by "gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
Published 04/08/2017 at 13:50
by "gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
Published 04/08/2017 at 13:50
Tags: FUCKING HELL
STARS: 0
My Forte5 SX was purchased back in October. It’s a pearl white colour, and as much as I like it (especially when the daylight starts to fade the way the light reflects off the paint is nice) but now I see one annoying problem: orange spots.
They look like rust, but it’s not actually the car rusting since you can remove them with some elbow grease. However, I’m worried about what kind of solvent to use since using just water takes too long, and the car has a LOT of these orange spots.
Is there an easy way of removing these? I’m reluctant to use a rag and do it by hand because it’s the pothole season in Ottawa and the way they fill the potholes with loose asphalt is fucking retarded since little bits of black stuff are stuck to the car (unfortunately, this was after I had the car washed). I’m afraid that no matter how much I try to use the “clean” part of the rag, I’ll be pushing around these asphalt particles and scratching the paint even more.
If the only way is a rag and elbow grease, it’s likely I’ll just pay someone to get the car detailed, because I removed a few and it takes a long time.
White is nice but I don’t think I’ll ever get a white car again.
"Berang" (berang)
04/08/2017 at 13:58, STARS: 0
windex and a paper towel?
"gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
04/08/2017 at 14:00, STARS: 0
Is windex okay to use on car paint?
"Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever" (rustanddust)
04/08/2017 at 14:03, STARS: 1
May want to try rubbing compound and a micro fiber towel. Should clean up anything on top of the clear, and reduce the elbow grease/effort required. Any photos?
"Rico" (ricorich)
04/08/2017 at 14:05, STARS: 2
What you are seeing is iron fall out and it’s super easy to remove! Don’t worry. Here’s a link that explains more: https://www.detailingwiki.org/decontaminating/what-is-a-fallout-remover/
TLDR: iron particles embed themselves in your paint and oxidize.
You can use any car iron fall out remover. I’ve personally used CarPro Iron X but there are plenty of other great options. Afterwards you’ll want to clay your car then apply a sealant to keep it clean for the next few months.
"Rico" (ricorich)
04/08/2017 at 14:06, STARS: 0
"Rico" (ricorich)
04/08/2017 at 14:08, STARS: 2
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This video shows the removal process. The liquid turns purple as the remover dissolves the particles.
"Rico" (ricorich)
04/08/2017 at 14:10, STARS: 2
For asphalt and black particles you’ll need a tar remover which you can pick up at any auto store. I’ve used this: https://www.amazon.com/Stoner-Car-Care-Tarminator-Remover/dp/B0002LBGWI
It will dissolve any black brown tar that is stuck to your paint instantly.
"Rico" (ricorich)
04/08/2017 at 14:12, STARS: 0
Rubbing compound is extremely aggressive and not required for this, there are solvents made to dissolve these particles before you make physical contact with the paint.
"gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
04/08/2017 at 14:15, STARS: 0
It’s not my actual car, but it looks like this, although not quite as severe:
When you stand away from the car, it’s definitely not noticeable, but when you get up close they are noticeable. It’s definitely not as large and numerous as this person’s photo.
"Rico" (ricorich)
04/08/2017 at 14:16, STARS: 0
No
"gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
04/08/2017 at 14:16, STARS: 1
That’s pretty neat. Thanks for your tips, I’m going to try all this when I have a chance.
"Rico" (ricorich)
04/08/2017 at 14:20, STARS: 0
No doubt. If you need any other advice or suggestions feel free to post, me and Svend are pretty well versed in car detailing.
"gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
04/08/2017 at 14:23, STARS: 0
Looks like insect strikes a little. Or possibly tree sap droplets.
"gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
04/08/2017 at 14:25, STARS: 0
I never understood why some people thing white cars look cleaner than others even if they’re really dirty. It’s just not true. The only cars that don’t look filthy when they’re filthy are cars that are dirt-colour already.
Source: I grew up in a place where winter and gravel roads are life. Cars don’t ever stay clean.
"gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
04/08/2017 at 14:42, STARS: 0
I’m not sure why people believe that, either. It’s beautiful when it’s actually clean but it’s a pain in the ass to keep it clean at all. In the winter time you get so much salt/dirt/grime that the car spends most of it’s time as a white car with a shitty grey/brown/black overcoat.
I think the ones that tend to look cleaner for longer are silver cars - they’re light enough that most dust blends in, and it takes a lot of buildup for them to actually look dirty. Going to the extremes (i.e. black or white) appears to be much more high-maintenance.
"gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
04/08/2017 at 14:45, STARS: 0
It’s not my photo, but I know they’re not insects/sap because I don’t park around any trees (underground parking at home, and no trees near the parking lot at my workplace) and these spots actually aren’t on the hood of my car. Most of the spots are on the trailing edges of the wheel wells and bottom halves of the doors.
After reading Rico’s tips here and some quick Googling, I guess it’s just oxidized metal particles which are probably from brake dust.
"gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
04/08/2017 at 15:00, STARS: 0
Hard to tell which panel it’s on, yeah. But you tend to collect insects and tree sap while driving. Or at least I do. And what sad place has no trees nearby? I couldn’t ever work there.
"gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
04/08/2017 at 15:34, STARS: 0
I have no idea which panel that is, either.
There are trees near my work, just not around the parking lot. It’s a bit of a strange layout where there are trees and green space around the building but the parking lot is just a large patch of shitty asphalt and gravel. There are a few trees along half of one edge of the parking lot but nothing that provides any significant cover.
Believe me, you could plant a whole cartoonishly green, Disney-esque forest outside the building but you’d still feel the soul-crushing weight of corporate life.
"Busslayer" (Busslayer)
04/08/2017 at 15:40, STARS: 1
It may have to do with your proximity to the U.S. We have been suffering from an orange plague since shortly after you got your car and it may be drifting over the border.
"gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
04/08/2017 at 16:58, STARS: 2
Damn. I thought that plague affected tan, brown, and black cars more than they did white ones.
"Khalbali" (khalbali2)
04/08/2017 at 17:01, STARS: 0
How do you like the car? Manual or dct? My wife is considering one for her next car, although it is near the bottom of the list. She has a rio now that’s been good though just too basic.
"gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
04/08/2017 at 17:31, STARS: 0
I really like it. It’s not perfect by any means but it was the best deal I could find. I test drove the Civic Turbo at the time and while I really liked the car, I found the F5SX to be at least as good and got a much better deal than I could with the Civic. It’s also $300 less per year on insurance. Civics are surprisingly expensive to insure in Ontario.
The 2016 year didn’t have DCT as an option, that only became available in 2017. I have the six-speed auto and while the sequential paddle shifting isn’t instant, it’s quick enough that you can work with it. Power/torque from the 1.6T is great, and it builds up speed very well - I think this is the perfect amount of power for daily use and enough to have some fun without being terrified.
I think the ride could be better - you do feel the undulations in the road, but I’d imagine this is the result of tuning more for performance. It’s not uncomfortable, though.
Interior is definitely acceptable for this level of car - I got the SX without the bells and whistles like full-leather and the large centre screen. Mine has leather seats with the cloth inserts, and they’re heated which was real nice in the winter.
Gas mileage can be good - there is an Eco function that I never use. It seems to only make the car upshift as quickly as possible and dull the throttle response. I never use the mode, and on a full highway trip (Johnson, Vermont to Ottawa, Ontario) it got around 8 or 9 L/100km. In pure city driving, worst I’ve had is around 13 L/100km (this was in the winter and where I love spinning the wheels in the snow) but in good conditions I get around 12 L/100km (with a lead foot) but I have gotten close to 10 L/100km when being reasonable. I only bought this car to go faster, so my realistic city average is around 12.
I just realized how long this response has gotten, but the TL;DR version: it’s a really good car made better by a good deal, but it really depends on where you live. If I lived in the US and could get that version of the VW GTI that’s essentially a base model with the Performance Pack, I think I’d have gone for that. The 5-door Performance model in Ontario would be around $45k after taxes based on MSRP (obviously you could do better) but my car was closer to half that amount. While I’m sure the car would be more refined as a whole, that’s not worth double to me.
"Berang" (berang)
04/08/2017 at 23:33, STARS: 0
Why wouldn’t it be?
Windex has to be right up there with 3-in-1 oil for things people falsely believe will destroy everything for no reason.
"Berang" (berang)
04/08/2017 at 23:33, STARS: 0
Yes. I’ve used it to remove “pollution” spots and moss from cars that were parked for decades with no ill effects.