by "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
Published 04/15/2017 at 20:53
by "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
Published 04/15/2017 at 20:53
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"Flavien Vidal" (flyingfrenchy)
04/15/2017 at 20:54, STARS: 3
No, but I like the combo of night vision goggles and sun glasses :)
"415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)" (415s30)
04/15/2017 at 20:55, STARS: 0
Type 58, looks like they are stock-less.
-Marine
"Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire" (arch-duke-maxyenko)
04/15/2017 at 20:56, STARS: 6
It’s Nerf or nothing.
"415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)" (415s30)
04/15/2017 at 20:57, STARS: 5
We can’t see! Switching to goggles! We can’t see! We have no batteries! Engage unicorn magic sight!
Those are just binoculars on a hinge, they are not night vision.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
04/15/2017 at 21:01, STARS: 1
Guns.
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
04/15/2017 at 21:02, STARS: 0
They see everything! !!!
Or, more likely, nothing at all...
"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat)
04/15/2017 at 21:02, STARS: 0
PP-19 Bizons or some Chinese variant of that.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
04/15/2017 at 21:03, STARS: 1
If there’s nothing to see, then it’s easy to see everything.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
04/15/2017 at 21:03, STARS: 0
Really, I’m more interested in the handguns.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
04/15/2017 at 21:03, STARS: 0
I’m most interested in the handguns.
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
04/15/2017 at 21:04, STARS: 0
Hmm, this is true. ...
"My bird IS the word" (mybirdistheword)
04/15/2017 at 21:06, STARS: 0
Probably leftover props from a sci fi movie.
Jokes aside, those are some trick looking grips on the pistols, but I don’t think enough is visible to properly or reliably identify them.
"AntiSpeed" (AntiSpeed)
04/15/2017 at 21:08, STARS: 5
You don’t need NVG when Dear Leader lights the way!
"415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)" (415s30)
04/15/2017 at 21:08, STARS: 0
Well N Korea generally has copies of things, I know many pistols are based on a Tokarev. Grips can be anything, so I wouldn’t go by that. I think they dress up really old stuff, the rifles up there are generally ones produced in 1958 etc.. from what I hear.
"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat)
04/15/2017 at 21:10, STARS: 1
A CZ-75 most likely.
"415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)" (415s30)
04/15/2017 at 21:11, STARS: 1
Maybe a Baek Du San, CZ-75 copy.
"whoarder is tellurium" (whoarder)
04/15/2017 at 21:12, STARS: 0
The grip and slide on the pistols look like some sort of CZ-75 clone.
So, probably a clone of a Chinese Norinco NZ-75 clone.
Cloneception.
"dogisbadob" (dogisbadob)
04/15/2017 at 21:13, STARS: 6
super soakers? :p
"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat)
04/15/2017 at 21:17, STARS: 0
Or a Type 68
"Viggen" (viggen37)
04/15/2017 at 21:18, STARS: 0
Type 58 is a Type II pattern AK-47. These look more like a domestic PP-19.
"415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)" (415s30)
04/15/2017 at 21:28, STARS: 0
There are all kinds of things up there, copies, all garbage, not really worth a look.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
04/15/2017 at 21:59, STARS: 3
"Jcarr" (jcarr)
04/15/2017 at 22:06, STARS: 0
The PP-19 has a helical feed magazine.
"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
04/15/2017 at 22:17, STARS: 0
How many variations of camo are they wearing?
"Shour, Aloof and Obnoxious" (shour)
04/15/2017 at 22:19, STARS: 0
Based off of the grips and the look of the extended mags, I would also concur with the guess of CZ-75s. I have pair of CZs, and both the plastic and wooden grip plates have those cuts under the beavertail area for hand fitment. I also have two of the 19-round mags, and they look like the extensions in the photo.
"Matt Nichelson" (whoismatt)
04/15/2017 at 22:42, STARS: 1
I dunno what weapons these are, but holy crap can we talk about the look on that guy’s face in the middle?!?!
"Jack Does Cars" (jackdoescars)
04/15/2017 at 23:13, STARS: 0
Guns.
"Frank Grimes" (FrankGrimes)
04/16/2017 at 02:48, STARS: 0
some kind of Ak with tennis ball launcher.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
04/16/2017 at 09:15, STARS: 0
Yup.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PP-19_Bizon
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
04/16/2017 at 09:16, STARS: 1
Three, each: Uniform, vest and knee pads. That I count...
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
04/16/2017 at 09:20, STARS: 0
It has nice proportions. I like the double-action trigger. Are yours both in 9mm? Are they decent guns?
"coqui70" (coqui70)
04/16/2017 at 10:23, STARS: 1
Obviously for show - the pistol holster is in a really awkward position, wrong angle and on the wrong side of the chest. Correct placement shown below:
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
04/16/2017 at 10:57, STARS: 0
And more the pistol I’d expect to see a North Korean soldier carrying.
"leicester" (leicester)
04/16/2017 at 15:28, STARS: 1
And I went up there, I said, “Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead, burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL.” And I started jumpin up and down yelling, “KILL, KILL,” and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
yelling, “KILL, KILL.” And the Sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me,
sent me down the hall, said, “You’re our boy.”
"Shour, Aloof and Obnoxious" (shour)
04/16/2017 at 21:13, STARS: 0
Both my 75 BD and P-07 are 9mm decocker models. The double action on both is heavy enough that there’s little chance of me pulling it by accident, so I carry the P-07 chambered and decocked.
The two real great features of CZs almost always boil down to comfort and recoil. The CZ 75 took every thing that felt great in Browning’s last two great designs (1911, Hi-Power) and put it in a double stack that JUST. FITS. Seriously, I have yet to find any handgun that feels as good in the hand as a CZ (or CZ derivative: Sphinx, Jericho, etc). The Beretta M1 and most modern Walthers come very, very close, but the CZ always wins for me. Block, Kahr, S&W, Springfield, even Sig Sauer...all fine semiautos, but none fit my hand as comfortably as a CZ. In the photo, it looks like those soldiers have the CZ-85 grips, which feel really nice:
But I equipped my 75 with this rubber number by Hogue, which I snagged for about $20:
(Not mine, found on the web)
The recoil on the CZs are fantastic - just lines right back up on target with virtually no effort. People like to talk about low bore axis, but I don’t know how much of that is true. I do know that neither the 75 or the P-07 are light, and that goes a long way into muting the kick, and I do feel the snug and reliable internal rails help lower the center of gravity on a top-heavy handgun.
As far as trigger goes, my 75 has the classic trigger, which is still fine, but not as good as the new Omega triggers that my P-07 came with. Especially with the decocker, both start pretty gritty in DA, but clean up into a smooth-but-heavy pull after 200-300 DA pulls. Out of the box, SA is crisp and predictable, and even better after 200 or so rounds. The SA on the Omega is so light that I actually had a ND (still pointed down range) the first time I ranged the P-07. Pulled the weapon back to my chest to study my hits, and kept my finger on the trigger LIKE AN IDIOT, and POP! If you want to get any new CZ and you have a trigger choice, get the Omega. It’s a gem.
Being full-frame steel, I rarely carry the 75 these days; it stays by my bed with a little flash light (no rail) or lives as a range queen. Still feels great, but it’s quite a bit heavier than the P-07. If you’d rather carry all metal, the 75 Compact, 75 PCR, and P-01 are all smaller and lighter while still packing 14+1. I almost always have the P-07 on my hip, and it feels just as good in hand, packs 15+1, is about the same weight as the 75 Compacts, but was more than $100 cheaper than the Compacts. If I had my druthers, I’d carry a 2075 RAMI BD, but they’re near impossible to find. Most CZs, save for race guns, can be had for between $400-600, and their Turkish and Italian clones (Canik, Tagfolio, EAA) often sell for $300, while still being good pieces.
I know I sound like a fanboy (I guess I am), but this is Oppo, so no surprise? My advice to you is the same advice a friend gave to me before I chose to buy a CZ 75 as my first weapon: go to a gun show and put every single weapon you see in your hand, because if it doesn’t feel good in your hand, you’ll never want to practice with it. That singular piece of advice is what led me to CZs as my primary weapons (I also have a Ruger LCP II for ankle carry), and I haven’t found anything that both performs better and feels as comfortable (grip and trigger wise) as CZs. Hit up a gun show and put a CZ or a CZ clone in your hand, and if possible, give the trigger a few pulls. You’ll either be won over immediately, or you won’t care. To each, their own. ^_^
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
04/16/2017 at 22:24, STARS: 0
Wow; you’ve got enough commentary here to spawn six different conversations.
I briefly owned a Hi Power, but sold it to a friend. I can’t get excited about the 9 mm round somehow. Just can’t. I also owned a slightly tricked-out 1911 for a minute, but I thought it was too much of a pain in the butt to disassemble, and kind of a large gun. And as feel in the hand goes, the same friend who sold me the 1911 wanted to sell me a Glock 10 mm, but I didn’t like the feel of that at all.
I own a pair of S&W revolvers: a stainless 4-inch Model 66 and a 1.5-inch Chief Special, nickel plated. The latter is .38 spl and the former is .357 mag. At the end of the day, I’m a straight wheel gun man. I think that in self defense, you’re more likely to get the job done in zero rounds than five, or 15+1. But I’m no expert.
It’s funny, but I latch onto a given round as much as I do a given gun. Maybe that’s not so funny... I like the versatility of the .357 and the manageability of the .38 spl. Both of those are in a safe under the bed and I haven’t busted a cap in probably two years.
I like the proportions of that CZ as much as any auto I’ve laid eyes on, and on Wiki, they say there’s one chambered in .40 SW.
What is a “ND?”
My cousin has a Ruger Super Alaskan in .454 Casull and I love to shoot it. I have strong hands and the gun has a comfortable grip. He calls it “bear repellant.” There are some who get all exercised about that moniker, but I think it’s funny.
"Shour, Aloof and Obnoxious" (shour)
04/17/2017 at 00:12, STARS: 0
My preference for 9mm is cost and availability. If it’s inexpensive and easy to come by, I can practice a lot. If I can practice a lot, I’m less concerned about pure “stopping power” because I trust my shot placement. If you put it in the right spot, .22LR is just as effective as saving your life as .44. It’s less intimidating if you draw for self-defense without firing, but in the end, a bullet is a bullet. That’s my personal philosophy, anyhow.
.454 Casull as a bear repellant is pretty accurate; IIRC, .454 was specifically designed as a big game round, so I imagine it might remove a limb if used for human self defense. I certainly understand your love of the power and flexibility of .357 chambering; coincidentally, a member of my congregation (a firefighter captain) and I had a lively discussion about the advantages of .357, and how his wife can also use the weapon if it’s loaded with .38. On the flip side, a retired member of the army Special Forces who sits behind me in church is perfect content with his 6-round LCP .380, while he has a whole personal arsenal at home. I’m sure he’s a deadshot, even with that tiny 2.75 inch barrel, atrocious trigger, and nasty snap...no doubt if another Dylan Roof walks into our church (which is precisely why I started carrying to begin with), he’ll probably stop the guy before I can even draw my CZ, even the smaller bullet.
CZs can all be had in .40 SW - you lose a couple rounds of capacity, and the manufacturer’s reputation for complete reliability loses a couple of points (9mm CZs almost never FTF/FTE, where as .40 SW CZs will FTF on occasion). And of course, it’s snappier than 9mm, too. If you’d really like a semi-auto round that performs similarly to .357 Mag, there’s 10mm. Jeff Cooper championed both 10mm and the CZ 75, and developed the now rare Bren Ten, which is essentially a CZ 75 chambered in 10mm. While they are no longer manufactured, the leading CZ clone maker, Tanfoglio/EAA currently makes essentially the same gun, the T95, in both steel and polymer.
And ND is negligent discharge. Fired a round without intending to; no harm done since the weapon was pointed down range when it happened, but that doesn’t excuse it from happening. Broke rule 3 - keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire. In this case, I had ceased firing, but didn’t remove my finger from the trigger, and still being loaded and cocked, it was in single action.
As a revolver guy, you’d probably prefer your semi-autos in DAO. Can’t remember off the top of my head, but I think you can get CZs in DAO, and if not so from the factory, they can be converted to DAO.
"The Powershift in Steve's '12 Ford Focus killed it's TCM (under warranty!)" (steve-still-hasnt-wrecked-the-powershift-in-his-12-ford-focus)
04/17/2017 at 09:38, STARS: 1
Per Tyler Rogoway - AKS-74Us with a helical magazine and a top folding stock. The Norks have had them for a while , but the fact that they’re on tiny AK-74s seems new. Fully loaded, they must weigh ton.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
04/17/2017 at 20:40, STARS: 0
I broke Rule 3 once, but no ND. I would have blown a hole in my foot with a factory .357 load if I had. I’m pretty cautious on the range. Can’t be too careful.
I’m not super-experienced, though I consider myself to be pretty knowledgable. I was shooting with a friend and his boys once, in Ohio. The boy fired my Chief’s Special and it just sort of popped. It was a squib round and the bullet lodged in the barrel. I’d never seen this happen before, but I understand things well enough to figure what had likely happened. I stopped the boy from firing again and I’m glad I did because it would have been very, very bad if he had.