PC help please and thank you

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Published 03/30/2017 at 17:45

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GTX for your time. The Plymouth not the GPU.

So my PC is being crap again and by crap I mean loud which usually means I have to spend some money on hardware. Last time it was the GPU (A 1060 GTX) and boy did it make an improvement but things could obviously be better and by better I mean quieter.

I’m pretty sure the problem this time is the CPU because when I game it usually runs at around 60% utilisation with regular spikes to 100%. So yeah sounds like I have a bottleneck which is unsurprising since it’s an old CPU (AMD FX 4350 Quad Core 4.2ghz) with a brand new GPU.

Other things of worry include:

Disc utilisation running at 100% when opening pretty much anything. SSD time?

Ram. I have a single stick of 8GB and apparently two sticks are better. Thoughts?

My motherboard seems fine but given its age it might be redundant. GPUs are backwards compatible much to my delight but what about everything else?


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Kinja'd!!! "Jarrett - [BRZ Boi]" (jarrettw)
03/30/2017 at 17:49, STARS: 1

SSDs are a life changing experience.

Run a program like Speedfan to check your system temps, and cross check using google to make sure your CPU is in the acceptable temperature range.  

Kinja'd!!! "DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back" (karsonkinja)
03/30/2017 at 17:53, STARS: 0

You could take it apart and give it a good dusting (wipe off fan blades, use compressed air to clean out inside, etc.). It always makes a difference for me. You could also upgrade your CPU cooler, or swap fans to some Noctuas. Noctuas are pricey but worth it if you like a quiet PC.

Kinja'd!!! "Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever" (rustanddust)
03/30/2017 at 17:54, STARS: 0

When you say loud, I’m assuming fan loud? Could be power supply as well. Have you cannned-air cleaned everything out yet?

Kinja'd!!! "djmt1" (djmt1)
03/30/2017 at 17:58, STARS: 1

I used to never clean my computer because I never cleaned my consoles but boy does it make a difference.

Kinja'd!!! "djmt1" (djmt1)
03/30/2017 at 17:59, STARS: 0

Yeah it’s regularly cleaned and the fan that gets loud in particular is the heat sink one and only when the CPU utilisation is high.

Kinja'd!!! "djmt1" (djmt1)
03/30/2017 at 18:00, STARS: 0

I’ve never used one before because the value just wasn’t worth it to me but maybe I should treat myself.

Kinja'd!!! "Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever" (rustanddust)
03/30/2017 at 18:21, STARS: 0

May be able to get by with a CPU fan if a rebuild isn’t in the cards.

As performance goes, I tend to be a tightwad with my PCs: overbuild at the start, and maintain/upgrade GPU as needed (still using an I5 2500K from 2012, installed a GTX970 a couple years ago, and having no trouble with newish games).

Kinja'd!!! "DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By" (ducst3-red-1liter-standing-by)
03/30/2017 at 18:54, STARS: 1

Defenintly a cpu bottle neck, your GPU will hardly breaking a sweat compared to the cpu. SSD is will help for sure, but only on loading times, not much with frames. They are so cheap now, its worth the money if your going to the trouble of a new CPU

Kinja'd!!! "Manwich - now Keto-Friendly" (manwich)
03/30/2017 at 19:20, STARS: 1

If you just want to fix a noisy CPU fan, you can buy a replacement fan for $10 to $20:

http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?cPath=8_129

... and hold off until the AM4 platform and CPUs mature.

But if you want to also address the CPU maxing out right now and make the most of your existing investment, you might want to consider installing an AM3+ 8-core AMD X8 8370... which is also a 125W processor. Beyond that, you get into the 220W processors - which you probably want to stay away from if you care about fan noise. Here is an approximate CPU hierarchy for reference:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

And definitely you should look at getting an SSD as your main boot/swap file drive.

And 16GB of RAM probably won’t hurt either.

I would do things in this order:

1. Get the SSD, do a clean OS install onto the SSD. See how things are.

2. If your system uses 8GB of RAM or close to it at any point, bump the system up to at least 16GB of RAM

3. If performance is still lacking, move up to an 8 core AMD X8 8370.

And beyond that, you’re probably looking at a major motherboard/ram/Cpu swap.

Sidenote: My main desktop system is still running a well aged Athlon II X4 630.

Kinja'd!!! "cbell04" (cbell04)
03/30/2017 at 19:41, STARS: 0

Most bios will have a health area to poke around. Run the pc hard then reboot and pop into bios and see what temp your cpu is sitting at. It will also give fan speeds and stuff. Some will even log heat events and things like that.