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Kinja'd!!! by "RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
Published 05/03/2017 at 15:26

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As you’d expect, runway maintenance doesn’t always measure up - a DeHavilland Vampire * launching pieces of runway into the air * at a meet in Wolverhampton.


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Kinja'd!!! "WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
05/03/2017 at 15:36, STARS: 2

That’s a pretty bad runway. Glad that the Vampire came away unscathed, at least. The comment about the aircraft being 5 degrees nose up on the ground is a little odd, to me. At rotation, most aircraft will have more nose up than that. For a shorter distance, but you’d think that other jets would be tearing up the runway at the liftoff point.

Kinja'd!!! "user314" (user314)
05/03/2017 at 15:38, STARS: 6

Kinja'd!!!

Kinja'd!!! "wafflesnfalafel" (wafflesnfalafel1)
05/03/2017 at 15:40, STARS: 3

that is super cool - and honestly could have saved others damage or potential injury if that pavement had failed at some point in the future.

Kinja'd!!! "WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
05/03/2017 at 15:48, STARS: 3

But what if the runway *is* the FOD? :)

Kinja'd!!! "ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
05/03/2017 at 16:00, STARS: 1

The nozzle is also very close to the ground. I can’t state this for a fact, but aircraft of that generation may well have had the engine pointed slightly downward to help get the heavy plane into the air. Nothing about that specifically in the Wiki, but it does say that the plane couldn’t spend long idling because the exhaust being so close to the ground would melt the tarmac. So, a combination of ancient runway and low nozzle gave us this show.

Kinja'd!!! "ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
05/03/2017 at 16:01, STARS: 0

That’s awesome. Thanks. Very low nozzle, poor runway, maybe even a slight down angle on the engine, all add up to the Vamp blowing chunks.

Kinja'd!!! "WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
05/03/2017 at 16:10, STARS: 1

The low nozzle must be a critical factor, then, too. I imagine that the entire aircraft sits tail-low on the ground, which appears to be the case from the photos.

Kinja'd!!! "RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
05/03/2017 at 16:33, STARS: 0

Low and downward-angled nozzles were very much a thing, and in the case of the Douglas Skyknight, that and FOD issues kept it a prepared surface Marine Corps aircraft only. Other Korean War era jets sometimes set the teak decks on fire. Speaking of which, I was watching Magnum Force last night (one of the Dirty Harry movies), and I had *completely forgotten* that the final scene is a chase over a pair of WWII-end CVEs!

Oddly, it doesn’t seem to be all that clear *which* CVEs tied up for scrapping they are. Popular lore indicates they’re the Rabaul and the Badoeng Strait (the “Bing Ding”, which had a career off of Korea), but while Rabaul was clearly owned by and being scrapped by that company at that time, “Bing Ding” was supposedly owned/being scrapped several hundred miles north. There are several other CVEs that were being scrapped in the port at that time, but not by the same agent, so the identity of the second ship is not 100% certain.

I wonder if enough burn marks would exist on Bing Ding to play a role in ID...

Kinja'd!!! "RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
05/03/2017 at 16:35, STARS: 1

BARF. Or to Groucho Marx it, “I’ve heard of belching fire but this is ridiculous.”

Kinja'd!!! "ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
05/03/2017 at 16:51, STARS: 1

“A nan’s got to know his limitations.” The IMDB trivia section might have some info.

Kinja'd!!! "RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
05/03/2017 at 16:57, STARS: 1

Well, that’s just the thing. The IMDB trivia section lists the carriers as Bing Ding and Rabaul , but doesn’t provide a source.

Kinja'd!!! " The Compromiser" (charger)
05/03/2017 at 18:36, STARS: 1

I saw one of these at a local War plane Museum (Hamilton, Ontario ). They have a row of unrestored and waiting aircraft. They are truly ground hugging. I was taller than the canopy! I swear it was on it’s wheels, but maybe not.