Homeowners Association: How have you dealt with it?

Kinja'd!!! by "Grindintosecond" (Grindintosecond)
Published 03/01/2017 at 23:11

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Unfortunately, any newer build of a house anywhere near a town you reside will have a HOA fee and associated rules to follow. All regulations are conditions of purchase so you signed on the line and must follow them. So, as car people who enjoy playing with your cars yet live under strict HOA’s, how do you cope? I’m looking at such a thing where I would have to work on my car IN the garage, and can’t do it on the driveway. No back-yard sheds, etc. Bonus? It’s the last new building area anywhere near the town center. A 2mile bike ride to the best parts of main street and has all the things my wife and I are wanting in a house.

So how do you cope?


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Kinja'd!!! "OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars" (jakeauern)
03/01/2017 at 23:13, STARS: 0

Keep projects to pretty quick turn-around items so you can have your garage back. Or have a longer term project and reside to parking in the garage. If you’re going to work with the door open, park your car in front because neighbors will complain.

Kinja'd!!! "G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
03/01/2017 at 23:15, STARS: 0

Maybe see if you can find some cheap shop space to rent?

Kinja'd!!! "Killing-Machine" (killing-machine)
03/01/2017 at 23:36, STARS: 0

When I lived in a neighborhood with an HOA I pretty much did not follow it and fought for constant changes, at first I was get along gang but then they made a rule against pick up trucks, or any vehicle with lettering. So that is when I got involved and tried to prove the bigger point about how much more important the permanent changes were and not the vehicles. Most people will not waste there time fighting with you if for the most part your are generally likable the rest of the time.

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Kinja'd!!! "Nothing" (nothingatalluseful)
03/01/2017 at 23:42, STARS: 0

I’m in an HOA, and it’s strict about somethings, not bad about others. I’d get complaints if I worked on the Cougar and left it outside for a length of time (say a week) in a state of disassembly. My garage is large enough that I can, and prefer to do most work in the garage anyway. No weather, sun, etc to worry about. My only downside is that the Taco lives outside so I have enough room to work in the garage.

I caved when we bought our house. I wanted a large garage and enough land for an outbuilding for car work. She wanted to be able to walk my son to school. I have to admit, walking to school and having no commutes is pretty nice.

Kinja'd!!! "smobgirl" (smobgirl)
03/01/2017 at 23:56, STARS: 0

I bought an old house in a neighborhood full of independent people who do a lot of work on their own cars. But I also have no kids (schools don’t matter) and never really felt that attracted to cookie-cutter neighborhoods to begin with.

In theory there’s a city ordinance against cars in yards and a minimum amount of gravel depth to classify a driveway but I haven’t been fined for either. Next rule to break is the n+1 where you can have only one more vehicle than registered driver.

Kinja'd!!! "gmporschenut also a fan of hondas" (gmporschenut)
03/02/2017 at 00:22, STARS: 6

Kinja'd!!!

the local HOA tired to form around us. “we were the second house in this area, we were here before you formed a HOA, no one ever joined your HOA and will never be any part. So no we will not pay dues or join” when i whipped out the business card of a lawyer i know the issue was quickly dropped.

that’s rough. i know I was looking a year ago and going through listings “oh that looks nice, oh wait, fuck no”

Kinja'd!!! "Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein)
03/02/2017 at 00:59, STARS: 0

If you’re that concerned about it, you could talk to a real estate lawyer to see if there’s any way to preemptively get around HOA restrictions you don’t like. Not that you’d necessarily get very far but you probably also wouldn’t get charged very much by the lawyer if there’s nothing that can be done.

Kinja'd!!! "Decay buys too many beaters" (decay)
03/02/2017 at 01:09, STARS: 3

Growing up in one was tough, my parents wouldn’t let me put my car in the garage long term and I got constant complaints for working in the driveway. That’s not even getting in to how much it blows to be a musician living in an HOA.

When I was shopping for my own house a few years back I told following criteria to my real estate agent

1. Minimum 2 car garage

2. Absolutely no HOA

3. A bathroom would be nice

And then he laughed for some reason.

Kinja'd!!! "AfromanGTO" (afromangto)
03/02/2017 at 01:11, STARS: 2

Fuck hoas. Look for a place without them.

Kinja'd!!! "AestheticsInMotion" (aestheticsinmotion)
03/02/2017 at 01:45, STARS: 4

Don’t. I’m being honest here, it’s just not worth it. You’re talking about cars, but a bad hoa can make your life a nightmare in so many ways you don’t think of until it’s too late to get out. My car was towed the 2nd day I bought a condo because I backed into a spot which was apparently against the rules, two weeks later I had cops called on me because my 8 y.o. son was riding his bike in the parking lot in a “dangerous way” (I don’t have a son, and certainly did not then) and that was just the beginning. I wish I had seen the writing on the wall and left immediately, instead of staying another year and a half.

A bad hoa will nickel and dime you for ridiculous infractions buried in obscure documents you don’t have access to; bad mouth your family at meetings, trying to turn the neighborhood against you; just general unpleasantness all the way to straight up hostility...  Dealing with it will take time, money, and frustration. One way to fight this is to join the board (or whatever the upper positions on your hoa is called) but that has mixed results, and can be very stressful and time consuming. Now, there are good hoa associations, unfortunately it can be hard to spot a tell the difference beforehand. My best advice is to look for a grounds keeper if there is one, or cleaning/landscaping crew and ask them what they think of the hoa. Tell them you’re a potential new resident and chances are they will give you their honest opinion.

Kinja'd!!! "DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
03/02/2017 at 01:46, STARS: 2

My house was built in 1959. Now it is surrounded by over 5 million people, but the only neighborhood rule is you can’t have a rooster or land a plane on your property. I lived in an HOA in college. They hassled my elderly neighbor for having desert flowers in her yard...in the Sonoran Desert. Fuck em’, there’s plenty of old houses out there.

Kinja'd!!! "random001" (random001)
03/02/2017 at 06:37, STARS: 1

I’ve lived in restrictive HOA’s and not so restrictive. You need to think about your priorities. I’ve always worked on my cars, in the garage, with the door up, playing my music. This has been strictly against the HOA at least twice, and not once has anyone ever hassled me. I don’t know if it was the constant swinging of large tools, constant stream of “working on car language” or the fact that I was always respectful of other people’s time. I’d shut it down about dinner time if there were loud tools, air compressor, or such. I’d close the door and switch to only jobs I could do with hand tools, etc.

The downside to an HOA is also the upside. You won’t have lots of neighbors with shitty cars broken down clogging up the streets, the neighborhoods are generally cleaner, and you can make someone else official deal with that god damned neighbor that likes to lock their dogs out at 2200 hours and let them bark for hours upon end. Dicks...

Kinja'd!!! "ateamfan42" (ateamfan42)
03/02/2017 at 08:24, STARS: 1

i know I was looking a year ago and going through listings “oh that looks nice, oh wait, fuck no”

I had the same attitude during my home search. I found one listing that looked really appealing: great price, great features. Then I saw the HOA fee in the listing, and said “No damn way am I spending $300 per month in fees so other people can boss me around about the length of my grass and the color I paint my home and the cars I choose to park in the driveway.”

Kinja'd!!! "ateamfan42" (ateamfan42)
03/02/2017 at 08:25, STARS: 0

Don’t. I’m being honest here, it’s just not worth it.

Very much yes. An HOA in a house listing was an automatic “NO” when I was searching last year.

Kinja'd!!! "misfitmascots" (misfitmascots)
03/02/2017 at 08:48, STARS: 0

Our HOA only will bother you if it is unsightly to the neighborhood i.e. cars parked in the grass longer than 24hrs, numerous vehicles in various states of needing assembly or on blocks. Their only concern is what kind of fence you have.

Kinja'd!!! "The Stig's former college room mate" (das-stig)
03/02/2017 at 12:54, STARS: 0

In order to avoid HOAs, historical preservation societies, stupid zoning laws and stuck up neighbors, I bought my house just outside of town in the middle of farm country. Now i’m considered the “good neighbor”, even though I have put up 2 out-buildings and usually have 1 or 2 unregistered, non running vehicles on the property.

Kinja'd!!! "wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/02/2017 at 13:13, STARS: 0

Become the HOA president

Kinja'd!!! "Grindintosecond" (Grindintosecond)
03/02/2017 at 22:32, STARS: 0

Yeah, the bylaws in this one seems to dictate what you use your garage for cannot prevent you from parking your car inside said garage. Nothing, however, says i have to park in it...just i can’t have things going on in there that prevent me from doing so. just language but nothing really preventing anyone from implementing it in draconian fashion

Kinja'd!!! "misfitmascots" (misfitmascots)
03/03/2017 at 07:28, STARS: 0

Damn that sounds terrible, most people in my neighborhood basically have attached storage units. There’s a family at the end of our street that have so much junk in their garage, they had to make paths to get around it.