by "Nibbles" (nibbles)
Published 05/15/2017 at 15:54
by "Nibbles" (nibbles)
Published 05/15/2017 at 15:54
Tags: oppo psa
STARS: 5
I got 99 problems but a declined patch ain’t one
All kidding aside though; maybe I’m biased because my job is ensuring my software gets regular updates on every machine I manage (currently 3407 across the Us - small fry by Microsoft’s standards but still), but there is no reason why your personal computer shouldn’t be receiving automatic updates and security patches. If you’re running 7 [edited] or newer then you’re still under Microsoft’s support lifecycle. They push those updates for a good goddamn reason, folks. It’s not to meet a quota or to needlessly reboot your computer. It’s to keep your shit safe and keep it running as best as they can.
If your computer is still in lifecycle, and you turned off automatic updates, you have nobody to blame but yourself if you fall victim to an attack; particularly one that had its vulnerability patched months ago.
There are thousands upon thousands of people furiously blasting out rapidfire code to try and gain access to your shit. You need all the help you can get to keep these fuckwits at bay. Turn on your god damned updates.
"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
05/15/2017 at 16:01, STARS: 0
But someone somewhere has a critical software package that will only run on Windows XP.
"TheTurbochargedSquirrel" (thatsquirrel)
05/15/2017 at 16:03, STARS: 2
And Microsoft just pushed an anti ransomware patch to XP last week.
"itschrome" (itschrome)
05/15/2017 at 16:08, STARS: 1
that’s what KB4012598 is for bitches...
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
05/15/2017 at 16:08, STARS: 2
Hopefully they don’t have to run it from their personal computer
I’m not talking large corporations here - as a part of one, I totally understand the problem of legacy proprietary code that can only run on x . Though the fact that those companies’ security teams hadn’t pigeonholed the everloving fuck out of it surprises me, those are risks that many enterprises take
But your personal computer? Nah, man. If you need XP to run one application, use a VM. Or keep that old P3 machine around and boot it when necessary
You’re not an enterprise. You don’t have teams of professionals on your payroll dedicated keeping your fuckin’ HP Pavilion up to date. You have an operating system that you paid for once (or didn’t, I ain’t judge)
Update your shit
"itschrome" (itschrome)
05/15/2017 at 16:11, STARS: 3
seriously tho.. Also if lets say you did miss the roll up and your business goes down, if you lack a business continuity plan and have nothing backing up. You almost deserve what you get..
"deekster_caddy" (deekster_caddy)
05/15/2017 at 16:14, STARS: 2
Thing is, corporate users who are still using XP KNOW they are at risk and still use XP anyway. This was patched if you maintained the paid contract with MS for security updates for XP... but only for those corporations who paid up.
Home users who have XP still probably also don’t have backups are are doubly screwed.
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
05/15/2017 at 16:16, STARS: 0
I ain’t touchin’ corporate problems. That’s a can of worms you don’t want me in on ;)
"LOREM IPSUM" (lorem---ipsum)
05/15/2017 at 16:18, STARS: 0
I don’t even know why updates are even an option anymore, especially critical updates. They should take a cue from Android and force them out as soon as they’re available with no option to reject or delay them.
Yeah, sometimes an update will break something, and on the enterprise end of things that is less than ideal, but it would force vendors to keep their software suites up to date. At the end of the day it would be in all of our best interest, because your average user can’t be trusted to make the right choice when it comes to computers.
"facw" (facw)
05/15/2017 at 16:19, STARS: 1
Please note that extended support for Vista ended 4/11 (MS had announced this 5 years ago, so no pity for those caught unprepared, especially considering Vista is 10 years old).
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
05/15/2017 at 16:19, STARS: 2
Literally trying to get a Windows 7 image working right now, so I can run a virtual XP session, so I can run Microsoft Studio with C++ support, because this very expensive test equipment still requires C++.
But that machine is air gapped after a wipe, so no worries.
"facw" (facw)
05/15/2017 at 16:20, STARS: 1
And if you are using XP, you definitely should be paying that fee. If it’s not worth it to you, then it’s not worth staying on XP.
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
05/15/2017 at 16:22, STARS: 1
Anyway I can get updates w/o MS putting BING, Cortana and Edge shit back on my PC? Because it has a nasty habit of reasserting itself.
Seriously, though, if it’s a security update, just update the security, don’t touch my settings. Yes, I’m up to date, just grumpy.
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
05/15/2017 at 16:22, STARS: 3
Windows 10 has removed the option to opt-out for non-enterprise versions. This is a good move. It’s also why a lot of people didn’t upgrade because fuck you I do what I want MURRICUH MURRICAH bleh bleh
It’s all bleep bloop until you get fuckered by some blyat who just stole your credit card info because you never turned on ssl because you never got the vulnerability scan because you never updated your shit and now it’s Microsoft’s problem because It can’t be me even though I’m the one who pointed the gun straight at my foot
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
05/15/2017 at 16:22, STARS: 4
Bruh
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
05/15/2017 at 16:23, STARS: 1
However it ended after they patched EternalBlue :)
But you’re right, I flubbered up there. Edits incoming
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
05/15/2017 at 16:24, STARS: 0
Yanno, I don’t have an answer for you. I’m happy with Bing, Cortana and Edge
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
05/15/2017 at 16:26, STARS: 2
Is that your personal box? If so you need to clean your house because that shit naaaaasty
(I already said I ain’t touchin’ corporate concerns, for a damned good reason too)
"TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
05/15/2017 at 16:29, STARS: 0
Eh, the only windows machine I have is a Win 7 gaming rig which is up to date. (except for that win 10 upgrade shit, I removed that from the registry; ‘murica)
Everything else is various flavours of *nix and I made sure to remove anything Windows based from my parents house and give them Ubuntu.
"LOREM IPSUM" (lorem---ipsum)
05/15/2017 at 16:29, STARS: 0
They should probably remove the option for the rest of their os’ as well.
As far as xp is concerned, that’s a bit tougher. Since they’re not supporting it anymore, maybe they should force windows 7 down their throats, updates enabled or not. MS wouldn’t be losing out on revenue because anyone still running xp probably isn’t going to be buying a win10 license anytime soon for that machine. Forcing them onto an os which still is supported, yet antiquated, and removing their ability to decline updates, would stop this kind of crap in its tracks.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
05/15/2017 at 16:30, STARS: 0
Canadian Tire. I don’t think they’re hooked up to anything outside the store.
They’re starting to upgrade, but everything looks like it’s VM’d anyway. I’ve seen Ubuntu, 7 and Vista mainly. The checkouts though... they look like they’re still running some kiosk-flavor of Windows 98. Heck, it could be 95.
"TheTurbochargedSquirrel" (thatsquirrel)
05/15/2017 at 16:49, STARS: 0
I just ignore that stuff.
"Manwich - now Keto-Friendly" (manwich)
05/15/2017 at 18:12, STARS: 1
Your personal computer is an AS/400 (now known as the “i Series”)?
I bet you feel really superior with that EBCDIC code!!!
"Manwich - now Keto-Friendly" (manwich)
05/15/2017 at 18:14, STARS: 1
On my main personal computer, I use...
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
05/15/2017 at 18:54, STARS: 0
Maybe that’s why CT keeps them around
"Toby F., Manager" (itsmefromhr)
05/15/2017 at 19:15, STARS: 0
I took your advice and finally installed all my updates except for one, which you might be able to help me out with... I keep receiving an 800f0922 code for thr security update for windows 8.1. What should I do?
"FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com" (alphaass)
05/15/2017 at 22:07, STARS: 0
The other part of this that seems to be getting lost in all the noise is backups. Yes, you need to stay updated But if you have recent offline backups and you manage to get hit, you’re just out a few hours for a restore to come online instead of having to pay the ransom. I’m guessing the kinds of people/business that don’t patch probably overlap pretty strongly with the ones that never back anything up, though.
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
05/15/2017 at 22:41, STARS: 0
what’s the kb number?
"Toby F., Manager" (itsmefromhr)
05/15/2017 at 22:51, STARS: 0
3172729
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
05/15/2017 at 23:33, STARS: 0
A cursory Bing search shows it may be an incompatibility with UEFI firmware. Check to see if all your FW bits are up to date and update if necessary. Then try re-running the update.
Some have gotten around it by disabling UEFI, installing the update then turning UEFI back on.
"Toby F., Manager" (itsmefromhr)
05/16/2017 at 21:10, STARS: 0
Thank you. I don’t know what happened, but I got it to download somehow.
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
05/17/2017 at 10:38, STARS: 0
That’s good. Sometimes it does just take a few tries to convince it