by "f86sabre" (f86sabre)
Published 03/28/2017 at 06:26
by "f86sabre" (f86sabre)
Published 03/28/2017 at 06:26
Tags: corvette
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STARS: 3
Also a corvette. The smallest class of a ship considered a warship. Any larger and it is a frigate and any smaller it is a coastal patrol boat.
"Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen" (distraxi)
03/28/2017 at 07:03, STARS: 3
Swedish Visby class stealth corvette. About as close as a naval corvette’s going to get to the Chevy version. 500 tons, composite sandwich hull, twin water jets, 4 gas turbines plus 2 diesels giving 25000hp of raw power! Nom nom nom...
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
03/28/2017 at 07:03, STARS: 1
Something something LS swap
"Dave the car guy , still here" (a3dave)
03/28/2017 at 07:44, STARS: 0
I was a student at a maritime school in the late 70s on this old ship. It was a former US Navy vessel and became an offshore reef in NC. It was a Patrol Craft Escort originally numbered PCE-845.
"RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars" (rallydarkstrike)
03/28/2017 at 08:18, STARS: 3
Funny story, one of my ancestors bought and owned the Royal Canadian Navy corrvette HMCS Halifax after the war and converted her to a freighter. The government hired a company to strip the ship of it’s wartime equipment for the sale, but they didn’t complete the task on time by the sale date. Because of a stipulation in the contract that said ‘as-is, where-is”, they had to give it to him with weapons still on it.
He put the rear deck gun and the ship’s open bridge navigation console on his lawn where it stayed through several owners until a few years ago. :D (the Google Streetview pics are circa 2009)
I’ve been trying to track down the gun as there is VERY little left from the Corvettes these days (most were scrapped) and that piece would be a very important artifact. HMCS Sackville is the only corvette still in existence and is a museum ship in Halifax, Nova Scotia. I’ve been on her several times at the Maritime Museum of The Atlantic....glorious old girl. :) I can’t imagine the hell those sailors went through out there fighting the U-Boats though...
"f86sabre" (f86sabre)
03/28/2017 at 08:27, STARS: 1
That is a fantastic bit of history!
"RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars" (rallydarkstrike)
03/28/2017 at 08:28, STARS: 0
It is! I’m proud of that story! :P
"f86sabre" (f86sabre)
03/28/2017 at 08:28, STARS: 0
SBC FTW
"facw" (facw)
03/28/2017 at 09:02, STARS: 0
I like Israel’s Sa’ar 5 class:
Lots of firepower in a sleek and pretty tiny ship. Do be careful about leaving that Phalanx system turned on though:
The missile detonated upon hitting the loading crane seen in the top picture, so damage was light compared to what it could have been (four sailors were still killed though).
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
03/28/2017 at 09:29, STARS: 1
IIRC they were originally a converted whaler design, so turning it back into a freighter was a pretty good idea
"LOREM IPSUM" (lorem---ipsum)
03/28/2017 at 09:30, STARS: 0
Lol, Regina.
"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
03/28/2017 at 09:33, STARS: 0
Someone explained to me once that the difference between a ship and a boat is that you can put a boat on a ship, but can’t put a ship on a boat. And I may never know why submarines are called boats. The etymology of corvette is interesting:
1630s, also corvet , from French corvette “small, fast frigate” (15c.), perhaps from Middle Dutch korver “pursuit ship,” or Middle Low German korf meaning both a kind of boat and a basket, or from Latin corbita (navis) “slow-sailing ship of burden, grain ship” from corbis “basket” (Gamillscheg is against this). The U.S. sports car was so named September 1952, after the warship, on a suggestion by Myron Scott, employee of Campbell-Ewald, Chevrolet’s advertising agency. Italian corvetta , Spanish corbeta are French loan-words.
"Snuze: Needs another Swede" (markg)
03/28/2017 at 09:40, STARS: 1
That is an awesome story! What i wouldn’t give to have a naval gun in my front yard..
“Get off my lawn, ya damn punks!” *BOOM*
Also, I’ve been spending a lot of time up in Halifax for work lately (13 or 14 weeks since Thanksgiving, I’ve lost count) and it looks like I’ll be spending most of my summer up there as well. I’ve been to the Museum (they host the SNAME conferences for that region) but I haven’t been on any of the museum ships yet. I’ll make it a point to get on the Sackville. However, at work the other week I did get to witness the last sail of the HMCS Athabaskan, she was retired on the 10th of this month.
Also, the whole reason I’ve been up there is providing engineering support on the Canadian Navy’s next generation patrol vessel. It’s a neat project but oh man, that thing will dwarf that little corvette. And us car people think model bloat is bad... Maybe I’ll make a blog post about it later today.
"Snuze: Needs another Swede" (markg)
03/28/2017 at 09:44, STARS: 0
That looks more like a frigate to me than a corvette. And us car people thing model bloat is bad...
Also, I hadn’t heard about the incident you referenced, but just looked it up. Guess your countermeasures don’t work if you don’t leave them on, huh? Still, over all it looks like a cool and rather capable ship. I’ll have to read some more on it.
"facw" (facw)
03/28/2017 at 10:00, STARS: 0
They get classified as corvettes, they weigh in around 1,000 tons which while 50% larger than a Visby is still a third of an LCS (which despite the Navy wanting to designate them as frigates is probably best thought of as a fat, but still fast, corvette), and a quarter of an Oliver Perry, which is about as standard as you can get for frigates. Speaking of the Oliver Perry, USS Stark also had the embarrassing issue of getting hit by a missile because their CIWS was not active:
"RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars" (rallydarkstrike)
03/28/2017 at 10:23, STARS: 0
Very cool, definitely stop in and get on the Sackville if you can! She might not be open at this time of year...if memory serves, she gets towed to the naval yard for storage in the winter...?
Ah, yes...just looked, she doesn’t open until June :(
You can’t miss her on the waterfront though, painted in her wartime ‘dazzle’ camo!
"Snuze: Needs another Swede" (markg)
03/28/2017 at 11:02, STARS: 1
Not that the Sa’ar 5 is a huge ship, but she looks awful big for only 1,200 tons. But at that weight, and considering how big everything else is, I’d agree that it’s definitely a corvette. Though my brain still looks at it and thinks “frigate”.
I’m somewhat familiar with the Stark incident. Wasn’t the missile in a blind spot of the radar? I have no idea if that’s related to the countermeasures being activated, i.e. do they activate on detection of a threat or were they manually turned off? I was a submarine sailor so I don’t know too much about all these fancy anti-missile countermeasures. But it’s a testament to the ship that it took that much damage and survived.
"Snuze: Needs another Swede" (markg)
03/28/2017 at 11:05, STARS: 0
I was going to say, I don’t think I’ve seen her down on the water front, and I’ve spent quite a bit of time walking down there when the weather has been nice. And my schedule just got pushed to the right again, so I will definitely be up there in June and July time frame.
I feel like maybe we’ve had this discussion before, but do you live up in or near Halifax? It’s a fantastic city and I’ve really been enjoying my time there so far. I’m really looking forward to the summer and some nice weather.
"facw" (facw)
03/28/2017 at 11:16, STARS: 0
My recollection is that the Stark had its CIWS in a standby mode. The captain asked if it was active, and the person responsible took that question to mean “is the system on?” rather than “is the system armed?” so there was a breakdown in communication. The radar on the Phalanx is self contained so anywhere it can shoot, it should be able to see, but it has to be told it is ok to shoot down incoming threats (I assume they normally don’t keep it in that more to prevent accidental shootdowns). We have shot of some defensive missiles more recently near Yemen, and they appear to have been successful (though it’s possible the incoming missile just missed, the Navy was a bit vague with their wording): http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/5523/uss-mason-fired-three-missiles-during-anti-ship-missile-attack-off-yemen
"RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars" (rallydarkstrike)
03/28/2017 at 11:21, STARS: 0
We have had this discussion before! :D
I am an 50mins or so away from Halifax along the South Shore near Mahone Bay. :)
"Vlachen" (vlachenaranias)
03/28/2017 at 14:19, STARS: 0
I cannot see that name without hearing it used in this discussion:
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