by "Patrick Nichols" (pnichols)
Published 04/02/2017 at 17:47
by "Patrick Nichols" (pnichols)
Published 04/02/2017 at 17:47
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So there tends to be a lot of discussion around here (and presumably elsewhere) about future classics, missed opportunities, and value over time. The general consensus (rightfully so, I think) is cars that are either reasonably priced new or have fairly steep depreciation curves initially, along with relative future rarity due to limited production or a significant decline in the road worthy examples. So without going full Martha Stewart, is there anyone that could influence the consistency of our collective predictions.
The influence of pop culture on value I think is huge, similar to (without getting political) the claimed effect Roe v. Wade had on crime rates in the 90s. Whether it is over time or fairly immediate in it’s effect is probably dependent on the age group that the particular medium is targeted towards. The ability of the content creator to act upon their potential added value therefore depends on the budget of their project, confidence in their ability to affect potential consumers, and patience.
Think about the cars we always mention and the people that influenced their value. How did the top gear specials (Germany sports sedan challenge, the Argentina trip, Saab 99 film, Lancia film, etc.) affect value? How many twin turbo Supras could Vin Diesel have bought for pennies during the first few FF movies? How many r32 and r34 GTRs could have been stockpiled in Japan by the makers of Gran Turismo games once their success had been realized? The VW Corrado in Forza Horizon?
Obviously you can’t buy up the entire fleet of the car you wish to influence and the content shouldn’t be created for the sole intention of driving up the price. It might be the schrodinger’s cat of market and gearhead thought experiments. Also, whoever the investor is should probably set things up in a shell company to avoid the transparency of their endeavor.
Which cars have you seen influenced like this? Who do you think is a **millennial LinkedIn buzzword trigger warnign** influencer? Does anyone want to create desirable content for a 1985 Garelli Rally SL?
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"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
04/02/2017 at 18:22, STARS: 1
I think Clarkson and company probably could. It’s actually a bit disconcerting to watch old new Top Gear on Amazon Prime and realize how many things from that show have become solidly entrenched in car enthusiast culture.
I’m convinced that solid portion of Alfa comments made on the front page are based on nothing more than Clarkson saying a million times that you can’t be a gearhead without owning an Alfa. There are waaaaay too many people ready to fight to the death over a car they (probably) can’t even afford from a fairly obscure Italian brand that wasn’t even available in the US for most, if not all, of their lives
"Patrick Nichols" (pnichols)
04/02/2017 at 18:37, STARS: 0
Can’t imagine what TVR prices are like because of them and I can’t imagine euro-spec hot hatch prices haven’t been affected. I don’t think most people that don’t actively participate in motorsports would know about the track day cars and I doubt polaris would have even made the slingshot without seeing the exposure that Catherham and Morgan were getting.
"gmporschenut also a fan of hondas" (gmporschenut)
04/04/2017 at 00:35, STARS: 0
something unique and cool. Sporty helps. also the 30 year rule. I think a limitation in the future will be keeping all the electronic stuff working. I think what will push future classics are cars that have a large aftermarket following to keep making replacement parts.
given previous generations. buy 90's japanese cars. The r32 and r34 were cool back then and only grew outside of japan due to GT series. Alfa GTv6s are still cool because look at what was offered back then other than a 3 series.. not much for a small sporty coupe.
I think pop culture can have a major influence on a car like the DMC-12 that bumps it up.
"Patrick Nichols" (pnichols)
04/04/2017 at 07:23, STARS: 0
True. The Alfa engine bays for the most part look awesome and they sound distinctly Italian.
I think electronics will be a huge factor. Anything that doesn’t have clean lines around the electronics and a double din slot will either look way too outdated or be non functional.
Deloreans are one I totally forgot about.
I’d like to see FJ cruisers become classics. I think certain niche vehicles like the T-Rex will drop significantly in value before a steady increase. I think the lines of the last gen mr2 are holding up well and e46 3-series. All of these could use a boost from somewhere.
"Saracen" (manualdoucheelitist)
07/17/2017 at 13:09, STARS: 1
Most will point to the Fast and the Furious movies for permanently driving up the prices of the S13 and S14 Nissan 240SX..
But a few years before that movie ever hit theatres, the now-defunct (and awesome) car magazine Sport Compact Car ran an article detailing how you can build an SR20-swapped S13 240SX for $3000. I was very in tune with the market because I was looking for a clean 240 at the time...and within a month or two of that article coming out, demand for all years of 240 shot through the roof and prices doubled.
And then F&F happened and the cars were doomed to live out their lives as ghettoized drift cars.