Idea: The ultimate home defense gun

Kinja'd!!! by "Rainbow" (rainbeaux)
Published 04/03/2017 at 08:02

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Because, statistically speaking, there’s too good of a chance of accidentally shooting a friend or family member by mistaking them for an intruder, I thought of a way to make the intruder do all the hard work for you:
It looks and feels like an ordinary rifle. It goes on a display rack in the living room, fairly close to the front (or back) door. Ammo is left nearby. The home invader comes in, sees the gun, and can’t believe his luck. He picks it up, loads it, and chambers a round. Then he finds you. You refuse to do what he says, and he gets pissed. After a little more tension, he decides to fire.
But that’s when he finds out that the magazine he loaded was just a dummy, and the gun already had a bullet in its real chamber. The butt of the rifle conceals its real barrel, which sends his shot straight into his shoulder. It’s a small, fairly weak, non-lethal shot, but it’s still enough to render his dominant arm useless and give you time to hold him down.

As a bonus, I suppose the gun could also be set up to automatically call 911 as soon as it’s removed from its display. It sends a pre-set message that will bring both police and paramedics to your house.

I mean, it WOULD work... It’s just probably too complicated to do it well.


Replies (16)

Kinja'd!!! "jimz" (jimz)
04/03/2017 at 08:05, STARS: 10

that would be “booby trapping,” which is illegal as all hell.

Kinja'd!!! "That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
04/03/2017 at 08:07, STARS: 3

Is it really? I guess that makes sense. There was a dude in the news a while ago for booby trapping a package on his doorstep because thieves had been stealing them, set it up with a shotgun shell to go off and scare the shit out of them. That may have been legal because no actual harm was done.

Kinja'd!!! "bingham123" (bingham123)
04/03/2017 at 08:10, STARS: 5

now if you replace the shooting through the shoulder with a big fucking taser style thing you would get alot of laughs as they fall on the floor in a pool of there own piss

Kinja'd!!! "Rainbow" (rainbeaux)
04/03/2017 at 08:11, STARS: 0

Damn, didn’t realize that was illegal. Makes sense, though, I guess.

Still, it is kind of funny that you’re allowed to defend yourself with any number of weapons but you can’t leave them to handle it while you’re safely in another room.

Kinja'd!!! "Rainbow" (rainbeaux)
04/03/2017 at 08:12, STARS: 0

I like that idea better! A Taser AND a slow-acting tranquilizer so they can’t get back up.

Kinja'd!!! "Funktheduck" (funktheduck)
04/03/2017 at 08:20, STARS: 0

So here’s some problems with sending the bullet backwards:

You have to assume the criminal is willing to shoot

You have to assume the criminal is holding the rifle in a manner where the bullet doesn’t pierce one of those important arteries exiting he heart nearby

If it doesn’t pierce, it needs to be powerful enough to incapacitate which could vary with the clothing the criminal is wearing or their size. Rubber bullets and bean bags can be lethal and have a minimum distance to be fired to more safely take out someone without killing them.

I would think either electricity (like a taser) or bear/pepper spray would be more effective at such a close distance. Those are typically non lethal.

But I think booby trapping is illegal anyway.

It’s rare intruders will come in while you’re home. Most are easily scared off by even the smallest of dogs barking. The rack of a pump shotgun I’ve heard is extremely effective. There was a video and Florida news report on a woman who had a man break into her home while she was with her kids. He ran immediately after seeing a rifle pointed at him.

Kinja'd!!! "pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
04/03/2017 at 08:22, STARS: 1

spoilsport.

Kinja'd!!! "bingham123" (bingham123)
04/03/2017 at 08:24, STARS: 1

its just getting better and better lol

Kinja'd!!! "Master Cylinder" (mastercylinder28)
04/03/2017 at 08:46, STARS: 2

Yeah, it’s definitely illegal where I live and probably in every US state.

The issue is that you’re setting up a trap intended to harm someone, but you’re in no imminent danger. There’s no way to know ahead of time what the situation will be when your trap goes off, so you don’t get the benefit of the legal defense of self-defense.

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
04/03/2017 at 08:56, STARS: 2

Or....

Just get a doggo.

Kinja'd!!! "RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
04/03/2017 at 09:09, STARS: 1

I mean, it WOULD work...

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Kinja'd!!! "crowmolly" (crowmolly)
04/03/2017 at 09:23, STARS: 1

Yes, it is super illegal. I don’t think you’d even be able to claim self defense if you killed the person.

Kinja'd!!! "crowmolly" (crowmolly)
04/03/2017 at 09:24, STARS: 0

Also, the scenario is using a rifle as an example.

Assuming a common centerfire FMJ bullet (5.56?), something else is going to get hit.

Kinja'd!!! "That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
04/03/2017 at 09:54, STARS: 0

That’s interesting. I had literally never given it a thought.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
04/03/2017 at 10:57, STARS: 1

I’d imagine because, taking your scenario for instance, the only reason that they had a weapon to threaten you with was because you provided a booby trapped one. If they brought their own to us, they would’ve used that one and not the one you left out.

I guess it’s kind of like entrapment by an undercover cop.

Kinja'd!!! "Flyboy is FAA certified insane" (flyboy396)
04/03/2017 at 11:13, STARS: 0

I don’t live in the greatest part of town, both me and my roommate keep shotguns near our beds.

He always jokes about making shotshells with salt rocks in them. Won’t kill the intruder but it will hurt a lot. Definitely won’t come back.

Cool idea, but you’d just be better off with a taser if you don’t intend on shooting an intruder. Or, have an empty wall gun and a loaded one under your bed!