by "Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
Published 04/06/2017 at 19:00
by "Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
Published 04/06/2017 at 19:00
Tags: Peugeot
; 604
STARS: 3
(must type fast, only 14 min to go...)
After our 104, 204, 304, 404 and 504 we come to....
The 604. Of course we do. Peugeot’s last large rwd car, made with not a lot of success from 1975 to 1982.
I had thought there was just the one body type, but no.
There was a US spec one (spot the changes)
More interestingly, Chapron, a coachbuilder from the glory days before WW2 made a couple of these Landaulettes
While Heuliez did a few of these
We note that like the 204 and 304 lhd models had rhd wipers. So did the (few) rhd ones have compensating lhd wipers? Maybe (bonus Alpine)
Or maybe not, depending
The 604 had some important trivia. Automatic ones (a relative rarity for a French car) had three speed units from GM in Strasbourg, because French. They later switched to ZF ones like the 504 and 404.
Also, the 604 was made in Korea under licence as the Kia 604. Not many know that.
Bonus points for identifying the other car.
The 604 was the first turbodiesel sold in Europe.
"gte225" (gte225)
04/06/2017 at 19:37, STARS: 2
Fiat 132
"fintail" (fintail)
04/06/2017 at 21:19, STARS: 1
I like these, kind of a French W116. They were sold in NA capitalizing on the French theme, with automatic variants (no doubt 99.9% of sales) even badged “Automatique”. I remember there was one in the neighborhood when I was a kid, and it seemed quite exotic at the time.
"Amoore100" (amoore100)
04/06/2017 at 22:49, STARS: 1
A French W116 with 0% of the reliability.
"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
04/07/2017 at 05:08, STARS: 1
“Automatic” badging was very much a thing once when it was an expensive option you’d show off. Ford used to do it:
Others I’ve seen include “overdrive”, “fuel injection”, “ABS”, “air con”, “6 speed”
"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
04/07/2017 at 05:11, STARS: 1
Were they particularly unreliable?
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
04/07/2017 at 05:23, STARS: 0
Fiat 132 for the other
"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
04/07/2017 at 06:58, STARS: 0
That’s the one!
"fintail" (fintail)
04/07/2017 at 09:43, STARS: 1
That’s the badge I recall. I liked how they left the spelling in French - I always saw that as deliberate, to make the car seem special.
Badges with “ABS”, “Fuel Injection, air con stickers, “5 speed” etc existed on this side of the pond, too.
The automatic badge is an interesting one, as now many with a strange sense of ego would see it as a badge of shame. MB did it for some time, and I have studied it. From what I can tell, it appeared first on the final run of 1st gen fintails, maybe only for production in calendar year 1965, and for second gen fintails through the end of production in 1968. This is a first gen, these aren’t insanely uncommon:
You could also find it on 113s:
108s and 109s that replaced the highline first gen fintails would have it:
114s and 115s would have it:
And I think maybe the very first run of 116 could have it, but then it vanished, I guess by 1972-73, it was finally a normal thing and nothing to show off.
"Amoore100" (amoore100)
04/07/2017 at 13:51, STARS: 0
It had two types of engines: some early PRV’s, and a few XD turbodiesels. The PRV’s need no introduction, especially being early engines, but this is what Wikipedia has to say about the XD’s:
!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!
Knowing most people, being “difficult to start”= unreliable. Also, someone around here said that theirs developed a crack in the engine block after only something like four years and was replaced by an unkillable W116, so yeah, not renowned for lasting long, the 604.