by "bob and john" (bobandjohn)
Published 03/16/2017 at 20:56
by "bob and john" (bobandjohn)
Published 03/16/2017 at 20:56
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I cant make mind up on what will be the replacement for the SV
On one hand, Triumphs Street Triple R
765cc of sweet sweet british triple music. 118 HP, switchable ABS and TCS, brembos, TFT gauges... and 50MPG to boot
BUT its British bike, which means electronics scare me. not to mention its a 15K bike (13K list, + tax and everything)
and then THIS exists:
Kawasakis Z1000. Its the last year for this 4 cylinder monster, but its still as mean as ever. 1048cc, 127 WHEEL HP (~150 crank), and looks that will have megatron asking for a resume.
I test rode one of these when this generation first came out. Smooth as silk and that motor is a god dam warp-drive. Paint is pretty neat too. and i see them sitting on dealer lots for 10K out the door.
problems: not as many electronic goodies. ABS isnt switchable, and there is NO tcs or wheelie control. its got at least 50lbs on the Brit, and its a bit thirstier on gas and tires too.
Bike will be used for commuting, posing at work and by the water front, and
hooligan hood-rat shit
cruising with friends late at night on the highways
Cant make up mind. HELP.
"CB" (jrcb)
03/16/2017 at 21:03, STARS: 0
Go for the Triumph.
"Captain of the Enterprise" (justanotherdayinparadise)
03/16/2017 at 21:04, STARS: 0
I don’t really know anything about bikes but I prefer the look of the Triumph. It sounds like while it’s more expensive it’s a better fit for you equipment wise. It sounds like a bit of a toss up.
"CRider" (crider)
03/16/2017 at 21:04, STARS: 4
As if there is any other answer! Only one bike has that V twin, that perfectly manageable, perfect amount of power, that standard riding position, that fuel economy, and the ability to embarrass sport bikes that aren’t racing you. The 2017 SV650!
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 21:05, STARS: 1
that the thing, they are so close...and frankly, I prefer the looks of the Z
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 21:06, STARS: 0
I hate you, yet I entirely saw this coming from someone.
"Alfalfa" (alfalfa-romeo)
03/16/2017 at 21:06, STARS: 0
Being an anglophile and slightly masochist, I’d go with the Triumph. Also, I feel like that Kawi is just slightly over-styled. But it does seem like a better decision from a monetary standpoint. 5k saved and less potential for things breaking seems like it would offset tires and gas.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 21:09, STARS: 0
my current friends triumph isnt exactly doing it any favours either (3 burnt stators in 2 years...but at the same time, its SUCH a sweet bike.
"CRider" (crider)
03/16/2017 at 21:16, STARS: 1
Well, I would say a KTM 500 EXC, but I know you hate fun. So that’s out.
I might have said Rocket 3, but I know you hate power. So that’s out.
I might have said S1000RR, but I know you don’t like bikes that are designed to handle from the factory- only botched together Frankenbikes for you. So that’s out.
I might have said Scrambler, but you aren’t that cool. So that’s out.
What’s left? The SV650.
"Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch" (bman76)
03/16/2017 at 21:17, STARS: 0
Triumphs Street Triple R
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 21:19, STARS: 0
Id LOVE a S1000RR, but insurance would violate me in the worst possible way.
also, canada doesnt get 500EXC last I checked (granted, that was last year, but eh)
would like a rocket, but I dont have 20K to drop on one. plus, whats handling?
I rode a scrambler. didnt like it.
"CRider" (crider)
03/16/2017 at 21:27, STARS: 1
You get the 500 EXC-F and the 690 Enduro R.
Handling? who needs handling when your bike will do roll-on burnouts on the highway?
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 21:28, STARS: 0
I’ll get one when you do, how about that?
"Monkey B" (monkeyb)
03/16/2017 at 21:28, STARS: 0
Triumph, I have a huge sweet spot for the triple. Resale value if you want price justification...
How bout the Yamaha offerings?
"CRider" (crider)
03/16/2017 at 21:29, STARS: 0
You’ll buy any bike I buy?
*laughs maniacally*
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 21:32, STARS: 0
I dont sell my bikes. I ride them until they die.
only yamaha thay intrest me are FZ9 and 10, 9 is eh. shitty suspension that they havent quiet fixxed yet (and I already dealt with one bike with shitty suspension, so no)
10, would love, but jesus is it expensive to buy AND run (how the hell do you only get 30MPG on a bike?)
"Monkey B" (monkeyb)
03/16/2017 at 22:01, STARS: 0
well, I’m sold on the Triumph alone because inline 3...TCS is an option worth having IMO. I don’t think I’d buy a brand new MC without it.
30MPG is terrible for a MC, especially given the segment.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 22:02, STARS: 0
I know. though admittingly, if I run the SV hard enough, i’ll get it down to about there.
"nermal" (nermal)
03/16/2017 at 22:12, STARS: 0
Or, you could buy a leftover Tuono RR. They’re listed on CycleTrader for ~$12k. Add a race ECU ($800) and obnoxiously loud exhaust ($700 - $1k) and you’re in business.
"Funktheduck" (funktheduck)
03/16/2017 at 22:14, STARS: 0
I want that triumph
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 22:15, STARS: 0
no way could I afford the upkeep on THAT. (maintenance OR insurance)
also, 12K USD = 16K CAD. nope.
"Monkey B" (monkeyb)
03/16/2017 at 22:18, STARS: 0
wonder what the Yammy would do then, 19?! That’s truck territory! It’s one thing if I ride a tank dry quickly from spirited riding, but 30MPG on average isn’t acceptable. I generally don’t pay much mind to MPG, but that’s a noticeable number.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 22:19, STARS: 0
Yammie is rated 30 city, 42 hwy.
they seem to be more on part with their ratings, as the few i have spoken to with the bike seem to get ~35 with HARD riding.
"nermal" (nermal)
03/16/2017 at 22:34, STARS: 0
Maintenance isn’t anything out of the ordinary except for checking valve clearance every few years. Insurance shouldn’t be any worse than any other 1000 cc, and still better than a true sportbike.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 22:35, STARS: 0
aprilia is listed as an exotic company with most insurer around here, so rates ^^^^^^
"In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you" (hoontheangelsing)
03/16/2017 at 22:35, STARS: 1
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 22:38, STARS: 0
ew, boxer. what a shit engine.
"In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you" (hoontheangelsing)
03/16/2017 at 22:40, STARS: 0
[This triggers the Subaru fan]
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 22:48, STARS: 0
hang on, lemme do more triggering
ring lands
headgaskets
oil consumbtion
rust
" The Compromiser" (charger)
03/16/2017 at 22:50, STARS: 0
I like the triumph because it looks like a bike. I like the kawi as its cool and neat. But also I have never really been into kawis. But triumphs are British. But it’s a triple. Purple is neat. Transformers are cool. Exposed frame is nice. Very Italian. Headlights are a bit naw fam.
Buy a suzi.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 22:53, STARS: 0
I looked at the GSX-S, didnt like it.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/16/2017 at 22:57, STARS: 0
joking aside, that BMW motor does exactly nothing for me. its slow, heavy, a pain to work on and shaft drive.
"Clown Shoe Pilot" (csp)
03/16/2017 at 23:11, STARS: 0
Get the Triumph. You gotta have a Triumph at least once in your life.
"DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By" (ducst3-red-1liter-standing-by)
03/16/2017 at 23:52, STARS: 1
I’m definitely partial to the triumph. Much lighter bike. I wouldn’t worry about electronics in this day and age, they are all made in India or China anyway.
How’s the does the street triple require more servicing? That would be the only thing scaring me away.
How about the new z900? I think that might be the middle ground.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/17/2017 at 00:07, STARS: 0
Dont like the looks of the 900, and it’s 1000cc or bust if I get a 4 cylinder.
Electronic SHOULDNT worry, but my current experiences are a 2015 daytona r that started leaking from the clutch cover at 9k km and a 09 str that went through 3 stators in 2 years (both friends bikes)
Neither really instills confidence in the reliability
"In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you" (hoontheangelsing)
03/17/2017 at 00:26, STARS: 0
Monster?
RC8 from KTM?
VFR-Interceptor (new one)?
This bike from Japanese Classics:?
https://www.japaneseclassics.com/vehicle/1990-cbr250rr-lightly-modifed/
A Royal Enfield?
Norton?
" The Compromiser" (charger)
03/17/2017 at 01:27, STARS: 0
Well Shit. Just buy a CBR like everyone else then.
"Nonster" (noahnic)
03/17/2017 at 07:24, STARS: 0
If it were my only sporty bike I’d go for the Triumph since it would be a great track bike too, but aren’t you keeping the SV as a track bike? If this bike were less likely to see track time then I might swing toward the Z1000
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/17/2017 at 09:04, STARS: 0
monster: ducati, dont really like them, plus insurance
KTM RC8: expensive, hard to find, hard to get parts, no ABS (a must)
VFR: rode it. didnt fall in love with it (and I wanted to like it. but its too much touring for me)
would LOVE a old 250RR. would NOT love commuting on it.
R-E: slow, not really my style.
Norton: WAY too expensive, hard to find.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/17/2017 at 09:09, STARS: 0
I’m not actually sure whats going to happen with the SV. I’m 90% sure I’m going to keep it, but it might get sold to help fund this bike (GASP, PETER WITHOUT AN SV?!?!)
I’ll have to see closer to the purchese date.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/17/2017 at 09:10, STARS: 0
no naked CBR anymore, the CBR600rr is going away, I cant afford the insurance on the 1000, I’m not dropping down to a 500, and the 650 is basicly a VFR 800 light, which i rode and didnt fall in love with.
yes, I am a pick picky motherfucker
"Nonster" (noahnic)
03/17/2017 at 09:21, STARS: 1
what about the FZ-10?
I’m still waiting on the 790 Duke :D
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/17/2017 at 09:32, STARS: 0
would love a FZ-10, but cost. its a 16K bike before tax, and its only rated for 30mpg in the city...(granted, it seems under rated, but I dont think I have ever seen a bike with a rating THAT low)
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/17/2017 at 09:50, STARS: 0
I agree, I just dont know if i am at that point financially yet.
"DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By" (ducst3-red-1liter-standing-by)
03/17/2017 at 11:06, STARS: 0
In that case, I would go for the Kawasaki, if your planning on putting commuter miles on it
"Hammerdown" (hammerdown32)
03/17/2017 at 11:47, STARS: 0
You can’t beat the Kawi on price. And with it being the last of the line they’re probably well sorted out.
The Triumph has that badass triple though......
Using my own money, I’d buy the Kawi, because I tend to buy on price and deals. TC isn’t a must have for me, so I’d save the money and put it into mods.
" The Compromiser" (charger)
03/17/2017 at 11:47, STARS: 1
It seems there is no pleasing you...
Buy another SV and carry on.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/17/2017 at 11:51, STARS: 0
its not a must for me either either, but it would be really nice to have, esp as I commute in the colder months as well.
"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
03/17/2017 at 11:51, STARS: 0
lol. you and Mtrrider.
dont worry, I’ll still let you try the new bike once I get it :)
" The Compromiser" (charger)
03/17/2017 at 11:52, STARS: 0
It will still be too small and finicky for my fat old ass.
"Clown Shoe Pilot" (csp)
03/17/2017 at 21:31, STARS: 0
not being prepared for financially ruinous repairs is part of the experience!