by "wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
Published 03/16/2017 at 23:40
by "wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
Published 03/16/2017 at 23:40
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Work related rant after the jump.
So I had my 2016 year end review today(yes, it’s almost the end of Q1 2017). And I received a less than stellar rating and a zero dollar merit increase. Criticism included not being available enough to do someone else’s job and not devoting more time to a role I don’t get paid for. Job search begins.
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
03/16/2017 at 23:43, STARS: 0
Ok that’s bullshit. Sounds like a company that places no value on people. Good luck with the search! !
"CB" (jrcb)
03/16/2017 at 23:44, STARS: 2
My coworker asked me today if I was quitting. I told her that a man can dream.
I’m with you there, bud. Best of luck.
"jimz" (jimz)
03/16/2017 at 23:45, STARS: 6
Didn’t they tell you? once you touch it, it becomes your job forever.
"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
03/16/2017 at 23:46, STARS: 7
Telling you that you suck and not paying more is a surefire way to motivate you
"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
03/16/2017 at 23:49, STARS: 10
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 00:07, STARS: 0
Yeah it is bullshit. They place value on people, but only if you work for a specific person on a specific job function. Otherwise you’re human tissue paper.
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 00:08, STARS: 0
My only coworker/subordinate is just putting in time before retirement.
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 00:09, STARS: 0
They were quite vague in the interview process.
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 00:09, STARS: 7
I am motivated, to leave ASAP.
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
03/17/2017 at 00:13, STARS: 2
Time to move on then. Life is too short for that shit.
"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
03/17/2017 at 00:18, STARS: 1
If you quit they won’t pay you severance! They know what they’re doing.
"CB" (jrcb)
03/17/2017 at 00:24, STARS: 1
One of my former bosses had that on a flag at his cottage. Morale was actually decent at work.
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 00:27, STARS: 0
Theoretically, if I had another job lined up and I went in Monday and quit, they’d be REALLY screwed.
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 00:31, STARS: 1
I just need to find a position that works with my skill set.
"smobgirl" (smobgirl)
03/17/2017 at 00:51, STARS: 1
That’s an awesome feeling, in a way. Not the needing to leave, but knowing your true value.
I’m probably as safe as I can get at my company, but I definitely have other options. They KNOW I have other options. I’m tired of continual crises and an inability to schedule reasonable amounts of work for a reasonable amount of money...and my review is next week. I definitely plan on coming prepared.
(Also, best of luck)
"Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
03/17/2017 at 01:05, STARS: 1
At my previous job they delayed my review more than six months, and before they got around to it they laid me off. Best thing that ever happened to me as I am free from those incompetent bastards.
"E92M3" (E46M3)
03/17/2017 at 01:23, STARS: 1
Turn the tables on them. Send the boss a meeting invite for their “Management Review”. Be sure to highlight how they kill morale, and prevent growth opportunities. Suggest some books for them to read, or courses to take so they can become a good leader, and help their employees excel.
"SirDrivesAlot (now with hybrid powerrrr)" (jmstanley)
03/17/2017 at 02:08, STARS: 2
I had a district manager whose idea of motivation was to tell you how many different kinds of shit you were. He was surprised when I quit- I guess he thought that after 18 years with the company i’d be there forever. I have moved on to a much better place...
"SirDrivesAlot (now with hybrid powerrrr)" (jmstanley)
03/17/2017 at 02:27, STARS: 1
Check your employee hand book about the company policy on reviews. If they are late with it you can call them on that. And yeah, the writing is on the wall there- time to go elsewhere. Someone is covering their ass and using you for it. Sucks but I have seen it more than once. Nowadays I am with a company with better ethics than that...And I am in HR and can quash a manager trying to do that.....
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 10:17, STARS: 0
It’s largely a function of the fact my company way under staffs and the jobs they have me do are hard to find people for.
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 10:19, STARS: 0
It’s good to be free but I usually like to leave on my terms.
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 10:21, STARS: 0
I actually called a meeting with my director to ask WTF his reasoning is
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 10:23, STARS: 0
My bosses comments on my performance were largely fine but people that I don’t normally report to for some reason get input on my review. They also have little idea what my job is but get influence over it. Like you said, it’s time to move on.
"Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
03/17/2017 at 10:33, STARS: 1
I agree with you on that, but sometimes there’s no greater impetus to finding work than not having work to go to.
Years ago, after working 12 hour days for a couple of years, I announced my resignation to go to a competitor where I would be making more money and not running the entire department by myself. The boss asked if there was anything they could do to make me change my mind and I informed him that he had ample opportunity to do that in the past and that it was too late for me to reconsider. It felt good, and hopefully made him think a little. It would seem that a token increase and a little show of gratitude would be enough to keep long-time employees happy and that it shouldn’t have to come down to demands to get what was earned. However, with underperforming employees you do sometimes have to take the hard line. I did have an employee once threaten me with the “10% or I walk” gambit; she was treated well over the years, with raises, bonuses and other perks, but that apparently wasn’t enough. I wished her well and promised a good recommendation...
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 10:43, STARS: 0
About 7 years ago I was in finance. Hated every minute of it. Quit my job and started a new career. It’s been great but the way this place is, is wearing thin.
"jariten1781" (jariten1781)
03/17/2017 at 11:19, STARS: 0
If you have a good relationship with someone higher than your direct supervisor talk to them. I received a less-than-exceptional review out of nowhere (my performance was in the top 3 out of ~150 folks in the division and I exceeded all benchmarks) on one occasion in my life and was absolutely livid. It wasn’t a ‘bad’ review per se, just sort of read ‘he was OK last year and could have done better in areas X, Y, and Z’ which didn’t reflect my performance in the slightest. Brushed up my resume that day and started putting out feelers. The next day I went in at 0600 to one of the exec-VPs (3 rungs up from my supervisor) who I had a lot of face time with and gave him the rundown/expressed my frustration. He was absolutely floored when he read the review and told me to standby. Called me up to his office ~90 minutes later.
Turned out what had happened over-all was that my Group had negative returns for the year and the company was stagnant at the corporate level so the bonus/salary pool was incredibly light across the board. My Group Leader decided that rather than doing a proper rack-and-stack, cutting the salaries of the folks missing their targets (or canning them) and plussing up those that met or exceeded, he was just going to give everyone so-so reviews and hold pay where it was. That was, of course, not the right tack to take. End result for me was that the EVP rewrote the review that day and gave me a minor salary bump (which I found out years later he carved out of his own compensation since there was literally no available money in corporate at the time, which pissed me off...I didn’t want pity money; would have been fine with an explanation; was well aware of both the company and industry downturn at the time...and a review that reflected performance); I was temporarily moved to executive staff to prevent retaliation and ~2 months later landed in a different division and was promoted to Senior engineering staff. For the Group leader: all the reviews he had written had to be redone by the Division Director (one rung up) and a number of his direct reports were redistributed in the Division (went from ~40 people in the Group to ~15).
Funny enough, 9 years later, my old GL now reports to me and is actually a really good guy. Turns out he just didn’t have the personality for senior management. He was literally petrified of hurting peoples feelings/causing them to cry/cutting pay/firing people that he schemed up a way to never have to do that which backfired. He never really wanted to be a GL in the first place, but got emergency shoved into the position because he was a high performer when the previous one got fired for alcohol stuff. He’s much better (and happier) as a principal engineer with a small staff of mentees.
"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2017 at 11:41, STARS: 0
I don’t have a good relationship with my bosses boss. I have a good relationship with my boss but he REALLY doesn’t want to be a boss. My bosses boss doesn’t respect me or my responsibilities.
"Bryan doesn't drive a 1M" (bryantakespictures)
03/17/2017 at 12:04, STARS: 0
You must work at the same company as me. “Oh, you’ve heard of the thing we’re talking about? You are now the expert, lucky you!”
"ateamfan42" (ateamfan42)
03/17/2017 at 16:16, STARS: 0
He never really wanted to be a GL in the first place, but got emergency
shoved into the position because he was a high performer when the
previous one got fired for alcohol stuff. He’s much better (and happier)
as a principal engineer with a small staff of mentees.
This highlights one of the problems that can exist in engineering organizations. Executives often think an engineer with a lot of experience must automatically be good at managing other engineers. So we get a lot of engineering managers that are TERRIBLE managers. Of course, some experienced people do make good managers, but many are better off in a technical lead position instead.