by "KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
Published 04/21/2017 at 11:24
by "KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
Published 04/21/2017 at 11:24
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I think so. I’m considering trading my Mini for a Camaro SS 1LE. Because track car, that’s why. Should I do it?
"CB" (jrcb)
04/21/2017 at 11:27, STARS: 12
If you’re looking for sound advice, you came to the wrong place.
"Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif" (lumpy44)
04/21/2017 at 11:28, STARS: 0
And then you should let me drive it!
"AddictedToM3s - Drives a GC" (addictedtom3s)
04/21/2017 at 11:28, STARS: 2
If you can afford the extra gas, insurance and payments then I don’t see why not. The car isn’t that unpractical. It has a trunk and a roof. Hell it might even be roomier than the mini.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
04/21/2017 at 11:30, STARS: 2
No and yes. The Mini doesn’t have enough cylinders
"vondon302" (vondon302)
04/21/2017 at 11:33, STARS: 2
Well yes of course. That 1le is a performance bargain and I’m a Mustang guy.
"KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
04/21/2017 at 11:33, STARS: 2
Like how Chicago can’t score enough goals.
Washington delenda est
"Scary__goongala!" (corymagee)
04/21/2017 at 11:35, STARS: 0
If you can afford it, why not?
"awmaster10" (awmaster10)
04/21/2017 at 11:37, STARS: 0
You should get a used 1ss 6th gen and do some basic suspension work. Way cheaper and will still feel like a rocket compared to your mini. An ATS-V would be a great choice too since they apparently feel lighter.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
04/21/2017 at 11:45, STARS: 2
Washington delenda est
this
"WRXforScience" (WRXforScience)
04/21/2017 at 11:50, STARS: 4
First, do you currently do trackdays? If no, a high powered and heavy muscle car is a bad idea for a first track car.
If you already regularly go to the track you already know that you have to be willing to write off anything you bring to the track and a new Camaro isn’t exactly cheap. You also already know that high horsepower and heavy cars chew through consumables at an astonishing rate. Heavier cars go through tires and brakes at an alarming rate and those parts have to be bigger and are more expensive than the same parts for a smaller car.
There are great reasons why dedicated track cars are older, lighter, lower horsepower vehicles.
I went through 4 sets of tires last year, if I had a Camaro instead of a BRZ I would have had to spend more than twice as much on tires alone (tires are usually the biggest cost at the track unless you buy some armco). I know a number of guys who have a blast tracking their Minis (even a couple with the 3 cylinder slow mobile), and they can fit a second set of track tires in the back of the Mini.
Spend the money on seat time instead.
"Bourbon&JellyBeans" (bourbonandjellybeans)
04/21/2017 at 11:57, STARS: 0
Crazy like a fox.
"Bourbon&JellyBeans" (bourbonandjellybeans)
04/21/2017 at 11:58, STARS: 1
Not enough rusty, brown, manual, diesel Volvo P1800 wagon up in here, am I rite?
"Vicente Esteve" (vicente-esteve)
04/21/2017 at 12:03, STARS: 0
No, you aren’t insane.
"jasmits" (jasmits)
04/21/2017 at 12:05, STARS: 0
I’ve never really been a fan of Camaros, especially the newer ones but fuck if the 1LE isn’t a bargain
"BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo" (bluemazda2)
04/21/2017 at 12:09, STARS: 0
As someone who strictly provides stupid automotive advice, the answer will always be F56 Cooper S or Cooper S JCW. As stupid as it sounds, I’d rather have either than any Camaro. Or Chevrolet in general. Sure they’re expensive, but you usually don’t buy a Mini because it’s great value for money, you buy it because you want it. The new Cooper S and JCW are absolute rockets. I’d check one of those out if I were you.
If you really like the Camaro, though, I’d say go for it if you like it. The new Camaro and Mustang are both extremely appealing to me. Especially the Mustang.
"TheD0k_2many toys 2little time" (thed0ck)
04/21/2017 at 12:10, STARS: 0
i mean you want a mustang but yea do it
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
04/21/2017 at 12:11, STARS: 1
Your Mustang card — it’s just been revoked.
!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
04/21/2017 at 12:11, STARS: 2
No, OP wants a new Camaro, not an old Mustang.
"vondon302" (vondon302)
04/21/2017 at 12:22, STARS: 0
Truth is truth. Besides they took that away when I started working at FCA.
"StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8" (stndibnz1)
04/21/2017 at 12:24, STARS: 0
Simple answer, yes.
"KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
04/21/2017 at 12:28, STARS: 1
I’ve already done track days in my Audi S4, BMW Z4, and the Mini for the last three years (In other words, leavemealoneiknowwhatimdoing blipshift shirts are applicable:) ). The Audi gets most of the seat time, but that’s because it’s already been beat to death (on R compounds, no less). It also has a stripped interior and is slated to get bars and seats (needs moar harness).
The BMW has gone through about 3 sets of Michelin PSSes on track. I don’t feel a need to do much more with it. It’s good for what it is, and it’s a bit less threatening to practice adjusting the car’s trajectory with the throttle.
I’m also in a position that I can be choosy with what tracks I take cars to (e.g. I won’t take a brand new Camaro to Road Atlanta, especially with the camber change in T2 uphill, and T12...)
So yeah, I already spend a couple thousand dollars a year on seat time, and have done so for a few years.
Not saying that your advice isn’t good advice (because it actually is, and is what I have counseled true novice drivers with before), but that it has limited applicability the more seat time that you have under your belt.
"KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
04/21/2017 at 12:32, STARS: 0
I don’t like the looks on the Mustang, and I’m not buying a GT350, so unfortunately for Blue Oval Land, the Bowtie guys have a better bang for the buck right now.
"KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
04/21/2017 at 12:33, STARS: 1
I currently drive an R55 S. I’m not exactly a fan of what BMW has done with the interiors (Where’s my huge ass speedometer???), so I’m branching out.
"KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
04/21/2017 at 12:34, STARS: 1
You are dangerously close to being Dr. Cox-ed.
"KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
04/21/2017 at 12:41, STARS: 1
There are certain Swedes that are very good looking. Examples of me gusta :
The Volvo P1800? No me gusta . It just doesn’t do anything for me.
"PatBateman" (PatBateman)
04/21/2017 at 12:55, STARS: 2
Get it.
Track it.
Video it.
Post it.
Do it. NOW.
"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
04/21/2017 at 13:58, STARS: 1
DOOO EEEEEEETT!!!
"Bourbon&JellyBeans" (bourbonandjellybeans)
04/21/2017 at 14:20, STARS: 0
Is it because the P1800 doesn’t have a razor-sharp jawline and a piercing gaze?
"WRXforScience" (WRXforScience)
04/21/2017 at 14:25, STARS: 2
You fall into the go for it category then.
You’ll be the fastest guy in a Camaro (I’ve only ever seen one fast Camaro, don’t know why) and have a legitimate shot at being the fastest guy at the track. Tires will suck, but you’ve got the cash (I’m jealous).
The SS 1LE is a monster, I’d personally probably go with a slightly used Corvette but that’s just down to personal preference since the new Camaro is on such a good chasis.
You’re living the dream.
"KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
04/21/2017 at 14:54, STARS: 0
I also have to leave something to move up to. :)
We’ve had a few ATSes out at AMP at one of our events. The buzz is that the Alpha platform is very well sorted out and is even more solid than the Mustang.
The fact that GM gives you a power boost and more capability than the Mustang GT for the same money (about $46K) kind of seals this one for the bowtie boys.
"KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
04/21/2017 at 14:59, STARS: 0
Volvos are supposed to be bricks. Sharp creases, and stops just about anything. It’s just part of the gestalt of Sweden.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
04/21/2017 at 17:27, STARS: 0
DO IT!
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
04/21/2017 at 18:45, STARS: 0
I think it’s more that the answer to ‘should I do it’ is pretty much always yes around here. The worse the idea, the greater the support.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
04/21/2017 at 18:51, STARS: 1
If it weren’t for well-nurtured spite toward all things VAG at this point, you could buy a crate engine and stick it in the Audi instead. Of course, small jobs hauling can now be handled by the truck, but the Mini *is* both more practical and less practical than a Camaro at the same time. Which is hard.
Also, Camaros are like pillboxes that can only accommodate nerf guns. Solid, but hard to do anything but taunt the enemy from.
"yamahog" (yamahog)
04/21/2017 at 21:03, STARS: 2
do eeet
"KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
04/21/2017 at 23:12, STARS: 0
It’s a really fast and grippy pillbox though.
"TheD0k_2many toys 2little time" (thed0ck)
04/22/2017 at 03:39, STARS: 0
Miata+LS swap?
"KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei)
04/22/2017 at 08:45, STARS: 0
I’d rather put an S54 in my existing BMW if I wanted to do that.
But I don’t, so I won’t.