NPoCP Taco Tax Edition

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Published 05/13/2017 at 00:34

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So I’m cruising CL for something for one of my kids, thinking mid-2000's mini truck for $3-5k. I’ve been avoiding Tacomas because, well, the sellers are generally out of their freaking minds. Am I missing something here?

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Kinja'd!!! "HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
05/13/2017 at 00:37, STARS: 1

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Kinja'd!!! "FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com" (alphaass)
05/13/2017 at 00:56, STARS: 0

It’s not the sellers, it’s the buyers. That price is probably a little high. But not outrageous. As long as people keep seeing old Tacomas as these mythically reliable machines compared to an S10/Ranger/Hardbody they will continue to command premiums. As an aside, the forgotten gem in the mid-2000's truck scene is the Sport Trac. They are much better trucks than people give them credit for and can even be had in a manual, though they are rare. You can find clean first generations in that price range all day long.

Kinja'd!!! "sony1492" (sony1492)
05/13/2017 at 01:21, STARS: 1

://humboldt.craigslist.org/cto/6123098872.html

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$7000, 1998 180,000 miles. And the fact that someone will most likely pay something close to that price.

Kinja'd!!! "Amoore100" (amoore100)
05/13/2017 at 02:51, STARS: 0

Oddly enough, I’ve also found the Ridgeline tax to be a thing. Around here they’re a good five to ten grand more expensive than a Odyssey or Pilot of the same generation and condition. I guess it’s “rare”?

Kinja'd!!! "shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
05/13/2017 at 07:49, STARS: 2

Anything with a pickup bed commands more money. I can get way more for my ‘06 Sierra than I could if it was a Suburban or a Tahoe, even though mine is a 2wd base model with the small motor, simply because it has a pickup bed on the back.

Kinja'd!!! "Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
05/13/2017 at 08:35, STARS: 0

Those old Hardbodies were pretty ridiculously reliable. Their problem (as with the Tacoma and pretty much everything Japanese of this vintage) was rust.

The only reason I can imagine for the lack of resale value of the Ranger is that they made so many of them and they looked almost the same for decades. They did something like 20 years with the same sheet metal. Most of the drivetrains are exceptionally reliable, the parts are cheap, etc. They’re almost invisible on the road because there are just that many of them.

Kinja'd!!! "FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com" (alphaass)
05/13/2017 at 09:44, STARS: 0

Edit: TL;DR I said pretty much the same thing you did and just started typing while I was eating breakfast without realizing how much I was rambling sorry.

Like I said, as long as the Tacoma is seen as mythically reliable. Is it more reliable than the alteratives? Probably. Are the others somehow crapboxes that constantly break down. Nope. They are all pretty good. On my CL I regularly see S10's and Hardbodys with over 300k miles. S10's have issues with interior parts and engine accessories like fuel pumps and starters but the main engine and chassis are pretty solid. Rangers can be a mixed bag. We have one at work that is constantly having some sort of issue, but it can basically be fixed in a parking lot with a flathead screwdriver and a crescent wrench. They are stupidly easy to work on and parts are cheap. My neighbor recently replaced his Ranger’s clutch in the street in front of his house with a single floor jack and a few hand tools. And yeah there is an endless supply of them which keeps prices low - they were also pretty cheap to begin with compared to a Taco. I remember reading the newspaper in the morning before high school in the late 90's. Local dealers always had these big banner ads in the back of the sports section and a regular cab 2WD 4-cyl Ranger would be shown next to a Chevy Metro on $99/mo. lease specials or $8999 to purchase as the cheapest new vehicle in the US. So yeah they’re gonna have low resale, but that doesn’t mean they are bad.

Just on a personal level, though, if I was looking for a truck for my high school aged kid in the $3-5k range, I’d probably be looking exclusively at Sport Tracs. Right now I’m still 9 years from car shopping for my daughter and hoping she grows out of her Wrangler obsession, because based on the stupidity we did in Wranglers when I was 16 I’m not sure I want to give one to my own kid haha.

Kinja'd!!! "LastFirstMI is my name" (donstone13)
05/13/2017 at 10:51, STARS: 1

Oh yeah, supply and demand. I guess it is the buyers that are insane, not the sellers. The SportTrac is a good idea, I actually like that body style!

Kinja'd!!! "Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero" (sampsonite24)
05/13/2017 at 16:57, STARS: 0

This. The sellers keep listing at those prices cause they know it’ll sell