World War III has Begun

Kinja'd!!! by "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
Published 05/12/2017 at 12:39

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I’m calling it.

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Kinja'd!!! "Mercedes Streeter" (smart)
05/12/2017 at 12:42, STARS: 0

Wait, what? Are you serious? Should I be scared? :O

Kinja'd!!! "itschrome" (itschrome)
05/12/2017 at 12:42, STARS: 1

what? no... you have the best post apocalyptic ride.. well based on a movie I watched once any ways... You’re fine..

Kinja'd!!! "ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
05/12/2017 at 12:43, STARS: 0

Wut?

Kinja'd!!! "Mercedes Streeter" (smart)
05/12/2017 at 12:44, STARS: 1

I should finish my offroad project like immediately then!

Kinja'd!!! "EL_ULY" (uly)
05/12/2017 at 12:45, STARS: 3

Kinja'd!!!

Kinja'd!!! "itschrome" (itschrome)
05/12/2017 at 12:46, STARS: 0

yeah I dunno what your waiting for..

Kinja'd!!! "K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390)
05/12/2017 at 12:46, STARS: 0

Context?

Kinja'd!!! "itschrome" (itschrome)
05/12/2017 at 12:46, STARS: 0

based on what?

Kinja'd!!! "Mercedes Streeter" (smart)
05/12/2017 at 12:46, STARS: 0

Payday next week xD

Kinja'd!!! "Ash78, voting early and often" (ash78)
05/12/2017 at 12:46, STARS: 4

World War ill? Has anyone alerted the two remaining Beastie Boys and Sir Mix-A-Lot?

Kinja'd!!! "itschrome" (itschrome)
05/12/2017 at 12:52, STARS: 0

let’s hope O.C. the Tork Dorque isn’t right and next week still comes!

Kinja'd!!! "Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap" (ddadragon)
05/12/2017 at 12:53, STARS: 0

I mean yeah. If not yet we’re collectively teetering on the edge.

Kinja'd!!! "TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
05/12/2017 at 12:54, STARS: 1

I don’t think Colbert making fun of Trumplestiltakin consitutes WW3, maybe a minor skirmish at best.

Kinja'd!!! "djmt1" (djmt1)
05/12/2017 at 12:56, STARS: 1

I’m gonna assume this is about the government hacking going on right now. On that note, who the hell shuts down a hospital. How broken is your moral compass to even think that’s okay on any level.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 12:58, STARS: 0

We probably ought to be concerned. It’s a cyber war.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 12:59, STARS: 0

Blend ISIS with mad propeller head skills and voila .

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 12:59, STARS: 0

Cyber war.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 13:00, STARS: 0

You mean tweetering on the edge? Russia’s diabolicals and Trump’s narcissism are a perfect storm.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 13:01, STARS: 0

Cyber attack on 14 hospitals in England.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 13:01, STARS: 0

Cyber attack on 14 hospitals in England.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 13:02, STARS: 0

My original post got Kinja’d, naturally.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxDb18nQAakaaEFWbGlRV3VJd2M

Kinja'd!!! "itschrome" (itschrome)
05/12/2017 at 13:02, STARS: 1

eh, probably just big pharma. hahaha

Kinja'd!!! "TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
05/12/2017 at 13:04, STARS: 3

Doubtful, the UK attack is just more visual than normal. If WW3 cyber and or real war was starting, our internet infastructure would be under attack, not just hospitals. And it would focus on buffer countries like Poland.

This is a hacker group making a name for itself.

Kinja'd!!! "TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
05/12/2017 at 13:06, STARS: 2

Also an Anonymous leading pick? Lol, they’re 99.98% script kiddies trying to ride the coattails of maybe 15 actual hackers.

Kinja'd!!! "SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
05/12/2017 at 13:13, STARS: 1

The amount of laughter that just erupted at my desk was probably more disruptive than a lockout virus.

Kinja'd!!! "Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap" (ddadragon)
05/12/2017 at 13:22, STARS: 0

Oh good one. Yeah his ego is going to do a lot of damage.

Kinja'd!!! "AuthiCooper1300" (rexrod)
05/12/2017 at 13:30, STARS: 0

It seems it is more serious than previously thought (the following according to the BBC website)

A massive ransomware campaign appears to have infected a number of organisations around the world.

Screenshots of a well known program that locks computers and demands a payment in Bitcoin have been shared online by parties claiming to be affected.

There have been reports of infections in the UK, US, China, Russia, Spain, Italy, Vietnam, Taiwan and others.

Security researchers are linking the incidents together.

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This could end up being no laughing matter. At all.

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
05/12/2017 at 13:32, STARS: 1

You’re a little late. We’ve been fighting the GLOBAL WAR on Terror since 2001. World War III doesn’t look like WWII just like WWII didn’t look like WWI. If you haven’t read it, I highly recommend the book Brave New War by John Robb. It was written in 2007 and pretty much outlines everything that is now happening.

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
05/12/2017 at 13:34, STARS: 0

OC got ahold of some bad grass this morning, no need to panic.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 13:34, STARS: 0

Good clickbait, though. I think the opening skirmishes have already taken place and we’ll be getting some real terrorism resulting on nuke plant meltdowns and such. It may be more James Bond villain that state villain, but I think it’s under way.

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
05/12/2017 at 13:34, STARS: 1

Did this just turn into a Beastie Boys thread?

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Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 13:35, STARS: 0

Glad I could help.

Kinja'd!!! "Ash78, voting early and often" (ash78)
05/12/2017 at 13:35, STARS: 1

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Sure. Here’s some mashed potatoes.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 13:36, STARS: 0

I think a reasonable person could argue that it already has.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 13:37, STARS: 0

That’s sort of what I was getting at. WWIII, warlord style.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 13:40, STARS: 0

WWIII, warlord style. Mix ISIS, Putin and Trump, with some Li’l Fat Kim thrown in as a wild card. Next up: nuclear power plant meltdown.

Kinja'd!!! "Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap" (ddadragon)
05/12/2017 at 13:45, STARS: 1

Fair point.

Kinja'd!!! "Svend" (svend)
05/12/2017 at 13:47, STARS: 0

Some British hospitals have been affected.

If you really want someone to come after you then this is how you get them to. A very stupid idea.

Governments will chase them down, other hackers will hang them out to dry for it.

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
05/12/2017 at 13:55, STARS: 1

I and 5 million other people live down wind from a nuclear power plant that was built in the middle of the desert and has to have water brought in for cooling...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Verde_Nuclear_Generating_Station

Good thing I know where to go when the fallout hits the fan. Can’t say the same for everyone else.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 14:00, STARS: 0

Unless they are government actors themselves. I’m worried about ISIS hooking up with some hackers and melting down a nuclear reactor somewhere.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 14:01, STARS: 0

But how long can you stay there?

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
05/12/2017 at 14:04, STARS: 0

Forever if I wanted to.

Kinja'd!!! "Svend" (svend)
05/12/2017 at 14:08, STARS: 1

Hacking hospitals is completely despicable.

Kinja'd!!! "TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
05/12/2017 at 14:17, STARS: 1

Yeah, not so much. Activity isn’t any higher than normal, you’re just more aware of it right now.

Kinja'd!!! "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/12/2017 at 14:32, STARS: 0

You may be in a better position to realize this than I am. I am concerned.

Kinja'd!!! "TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
05/12/2017 at 15:32, STARS: 0

Enjoy.

http://map.norsecorp.com/#/

Kinja'd!!! "Viggen" (viggen37)
05/12/2017 at 16:38, STARS: 0

lol

Kinja'd!!! "Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
05/12/2017 at 16:51, STARS: 1

So not afraid of anything.

Hell, it’d probably be money for me.

Kinja'd!!! "Axial" (axial)
05/12/2017 at 21:28, STARS: 0

WW II actually did look a lot like WW I. The 1918 actions were basically the same things you got in all of WW II, but with less sophisticated gear.

On top of that, you had the same actors on mostly the same sides using very similar equipment, some of it even exactly the same.

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
05/13/2017 at 01:20, STARS: 0

WWI was largely characterized by trench warfare and was started as result of 18th-19th century politics and empires. The biggest technological shift was the machine gun. Armies were still conducting large scale cavalry raids.

WWII resulted from nationalism resulting from the collapsed of various European empires and saw for the first time (other than the Spanish Civil War) the widespread use of aircraft to level cities. It also ended with in nuclear warfare.

WWII was nothing like WWI.

Kinja'd!!! "Axial" (axial)
05/13/2017 at 03:37, STARS: 0

The cause of the war is not what we are discussing. We are discussing the way in which it was fought. The later stages of the war were absolutely like World War II, especially once the Germans started deploying stormtroopers. The Hundred Day Offensive was very much like a World War II action, with full coordinated combined arms engagements.

You have only an elementary understanding of the war if you think it was just trenches and stupid cavalry actions. I recommend listening to Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History podcast on the subject.

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
05/13/2017 at 10:43, STARS: 0

Firstly, Dan Carlin is just a radio host. He’s not a historian and holds no degrees on the subject. While he is entertaining, he is not a good source for historical knowledge. Just because I don’t agree with you doesn’t mean I don’t know what I’m talking about.

While the battles of the Hundred Day Offensive broke the trench based stalemate seen throughout the war, they were all still very much examples of 2nd generation warfare, and thus nothing like the 3rd generation warfare seen in WWII.

Saying they’re similar because they used “full coordinated combined arms engagements” is laughable, as armies have done this since antiquity and shows a lack of knowedge in regards to the history of warfare.

Kinja'd!!! "Axial" (axial)
05/13/2017 at 15:40, STARS: 0

Dan Carlin is indeed a radio host, and he never claimed to be a historian, but he does use and cite the works of many historians in his presentation. If you want a concentrated dose of knowledge on World War I, it’s a very solid source. You can always follow up on your own if something specific intrigues you.

Also, it’s which arms were combined and the specific ways in which they were combined. The technologies and techniques developed for and deployed during the Hundred Days Offensive (and indeed, some as early as 1916) were the same ones that would be deployed over 20 years later, made more lethal by the greater proliferation of radio coordination and generally superior equipment. Also practice. That isn’t a fundamental shift, and to claim otherwise is missing the forest for the trees. It really doesn’t matter at all if we’re talking about T.F.1s, FT17s, and Lewis Guns in 1918 versus P47s, Shermans, and M1918 BARs in 1944...or even A10s, M1A1s, and M249 SAWs today; the concepts behind them and their usage is the same. Excepting the strategic effect of nuclear threat, there has been no core change to the way wars are fought and the available pieces are used in the last century or so. Even computers and satellites are little more than force multipliers augmenting tactics first developed and deployed in WW I. That is the entire reason why WW I is such an important point in the history of warfare.

So, the only thing laughable here is your ability to put the system together; I shouldn’t have to spell any of this out for you...unless you really don’t know what you are talking about. Certainly, a good portion of WW I did not look like WW II. The last part of it most definitely did, to an uncanny degree.

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
05/13/2017 at 16:15, STARS: 0

It is pretty clear you are wholly unfamiliar with the generations of warfare which makes this convo pretty pointless. If your really interested in the history of warfare I would highly recommend researching the subject. Also check out Brave New War which gives a decent summary but mostly focuses on fourth generation warfare.

 Practice has been the main driving force behind the shifts from 2nd to 3rd and now to 4th generation warfare.

As you stated WWI was important because it showed militaries that their tactics had to change.  Those changes were first experimented with by the Germans during the Spanish Civil War (the first use of the blitz) and then put into wide spread practice in WWII. The armies that continued the techniques of WWI (the Poles) quickly found that the old strategies wouldn’t work. WWII ended with urban and nuclear warfare. It was nothing like WWI.

Kinja'd!!! "Axial" (axial)
05/13/2017 at 22:15, STARS: 0

I am not unfamiliar with it, I just recognize it to be a fundamentally flawed framework to work within. It swaps from using technological impetus to define break points in how peer states fought each other to an explaining the economical reasons of why and how a lesser power fights a greater one. It’s a non-like comparison and invalid. And even the first three generations are ascribing the generational gap to changes in the technology and how they either enable or shelve tactical applications that have been around since antiquity rather than how they transformed the requirements for war to be conducted between peer-states. That is to say, the cost of peer states waging total war is what has changed, driven by the development of gunpowder, breach-loading rifles, high explosives, automatic weapons, aircraft, and what we would today call weapons of mass destruction (i.e. nuclear weapons, biological weapons). There has been nothing so fundamentally new since the changes caused by the introduction of WMDs, except perhaps the internet. We have yet to see what changes the internet will truly have.

At any rate, you are using even that flawed framework too rigidly. The very things used to define third generation were developed and deployed during WW I, especially in 1918, which is the root of my comment. Urban warfare was present in WW I, making it a very weak point to use as a delineator; it would have gone into Paris or Berlin beyond a shadow of a doubt had either side gotten that far. The aerial bombing of cities that was a major hallmark of WW II would have also been conducted had the aircraft at the time been capable. The Germans did try it with Zeppelins, but hadn’t really refined the idea into attacking logistical infrastructure rather than morale (not that some WW II bombings weren’t also expressly conducted to attack morale, mind you) and the payloads were pitiful. But, what matters is that they were aware of the tactics and deploying them, not that they had refined it to a science yet. Nuclear warfare is the only real marker of generational change in WW II, and you could maybe argue that it makes WW II stand apart. But, from where I sit, it was merely the signal to end the conflict rather than a way of fighting that defined a significant portion of that war and, indeed, there was plenty of action in WWII that bore more than a passing resemblance to action in mid-late WWI.

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
05/13/2017 at 23:49, STARS: 0

Uhhhh, WMDs is a fake term created by the Bush administration. You’re out of your element here, Donny.

Kinja'd!!! "Axial" (axial)
05/13/2017 at 23:54, STARS: 0

It’s not.

You lose.

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
05/14/2017 at 00:47, STARS: 0

That’s the exact mentality I’d expect from someone who received their education from radio show hosts and Wikipedia.

Kinja'd!!! "Axial" (axial)
05/14/2017 at 01:19, STARS: 0

I very much doubt you had the capacity for that.