The catch-22 of attempting to move provinces

Kinja'd!!! by "CB" (jrcb)
Published 04/24/2017 at 15:58

Tags: Personal Problems
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It’s difficult as all hell to try and find a job while living in a different province, but it’s also reckless to just move and then try to find a job. Should I throw caution into the wind or do I keep applying and hope someone gives me a chance?


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Kinja'd!!! "Chuckles" (chucklesw37)
04/24/2017 at 16:15, STARS: 0

I guess it depends on a few factors. Why do you want to move? How crucial is it that you get out of your current situation? Do you have a specific type of job in mind or will you take any minimum wage job? Do you have enough money saved up to pay all of your bills in the new place for 6 months?

My vote is move now if you have to, but if it can wait just apply online to every job imaginable and don’t leave until you find something.

Kinja'd!!! "Mercedes Streeter" (smart)
04/24/2017 at 16:17, STARS: 1

Ya know, Miss Tesla and I have this same question.

We have this doomsday scenario where if our mere existence would be functionally illegal (not far-fetched in today’s world), we would try to move to Canada. But how would that even work in any realistic manner?

Kinja'd!!! "CB" (jrcb)
04/24/2017 at 16:30, STARS: 1

Toronto is too expensive and I’m unhappy here, and I have enough for six months. I can do minimum wage, but I’m trying to get something better paying.

I’ll likely hold off for a bit longer, but I want to move by the end of the summer.

Kinja'd!!! "MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s" (mastermario)
04/24/2017 at 16:33, STARS: 2

I hope you have some kind of degree that Canada finds useful...otherwise I hear gaining a work visa and (eventually) citizenship is kind of tough (not that I’m an expert on these things)

Kinja'd!!! "Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein)
04/24/2017 at 16:35, STARS: 6

Pro tip from someone with over a decade in staffing experience:

If you apply for a job in an area outside of where you live, you need to make it abundantly clear why you’re applying for the job.

Most people hiring in Saskatchewan if they see a resume from someone in Quebec will be like, “well my job is in Saskatchewan, not Quebec, and I don’t feel like calling them to find out what their relocation plans are and whether they expect me to pay to relocate them.”

On your resume, right at the top below your contact info, put another line that says “Planning to relocate to Regina Saskatchewan” or wherever it is you’re planning to move.

In your cover letter, explain why you’re planning to move and specify that you don’t need relocation assistance.

If you do these things you will get a much higher response rate.

Kinja'd!!! "CB" (jrcb)
04/24/2017 at 16:47, STARS: 0

Thanks for the tip! I greatly appreciate it.

Kinja'd!!! "Future next gen S2000 owner" (future-next-gen-s2000-owner)
04/24/2017 at 16:54, STARS: 0

Throw caution to the wind and move.

Kinja'd!!! "CB" (jrcb)
04/24/2017 at 16:57, STARS: 0

My heart says yes, but my brain says that’s not the best plan.

Kinja'd!!! "Mercedes Streeter" (smart)
04/24/2017 at 16:58, STARS: 0

That is true. Miss Tesla was thinking going in as a Rainbow Refugee, but even that opens a whole ‘nuther can of worms.

Kinja'd!!! "Future next gen S2000 owner" (future-next-gen-s2000-owner)
04/24/2017 at 17:01, STARS: 1

You only live once. People figure out a way to survive and life moves on. It’s usually never as bad as you think it will be.

Kinja'd!!! "Chuckles" (chucklesw37)
04/24/2017 at 18:35, STARS: 1

You’ve gotten some good advice here. If there isn’t much holding you in place (mortgage, children, etc) then go for it. It will never get easier. Just make sure you’ve devoted enough time to exploring all of your job options first. Life can be a lot less stressful with a job good enough to at least provide food and rent.

Kinja'd!!! "Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein)
04/24/2017 at 19:14, STARS: 0

In the US, Canadians can get a TN work visa sponsored by their US-based employer if they have an offer of employment. It’s part of NAFTA. I’m sure there’s an equivalent in Canada for US citizens. You’d need to have some kind of job that an employer in Canada wants to jump through the hoops of sponsoring the visa for you.

It’s not as difficult for employers to do as the H1B skilled worker visas here in the US where the employer has to “prove” that they tried and failed to fill their skilled position with a US citizen. How exactly they do this is very much open to interpretation.

To get the NAFTA visa you don’t need to make this case, but you do need to have a company that’s interested enough in you as a candidate to sponsor the visa on your behalf.

Unless of course NAFTA gets blown up by the same forces that would be motivating you to move to Canada, then things would be more difficult.

Kinja'd!!! "Manwich - now Keto-Friendly" (manwich)
04/24/2017 at 19:22, STARS: 0

Moving costs money.

Get the job first and then move close to the job.

Kinja'd!!! "Manwich - now Keto-Friendly" (manwich)
04/24/2017 at 19:31, STARS: 0

I currently live in Toronto... but have lived outside of Toronto as well.

What I found is that while real estate is more expensive, you can mitigate that by not owning a car.

I personally know people who live in “cheaper” places and as a result, have long commutes.

The result is that they actually end up with less money because they’re spending far more on transportation... and not just to and from work (my kids walk or take one bus to school). Also taking their kids to school and having to pay to have their kids in residence.

And rural/suburban living gets even more expensive later when every family member needs a car to get around.

Anyway, as I said before, get the job first and follow the money.

For better affordability and being able to find work, I suggest checking out opportunities in Hamilton.

Living in Hamilton means you can still take the GO train back into Toronto if you ever want to.

And ideally, once you find a job, get a place that is walking distance from your job.

Kinja'd!!! "gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
04/24/2017 at 19:55, STARS: 0

I kinda did that a couple years back. About six weeks after I couldn’t come back to school I hit kijiji for places to rent (well, roommate situations) and set up a bunch of appointments to see people because I had a work-related (I’m seasonal summers, this was fall so arguably I was unemployed) thing in Stoon. I picked a place that was at the top of my affordability bracket but had everything I wanted. I moved in a week later, and after two weeks of dropping off resumes I walked into Partsource at the right (or wrong) moment, and pretty much got hired on the spot. Not good wage but full time so it barely covered the bills and didn’t leave me much opportunity for finding other, better jobs.

I’ve since discovered that I don’t really need a garage, although it’s nice, and probably should’ve taken the place with the toxicology grad student from WA that was on the right side of town for my eventual job at $150 less per month. She was cute, too. But that extra money would’ve meant I was actually fixing things that broke on the Niva instead of using chewing gum to seal my clutch reservoir lines and not actually taking advantage of the garage.

Saskatoon has had housing issues, although if you’re looking at stuff outside the university term start dates you’re less likely to get turned down in my mind, as people would be less undesperate to find roommates. Although you’d also have less options.

Moving is expensive. If you’re pickier about where you work you should probably plan for a couple months without a job instead of a couple weeks.

Kinja'd!!! "CB" (jrcb)
04/24/2017 at 20:52, STARS: 0

I’ve crunched the numbers on moving. Should be able to do it. But yeah, job first seems to be the smart route.

Kinja'd!!! "CB" (jrcb)
04/24/2017 at 20:53, STARS: 0

I’ve crunched the numbers, as you know, and have a place to stay. Just need the job. Thanka for the advice!

Kinja'd!!! "pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
04/25/2017 at 06:43, STARS: 0

just move.

you’ll find work soon enough.