by "Jagvar" (Jagvar)
Published 04/11/2017 at 07:57
by "Jagvar" (Jagvar)
Published 04/11/2017 at 07:57
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My vote: the Aston Martin Lagonda. I’m not sure if there are any still moving under their own power.
"Flavien Vidal" (flyingfrenchy)
04/11/2017 at 08:00, STARS: 0
That 450SEL 6.9 I just posted is quite up there in term of potential maintenance nightmare...
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
04/11/2017 at 08:02, STARS: 8
a flood damaged VW phaeton
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
04/11/2017 at 08:10, STARS: 8
If I got to sit in this interior, I wouldn’t even slightly care if the car didn’t move. I’d still be in heaven. It’s without question my favorite car interior of all time.
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
04/11/2017 at 08:11, STARS: 0
Bugatti Veyron or Chiron perhaps?
"EL_ULY" (uly)
04/11/2017 at 08:14, STARS: 7
Oh how I loath!!!! Lagondas and Esprit!
Actual hatred in its purist form.
When either pulls into the service department... dude, any positivity and happiness is out the flippin window
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
04/11/2017 at 08:16, STARS: 2
It spins at to 44,500 RPM. I’m be scared to death to work on that. Just imagine improperly tightening the wrong bolt and having it come loose at full engine speed.
"PartyPooper2012" (PartyPooper2012)
04/11/2017 at 08:20, STARS: 0
Yacht!
You can’t just go to PepBoys and get parts. No one should ever go to PepBoys for parts, but if you wanted to... you still can’t
"Jagvar" (Jagvar)
04/11/2017 at 08:20, STARS: 2
How many Lagondas actually pull into the service department?
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
04/11/2017 at 08:34, STARS: 0
Mine, not really I see a modified SRT4 Neon occasionally, so probably that.
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
04/11/2017 at 08:35, STARS: 0
Bazinga
"Carbon Fiber Sasquatch" (turbopumpkin)
04/11/2017 at 08:37, STARS: 0
Didn’t they only make enough parts to build the handful they built and if anything breaks you have to find a place to manufacture it?
"Jobjoris" (Jobjoris)
04/11/2017 at 08:46, STARS: 3
Did you ever open the bonnet on a Daimler Double Six?
Probably lots of Lucas stuff as well. Be afraid. Be very afraid!
"EL_ULY" (uly)
04/11/2017 at 08:50, STARS: 6
We’ll get one or maybe two a year and they stay here for no less than 6 months each time. Out latest has been here since October for a no start issue that no independent shop can solve (as usual). I called Aston for a wiring schematic, a month later we get a table of context and some other paper work but no wiring schematic because they don’t have one.... at Aston HQ! Zero parts pretty much and any technical information is pretty much non existent. A flippin nightmare of electrical issue on this current car that was fixed-ish. The customer has since sold it. Here in parts, independent “specialists, LOL!” shops call in for thing on these monthly. Unless they want to wait 3 months for Aston to maybe find a broke to manufacture the part, the car will remain a brick. The answer usually comes back as a big fat NO from Aston.
"EL_ULY" (uly)
04/11/2017 at 08:50, STARS: 2
pulled* lol :]
"kanadanmajava1" (kanadanmajava1)
04/11/2017 at 09:19, STARS: 0
Something fairly modern from a manufacturer that’s completely unwilling to share any service documents or software outside their official dealers. Maybe a V10 Toureg built for some small market area with a long list of small issues?
"Viggen" (viggen37)
04/11/2017 at 09:20, STARS: 0
Range Rover Classic
"fintail" (fintail)
04/11/2017 at 09:23, STARS: 1
Early W220 S600
W220 S65/C215 CL65
All quite normal cars that seem to go wrong at every turn, with exotic parts prices.
V12 BMWs and Jags have to be up there too, and W12 VAGs.
"LongbowMkII" (longbowmkii)
04/11/2017 at 09:27, STARS: 0
you need a perfect storm of complicated, bespoke, rare and unloved.
"PotbellyJoe and 42 others" (potbellyjoe)
04/11/2017 at 09:35, STARS: 1
Depends, some are problems others let you know beforehand. RRCs are nickel-n-dime problems if you know the signs, if you ignore them, well good luck.
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
04/11/2017 at 09:36, STARS: 0
And yet my dream car collection still retains a space for one of those.
"Vicente Esteve" (vicente-esteve)
04/11/2017 at 09:53, STARS: 0
Tuned W8 Passat.
"EL_ULY" (uly)
04/11/2017 at 10:08, STARS: 0
oh, the pain goes away once the tires are warm and you feel the boost of that Esprit. Premium sports car driving experience like Exige Sand Evora 400 is phenomenal. NOTHING can match a Lotus in that department.
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
04/11/2017 at 10:23, STARS: 0
...I meant the Lagonda.
"EL_ULY" (uly)
04/11/2017 at 10:44, STARS: 1
"Land_Yacht_225" (nadenator)
04/11/2017 at 11:01, STARS: 1
Phaeton W12, because “we’re gonna have to pull the engine for that...”
Any Mercedes-Benz with ABC and failure prone turbo chargers, the SL being the worst because “we’re gonna have to pull the engine for that...”
An Audi 2.7T anything.
A Passat W8, because that missfire means you need a new engine block.
These just being common examples. Obviously, Lagondas and Leyland V12s are the real nightmares that are just un-ownable.
"Land_Yacht_225" (nadenator)
04/11/2017 at 11:04, STARS: 2
Ah, the M137 V12.
Voted by experts the most likely engine block to end up as a coffee table.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 11:14, STARS: 0
There’s only one answer here.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 11:17, STARS: 1
V12 W220s are very reliable and cheap to maintain , especially in the suspension department! Just ask me, I’ve hardly spent a dime on mine !
*cries*
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 11:18, STARS: 0
Fuck the ABC ! Comin’ straight from Stuttgart
An old S class got it bad ‘cause It’s broken, And not working , so the dealer think
They have the authority to pillage my wallet
Fuck that shit, ‘cause I ain’t the one
For a punk service advisor with a quota to meet
To be pressuring into a motherfucking CLA Lease
That’s all I’ve got lol.
"Land_Yacht_225" (nadenator)
04/11/2017 at 11:22, STARS: 0
I don’t know what you’re talking about. The previous owner must have replaced everything but the pump in mine, because I haven’t had a problem since replacing it.
"fintail" (fintail)
04/11/2017 at 11:29, STARS: 0
I know an indy mechanic who literally refuses people who bring in the early V12 cars, at least the few still on the road. After the second person walked away from the car rather than pay the bill, he had enough.
"Your boy, BJR" (jerseyshoreben)
04/11/2017 at 12:38, STARS: 1
Holy fuck.
Never thought I’d see the day you said you hate a car...
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 12:42, STARS: 0
The M137 was just a clusterfuck of awful design choices and pure laziness. Truly only useful as a table or a boat anchor.
"EL_ULY" (uly)
04/11/2017 at 12:42, STARS: 0
The repair process and that they’re soooo difficult in many forms. Each has many good merits..... but fuck man, y day so baaad?!?!?!?!
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 12:44, STARS: 0
I’m steadily blowing up high pressure lines every 8 months or so. I’ve yet to have a pump or struts go but I’m nearly at 100,000 miles.
"fintail" (fintail)
04/11/2017 at 13:06, STARS: 0
The cars can be salvaged for their interior and the cool 6 spoke wheels on early ones. I guess.
"Land_Yacht_225" (nadenator)
04/11/2017 at 13:17, STARS: 0
Less likely since you have, in effect, been flushing the system with the frequency of oil changes.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 13:17, STARS: 0
Even the interiors on the pre facelift 220s trigger me. The all belong in a s shredder.
"fintail" (fintail)
04/11/2017 at 13:23, STARS: 0
What irks me most about the inside is the input buttons for COMAND 2.0 being on a distinct pad away from the nav screen. The headlights also seem to come pre-glazed over.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 14:13, STARS: 1
Actually no. I’ve only had to change the oil once since I’ve bought it. I’ve had 3 or 4 flushes, although none of them were voluntary.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 14:15, STARS: 0
THEY ARE. THE HEADLIGHTS ARENT TRANSPARENT. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT ON PURPOSE???
"Land_Yacht_225" (nadenator)
04/11/2017 at 14:24, STARS: 1
Are you doing 10,000 mile changes? Cause I’m doing 5,000, and it looks plenty dark after that. I’m actually going to get an analysis done next time I change it.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 14:29, STARS: 0
I was yeah, but that’ll change now I guess. Mine was burning oil for about a month last summer, then the problem disappeared.
"fintail" (fintail)
04/11/2017 at 15:53, STARS: 0
Intentional obsolescence? First with the 03 facelift, and those cars aged a decade the day the first W221 appeared.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 16:08, STARS: 0
Almost surely. I still love the way a good W220 looks.
"fintail" (fintail)
04/11/2017 at 17:06, STARS: 0
I’d take one in “horizon blue” with a light interior and 5 spoke AMG wheels.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 17:25, STARS: 0
Mine is Mocha black with the Designo saddle interior and those wheels. Perfect W220 S600 IMO.
"fintail" (fintail)
04/11/2017 at 21:06, STARS: 0
Was that a designo paint color as well?
Back in 2005 I looked at a horizon blue on beige (I think) car, 2001, I forget if it was S430 or S500. It also had 5 spoke AMG wheels. I got close to going for it, but it sold (!) before I could do anything. Probably for the best - the C43 I bought instead cost half as much and probably was 1/10th as expensive to run.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/11/2017 at 22:59, STARS: 0
Yeah. This car is one of about 30 like it for 2004. This is from a time when Designo actually meant something. The full Designo spec was something like $14-15,000 in 2004.
"fintail" (fintail)
04/11/2017 at 23:38, STARS: 0
Yep, different world. Designo costs just a few grand today, I think, and is a lot more common.
Kind of like pre-2003 AMG cars. Volume won.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/12/2017 at 00:23, STARS: 0
Yeah, it’s really a shame. That being said, there’s now much less difference between the equipment on a S550 vs an S600.
"fintail" (fintail)
04/12/2017 at 09:25, STARS: 0
I think today that difference is just a few surfaces and standard features, and the engine. I think there are very few exterior differences unless one chooses the Maybach barge.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/12/2017 at 09:56, STARS: 0
No. The only differences between the 600 & 550 exterior wise is that the V12 gets split grille spokes, and that the 600 is only available with the sport appearance package, whereas it’s optional on the 550.
"fintail" (fintail)
04/12/2017 at 10:45, STARS: 0
Does a 600 get standard drivers assist?
For V12 cars, I still gravitate to the 140.
"V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches" (jbv12)
04/12/2017 at 10:49, STARS: 0
I believe it does, I don’t see it anywhere on the configurator.
"orbix42" (orbix42)
05/12/2017 at 22:29, STARS: 0
That may indeed be amongst the greatest car interiors ever... Dammit, now I want one.