by "haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
Published 02/28/2017 at 10:06
by "haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
Published 02/28/2017 at 10:06
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Slow morning today as I wait for some folks to turn projects around. Ask about the cars, ask about legal stuff (disclaimer: responses should not be considered legal advice, there is no attorney-client relationship formed, consult an attorney in your state), ask for relationship advice (don’t ask for that).
"71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors" (adamprotter)
02/28/2017 at 10:26, STARS: 0
Please completely explain personal jurisdiction to me in 2 sentences (just joking). I’m in my first year of law school, and I’m having serious doubts. I honestly don’t like any of my classes and Contract Law makes me physically ill. If I don’t wanna be a litigator and only want to use my law degree as a tool, would I be pigeonholed into either contract law or compliance if I want to work for a
company.
I’m honestly considering dropping out and trying for a second bachelor’s in mechanical engineering or an MBA or both. Sorry for the wall of text/rant, I’m just a little lost these days. I genuinely love your taste in cars, the XFR-S is just awesome.
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
02/28/2017 at 10:37, STARS: 0
Too late for a joint degree program (MBA/JD)? I kick myself for turning down the opportunity to do that, and it’s “only” an extra year. As you get out of the 1L mandatory courses, there should be plenty of options that will allow you to focus more on transactional practice areas (M&A, securities, etc.). I went to law school thinking I wanted to be a transactional lawyer, took a bunch of courses and seminars in that area, and ended up a litigator. I think it is pretty difficult to go straight from law school to an in-house position — most employers that I run across seem to want at least a couple of years of law firm experience first, but that very well could be different where you are. I would say that the corporate lawyers seem to have an easier time finding in-house positions than the litigation associates. Good luck!
"71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors" (adamprotter)
02/28/2017 at 10:41, STARS: 0
Thanks for the advice. Right now, I’m mostly just trying to figure out if I even want the law degree anymore. I kind of accidentally ended up in law school, and now that I’m here, I really don’t know if the law is for me. How or when did you know that you were happy with your law degree?
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/28/2017 at 10:42, STARS: 0
Why do people buy Roush Mustangs when factory performance cars exist, and are soooo good? Can I have the Jag?
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
02/28/2017 at 10:47, STARS: 0
I bought it because of the great deal, and it’s fun to drive. Purchased about 3 months before the ‘15s started showing up at the dealers, so they wanted it off the lot. Huge discount, plus got the Ford rebate that was being offered. Ended up being over $20k cheaper than the Shelby that they had sitting in the showroom.
I bought it as my weekend fun car and to track every once in a while. Ended up running across the Jag (actually, thanks to Oppo) about a year later and fell in love with it. Was going to get rid of the Mustang (who really needs two supercharged V8s in the garage?), but I have a boy that absolutely loves it so I couldn’t sell it.
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
02/28/2017 at 11:04, STARS: 1
For some reason, I always wanted to go to law school. As a fifth or sixth grader, my school allowed you to go to “work” for 2-3 days as a project, so the principal hooked me up with a local county judge and I got to see a trial.
I think law schools are better today about teaching you what life is like as a lawyer than when I was there — but that also really comes after the 1l mandatory classes. Just remember that there are a lot of things you can do — ImmoralMinority is a management-side labor lawyer, I’m a litigator, there are umpteen different specialties for corporate lawyers, you can go work for a consulting outfit like BCG, etc.
"Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle" (1500sand535)
02/28/2017 at 11:33, STARS: 0
Let me say two things. First, law school doesn’t have much to do with the practice of law or what you can do with your degree. Some people hate law school and go on to have terrific satisfying law careers. Some people love law school, and struggle with applying it as a profession(I’m more in that boat).
But law schools tell all sorts of people that a law degree can be a tool to work in business, politics, or a whole host of other industries but in my experience, it’s not what those companies want. If you have the right experience or other education they might hire you, but a JD is best for becoming a lawyer.
Anyways, law school is expensive, try talking with some people doing whatever it is you want to do to see if spending the next two years of your life doing this is worth it.
"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
02/28/2017 at 12:04, STARS: 0
Not that I’m an expert by any means, but both my parents are lawyers and both have commented about how poor the job market is for lawyers anymore. I seem to recall them saying something along the lines of “being a lawyer isn’t a great plan these days”. So if you’re not super into it, toughing it out might not be the best idea right now.
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
02/28/2017 at 12:25, STARS: 0
A lot depends on the law school and how well you do (and what you want to do). If you are at a top 20 law school and finish in the top half of your class, you’ll be fine (absent some personal flaw, like using your lizard tongue to slurp up a piece of lettuce you dropped on your arm during a recruiting lunch — true story!). If you’re at a top 50 school, you probably need to be top 1/3rd of your class ... if you want to go the big firm route. If you are at a mediocre law school, you need to do really, really well to get a decent job. If you are going to a lower-tier law school, I’d suggest you save your money and don’t.
The job market for new lawyers is down, but this is the third cycle I’ve seen since I started law school. If you don’t want to do the big firm lawyer gig, there still are plenty of other decent opportunities out there (but see prior paragraph). If someone can do a joint degree program, that also helps if you ultimately want to do consulting or transition to the business side. And since this is Oppo, if you have a technical background/degree, IP law is down a bit but still is an excellent area of the law to get into.
"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
02/28/2017 at 13:41, STARS: 0
Interesting, thanks for the perspective.
Sounds somewhat similar to the fallacies that I heard before going down my Aerospace Engineering path. Everyone talked about how the world needs more engineers so there will always be jobs, and then suddenly it was 2008 and there were no jobs. It’s never really just “get the degree and you get the job”, you still have to go to a good school and perform well.
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
03/01/2017 at 09:48, STARS: 1
Time;y article today from Law360. Excerpt:
Law360, New York (February 28, 2017, 4:17 PM EST) — Law firms’ entry-level recruiting leveled out in 2016, ending a steady period of growth that bolstered hiring numbers following a steep drop-off during the recession, with half of firms reporting they made fewer offers for summer positions last year than in 2015, a report on Tuesday revealed.
For the first time in four years, half of law firms responding to a survey by the National Association for Law Placement, or NALP, reported a decline in the number of summer position offers they extended to law school students, a departure from the previous years when the majority of firms reported increasing that number, according to the NALP report, titled Perspectives on 2016 Law Recruiting.
“After a period of considerable volatility marked first by a prolonged slowdown in law student recruiting volumes following the recession and then a rapid escalation in recruiting volumes two years running, we have seen the recruiting market stabilize this year,” NALP Executive Director James Leipold said. “Recruiting volumes remain at a high level, but the numbers were mostly flat compared to last year, and in some cases we saw contractions, suggesting that the most recent period of growth has ended, or at the very least slowed.”
"71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors" (adamprotter)
06/30/2017 at 23:50, STARS: 0
So I did it. I dropped out of law school. I went in with almost a full ride so I’m not out any money which is really nice. I’m back to school in the fall to get a second bachelor’s degree, this time in engineering. Thanks for the advice friend. Every day I drove to law school absolutely hating life and hoping I would get hit by a truck. I’m now getting professional help and I’m on the right track.
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
07/03/2017 at 08:50, STARS: 0
Life is too short to do something you hate every day, so I’m glad you got out early before you felt like you had to keep going. I hope engineering works out for you!