit the end with a BFH and viola you have a manual high torque impact
"fintail" (fintail)
05/18/2017 at 11:50, STARS: 0
Watch out, you’ll trip over that hose, fall and knock over the bike.
"interstate366, now In The Industry" (interstate366)
05/18/2017 at 11:50, STARS: 0
Did you try unpinning it?
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 11:51, STARS: 0
thats actually me hanging on it LOL
"Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
05/18/2017 at 11:51, STARS: 1
Yes, but I think they are moving beyond elastic and reaching plastic deformation.
"MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s" (mastermario)
05/18/2017 at 11:52, STARS: 1
okay fine, as you hang on it have your friend hit the end with a BFH
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
05/18/2017 at 11:54, STARS: 0
Holy shot I guess so
"Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
05/18/2017 at 11:54, STARS: 0
This is why I take my car to a shop for wheel bearings.
"If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent" (essextee)
05/18/2017 at 11:54, STARS: 0
When I did the control arms on my old car we had to break out a 1 inch drive impact wrench to get the bolts out.
"Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein)
05/18/2017 at 11:54, STARS: 1
From the thumbnail I was like, “why is a uniformed policeman working on a car?”
"RacinBob" (racinbob)
05/18/2017 at 11:55, STARS: 2
Get a real impact wrench with appropriate sockets. or take it to a shop with a real impact wrench. That breaker bar setup will get you nowhere because between the flex in the bar, and twisting the suspension, maybe 1/3 of the torque is actually delivered to the nut.
A lot of people complain that their impact doesn’t do the trick. Those are the ones trying to use too small of gun, with too small of air line. Don’t be that guy. Go to a shop with a real compressor and tools and I bet in 5 minutes it will be off.
I once was parting out a car and busted 3 of 5 studs on one wheel using a breaker bar. I asked for help. My buddy came over with his air compressor and in about 3 minutes all the rest of the nuts were off with no drama.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
05/18/2017 at 11:55, STARS: 1
I needed close to that to break the wheel lugs loose on my sister’s car once. I was ~250lbs and jumping on a cheater. Impact gun couldn’t do jack shit. Surprised the studs weren’t sheared off, or at least stripped.
How the VW DEALER had someone on their staff that would tighten them like that, I don’t know. Working for a German company you’d expect they’d have been executed immediately.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 11:57, STARS: 0
erm, triple square. not socket
2: we had a 50 gallon compressor, a 1 inch line, and a shjop-grade impact. shit all.
breaker bar did the trick. this was AFTER it broke loose.
"Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
05/18/2017 at 12:03, STARS: 0
Suddenly old tapered bearings that have to be re-packed each time you do brakes don’t seem so bad.
"RacinBob" (racinbob)
05/18/2017 at 12:03, STARS: 1
1" air line? Odd, my garden hose is only 3/4 inch....... What kind of wrench takes a 1" line, one of these?
!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!
Glad you got it off...
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 12:05, STARS: 0
it was a mean friggen bolt. that really what it came down too.
also, canadia rust and what not probably didnt help its case
"McMike" (mcmike)
05/18/2017 at 12:05, STARS: 0
Oh god, I didn’t even see it lying in the driveway.
Put it back together, drive it to a garage and have someone with a big impact gun crack that nut for you then re-torque it.
What’s the torque supposed to be on it?
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 12:06, STARS: 0
180ft-lbs + 180* of rotation.
me and friend: LOL fuck that
also, the breaker bar DID take it off.
"McMike" (mcmike)
05/18/2017 at 12:08, STARS: 0
Oh, great. I thought you were going to be going through several more breaker bars today.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 12:10, STARS: 1
this was a few days ago. I’ve just been busy packing.
"ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper" (thedlo)
05/18/2017 at 12:12, STARS: 0
You should put the wheel back on, and do it while the car is on the floor, through the center bore. Or by a TQ multiplier, and use it in conjunction. But deff get the wheel back on.
"jimz" (jimz)
05/18/2017 at 12:14, STARS: 0
I had to do that to get the lug nuts off of my SRT-4 once. stupid tire shop.
"PartyPooper2012" (PartyPooper2012)
05/18/2017 at 12:15, STARS: 0
Dear Peter Black, SV Wrangler, motorcycleprof
Have you tried applying heat to this naughty nut? Penetrating fluid? Is it possible the thread is opposite of usual - lefty tighty?
I know I know... you got it off. Good. Just saying... there are many tricks you could have used instead of applying enough torque to twist a car
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 12:15, STARS: 0
the issue with that being the rear rotors dont allow for that to happen.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 12:15, STARS: 1
didnt have the time to do so. car is my friends DD, needed to be off NOW.
it lost that fight :D
"ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper" (thedlo)
05/18/2017 at 12:18, STARS: 0
the rear rotors block the axle nut?!? Stack spacers in place.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 12:21, STARS: 0
bearing nut*
no rear axle on a GTI.
meh, this worked, this worked well. other side will probably get the same treatment.
"ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper" (thedlo)
05/18/2017 at 12:23, STARS: 0
What worked?
LOL, right, my bad, Audi guy here, axle nuts on all corners.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 12:24, STARS: 0
the breaker bar :)
"ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper" (thedlo)
05/18/2017 at 12:25, STARS: 0
Oh! I thought you were still struggling lol. Well in the future, now you know of a plan “C”
"BeaterGT" (beatergt)
05/18/2017 at 12:48, STARS: 0
I’m a fan of using a floor jack for stubborn bolts. And lots of Aerokroil.
"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
05/18/2017 at 12:51, STARS: 0
1"air line? Are those Canadian inches?
"merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc" (merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc)
05/18/2017 at 13:08, STARS: 0
But do yourself a favor on the other side, pop the centercap and break the nut loose before you pull the tire. Should go much easier.
"PartyPooper2012" (PartyPooper2012)
05/18/2017 at 13:10, STARS: 2
it might have lost... but you didn’t really walk away a winner either. Teeny tiny nut and you whip out abrams tanks and tomahawks
"RacinBob" (racinbob)
05/18/2017 at 13:11, STARS: 0
You are appearing to working on the nut that is going onto the axle stub that holds the hub/bearing. You mean nut, right?
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 13:11, STARS: 0
M14 triple square bolt.
but yea. it may have lost, but sum-bitch put up a dam good fight
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/18/2017 at 13:13, STARS: 0
no, it was a bolt
mean mofo
"Orange Exige" (OrangeExige)
05/18/2017 at 15:19, STARS: 1
It works so well! I do the same thing all the time!
"TahoeSTi" (tahoesti)
05/18/2017 at 15:21, STARS: 0
You need one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CZ23MNC/ This is the cheap version nice ones are like $200 but this thing has removed many of bolts that bent breaker bars.
"Orange Exige" (OrangeExige)
05/18/2017 at 15:30, STARS: 1
Ha! I brought my car to a local mechanic just a month or two ago for the first time ever - since I’ve owned a car (5+ years). Had my rear wheels off, ready to swap the hubs, saw the corrosion, knew instantly it’d be a b*tch, but halfheartedly tried and gave up quicker than I ever have. Best $120 I ever spent. Turns out the 12mm nuts needed a 14mm socket because of all the corrosion...
"torque" (torque01)
05/20/2017 at 14:17, STARS: 0
I immediately thought one of these https://www.amazon.com/XtremepowerUS-Torque-Multiplier-Saving-Wrench/dp/B00MI0DOW6/ref=pd_sim_469_8?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00MI0DOW6&pd_rd_r=SG7K9M4GNHB313W42NV5&pd_rd_w=hWAmR&pd_rd_wg=ZfrWz&psc=1&refRID=SG7K9M4GNHB313W42NV5 might of been useful for this type of situation, which fittingly was in the list of “people also bought this” from your link above
"RacinBob" (racinbob)
05/26/2017 at 10:57, STARS: 0
WTF? Never seen such a thing that is so likely to end in disaster. You have my sympathy + admiration for getting it apart.
It sure looks like it would not be more reliable or stronger. And it sure doesn’t look like a cost reduction.....
So what would plan B is when you strip the drive threads; Replace the axle? F’n Germans.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/27/2017 at 23:38, STARS: 0
No axle...
But if you strip a triple square bolt....my friend, you have no buisness being around cars.
"RacinBob" (racinbob)
05/28/2017 at 22:38, STARS: 0
It appears to be a monster torx, which I haven’t seen before. So I can’t vouch for how easily it can be stripped. Granted, there appears to be a cap so it should stay clean. But if it does strip, or if it has the driver snap off inside, I am not sure what plan B is other than replace the knuckle.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
05/28/2017 at 23:10, STARS: 0
not a torx, triple square.
12 90 degree points of contact.
if you screw that up...you should get an award