by "Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
Published 02/27/2017 at 10:34
by "Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
Published 02/27/2017 at 10:34
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STARS: 15
Waaaaahhhhh cops shouldn’t be driving un-marked cars, waaaaaaaahhh we should be able to speed and cut people off and drive like the assholes we want waaaaaaaaah
STUUU
FUUUUU
/rantover
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
02/27/2017 at 10:40, STARS: 1
Reminds me of the time they tried to justify rape threats because “muh miata.”
"Ash78, voting early and often" (ash78)
02/27/2017 at 10:42, STARS: 1
When that was originally posted to Oppo last week, my entire critique of the cop was that he failed to stop the rider who was lanesplitting dangerously (albeit legally, because California). But some quasi-aggressive driving by an SUV? DROP THE HAMMER! Either way, he still did the right thing. We need more enforcement like this.
"Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein)
02/27/2017 at 10:43, STARS: 0
Cops make me nervous because I roll with no front plate on my bright blue BMW with tinted windows.
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"ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)" (adabofoppo)
02/27/2017 at 10:43, STARS: 6
Agreed.
Could that officer have let them in more easily? Yeah.
Should they have not cut him off? Yeah.
Having a turn signal on does not give anyone the immediate right to change lanes.
"Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap" (ddadragon)
02/27/2017 at 10:44, STARS: 0
But that would require them to take responsibility for their own actions.
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/27/2017 at 10:45, STARS: 4
I’d prefer we derestricted interstate speed limits and made vehicle inspections more stringent. Still have to have cops though, and complaining about them is silly.
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
02/27/2017 at 10:46, STARS: 14
I’m against unmarked police cars, but not for reasons related to getting away with speeding. Unmarked cars really only exist as revenue generators without any of the added benefits of having visible marked cars. As I see it, if your issue is people speeding through your neighborhood, an unmarked car doesn’t do anything to discourage that besides randomly freaking out a bunch of drivers when the lights come on, whereas the same car marked, whether stopped at a speed trap or just cruising, is going to make everyone act on their best behavior. Plus, having marked cars shows that there’s an active police presence in a town and is more likely to deter anyone looking to commit a crime of convenience in the area.
ETA: to clarify, I just think that marked cars are a better use of resources with more benefits than unmarked cars.
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
02/27/2017 at 10:48, STARS: 0
Honestly, that rider is only risking himself. That 6000 pound SUV can do a lot of damage.
"crowmolly" (crowmolly)
02/27/2017 at 10:50, STARS: 1
Bingo.
Cop’s behavior is questionable, but that was an aggressive merge. Traffic or not that’s breaking right-of-way.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 10:50, STARS: 4
But on the other hand, some people are more predisposed to do illegal shit when they don’t know there’s a cop around, and therefore its easier for the unmarked cop that is present to witness the crime and make an arrest or serve a citation.
Put a marked car there and the crimes will drop, until that marked unit is gone.
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
02/27/2017 at 10:52, STARS: 7
I politely disagree. People may speed, but once they spot the black/white livery of a police cruiser, they immediately slow down. They don’t slow down because speeding is dangerous, they slow down because they don’t want a ticket. Having an unmarked police car put the fear of God into them is a fantastic way of enforcing the law.
If you don’t break the law in the first place, you have nothing to worry about. If you’re a habitual traffic law violator, you deserve to be pulled over.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 10:53, STARS: 4
I’m all for making vehicle inspections more stringent. Maybe then it could get the shitboxes off the road that can’t or shouldn’t be doing 90... THEN we can increase the limits as needed.
"Ash78, voting early and often" (ash78)
02/27/2017 at 10:53, STARS: 3
Absolutely, but when we take into account the momentum of the two vehicles, the gap closes a bit. I
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m a big fan of a momentum
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based ticketing, system but that
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s too authoritarian for the US. In other words, ticket speeders based on a vehicle/speed combination to acknowledge actual risk. As it stands, a bike going 20mph over the limit gets the same penalty as a loaded Suburban doing 20 over.
"Manwich - now Keto-Friendly" (manwich)
02/27/2017 at 10:55, STARS: 0
“cops shouldn’t be driving un-marked cars”
Unless they are working undercover, they shouldn’t be using un-marked cars. Using unmarked cars for stuff like traffic enforcement goes against the *spirit* of traffic law enforcement.
And the cop shouldn’t be hitting the gas in a lame attempt to block someone from changing lanes.
So many suburbanites and rural people here who are clearly not familiar with how driving in dense traffic works in reality.
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/27/2017 at 10:57, STARS: 1
That’s why I included that. If we’re gonna do it then we need to do it responsibly.
(Your Geo Metro with 4 different brands of tires and a bungee cord holding the hood on doesn’t fly, lol)
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
02/27/2017 at 10:58, STARS: 0
That’s a fair point, but personally I’d take a visual deterrent of all sorts of crimes at the expense of a psychological deterrant just for speeding.
"merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc" (merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc)
02/27/2017 at 10:58, STARS: 0
Ditto on the derestricted interstates. Have a posted safe design speed, but no speed limit. That should curtail the left lane squatters that feel they are going fast enough cause they are doing the speed limit. I can almost imagine it, a world where we pass on the left and we keep the left lan clear for passing.
If people knew they could bump up there speed by 5-10 mph to affect a pass, then get back in line and resume their previous speed, I think we’d all be better for it.
We will always have dummies, but that’s where the police could then focus their efforts if they didn’t have to worry about speeders.
Just imagine....
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
02/27/2017 at 11:00, STARS: 4
“Having a turn signal on does not give anyone the immediate right to change lanes.”
THIS!!!!! THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, TTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIISSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can you tell it’s one of my pet peeves?
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
02/27/2017 at 11:01, STARS: 2
I suppose that’s true, but even unmarked units aren’t going to patrol 24/7, so I feel like in terms of deterring, say, wouldbe burglars, a visual police presence, even occasionally, would do more.
"merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc" (merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc)
02/27/2017 at 11:02, STARS: 0
Pay to play man.
I got popped in my last ride due to tinted windows. No ticket, but he was running my info. It definitely pays to be polite. But i couldn’t have gotten upset at the cop for doing his job when I know I’ve modified my car in a way that is illegal. Sure it would’ve sucked, but not the cops fault. They’re just doing their job.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
02/27/2017 at 11:03, STARS: 4
(Your Geo Metro with 4 different brands of tires and a bungee cord holding the hood on doesn’t fly, lol)
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"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
02/27/2017 at 11:04, STARS: 2
Momentum-based ticketing, now there’s an idea. I’d absolutely get behind that, but it’s far too complicated as a general approach. Besides, what do you do for a trucker going 15 over? Roadside execution?
"Noah - Now with more boost." (antriebverliebt)
02/27/2017 at 11:05, STARS: 1
Like others have said, outdated laws are part of the issue. For example - in MA we have leftover 55 MPH speed limits from the seventies, often on roads that have gained 2 additional lanes and longer onramps since then. The result? Everyone does 90 in a 55 and the police don’t care unless you’re the only one going that fast. It’s a nice arrangement but also totally ridiculous.
"Ash78, voting early and often" (ash78)
02/27/2017 at 11:06, STARS: 0
LOL...I know it would be complex, but if we standardize it into something like 5 weight categories, the cop could use the official placard in the car’s door jamb, add the passenger count, and do it pretty simply and objectively. It’d be no more arbitrary than the town-by-town insanity we have now. My worst was “$1 per mph over the limit, plus $185 in court costs.”
"Shankems" (CraigCulkin)
02/27/2017 at 11:06, STARS: 2
Unmarked cruisers are simply there for the revenue. All ticket revenue should go straight to the DOT. You’d see traffic enforcement dry up in a day.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 11:07, STARS: 9
Wouldn’t be any revenue if you DON’T BREAK THE FUCKING LAW
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/27/2017 at 11:09, STARS: 1
Goddammit Jake, how did you buy a Metro between dinner last night and now, lol?
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
02/27/2017 at 11:09, STARS: 2
That’s BS.
Unmarked cars put people on the lookout for Big 3 sedans and SUVs with cheap wheels/hubcaps. It is a terrible way to enforce the law, and impedes traffic flow with false positives.
Every speeder knows what the unmarked in their own jurisdiction look like. They do nothing to reduce violations, they only increase revenues.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 11:09, STARS: 4
I have no problem with speeding if everyone’s doing it. Flow of traffic is safer that way.
Its the asshats cutting people off, tailgating, not indicating, driving without lights in bad/dark conditions, driving uninsured and unlicensed in a POS missing three wheels and a door, etc etc etc.
"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
02/27/2017 at 11:10, STARS: 0
Well I impolitely disagree, you bad person
"CobraJoe" (cobrajoe)
02/27/2017 at 11:10, STARS: 1
I’d much rather have the money spent on driver training and testing than vehicle inspections.
A well trained driver behind the wheel of a questionable car is much safer than a questionable driver behind the wheel of a brand new SUV.
"PotbellyJoe and 42 others" (potbellyjoe)
02/27/2017 at 11:10, STARS: 2
If you don’t break the law in the first place, you have nothing to worry about.
Where have I seen this false narrative before...
Police are “to serve and protect,” not “sneak up on and punish.” As much as it is not the most popular opinion all of the time, I think rolling patrols of well-marked vehicles is a more honest way of law enforcement. Is there a need for undercover? Sure and I’m not minimizing the difficult and dangerous work that the police who undertake those duties to bring down felons and the truly evil in this world. Speeding isn’t in that category though and the very presence of severely unmarked cars have on the psyche of the public is probably more damaging to the credibility of the police as servants of the community and instead turns their image toward on that is servants against the community.
I support the police and really like the officers in my town, they do a great job. If they got an unmarked patrol car, I would be very upset with them. I don’t think unmarked, highly militarized police officers are a healthy image to project.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 11:12, STARS: 1
That’s why you need a nice mixture. On some days have a marked unit there to deter, then a unmarked for when the criminals THINK its safe.
"Noah - Now with more boost." (antriebverliebt)
02/27/2017 at 11:12, STARS: 1
The problem is the assumption that crime is evenly distributed. Suburban cops handle accidents, domestic issues, and traffic citations in my area. It’s not like they’re prowling through the ghetto around here trying to remain unnoticed. It’s just undeniable that undercover cars are just revenue generators in low crime areas.
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
02/27/2017 at 11:12, STARS: 1
What are you talking about? That Audi that let its blinker blink once totally has the right of way!! /s
"Shankems" (CraigCulkin)
02/27/2017 at 11:12, STARS: 4
Police are supposed to be incented to enforce the law out of dedication to their sworn duties. Not to pad their departmental budgets.
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/27/2017 at 11:12, STARS: 0
How about both, I’m sick of seeing sketchy cars cause accidents because of mechanical failures. I’m all for better training too though.
"Milky" (jordanmielke)
02/27/2017 at 11:13, STARS: 0
Side note: so many 403/Gardiner regulars are not familiar with how driving , period. Driving is never not annoying downtown. Like fuck, PASS ALREADY.
"MonkeePuzzle" (monkeypuzzle)
02/27/2017 at 11:16, STARS: 1
in general I concur. the general sentiment appears to be that we jalops want our cake and eat it too, as if we are some higher qualified auto enthusiasts so road laws should not apply to us in the same way.
in relation to today’s story I agree with teh top comment in the article, merging guy did nothing wrong or dangerous.
"Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein)
02/27/2017 at 11:16, STARS: 1
I have 50% tint on everything except the windshield, so it’s subtle. I chose it partly because I don’t like dark tint and partly because I wanted other drivers (including cops) to still be able to see me.
My fear of cops is totally irrational.
"rillweid - Now with more TRD and less TDI" (rillweid)
02/27/2017 at 11:16, STARS: 1
While this is true for traffic they are good for monitoring covert operations so people don’t get spooked.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 11:16, STARS: 1
If I hear “revenue generator” one more time..... I love how people like to gravitate toward a term and just abuse it to death.
Its really simple: Don’t break the law, then there’s no “revenue” to “generate”.
"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
02/27/2017 at 11:20, STARS: 1
Oh, that reminds me to post my find of the weekend.
"Shankems" (CraigCulkin)
02/27/2017 at 11:20, STARS: 0
In the context of non-revenue activities, I totally agree. I think the police should should have all the appropriate resources to do their jobs effectively where the incentive it to protect and serve.
"John-Palazzo" (John-Palazzo)
02/27/2017 at 11:22, STARS: 0
And people are supposed to obey the law out of respect for society and their fellow humans, not because they fear getting a ticket or going to jail.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 11:24, STARS: 1
You could say anything about any group of enthusiasts. But they too have to adhere to the rules and laws given to the general public while intertwined with them.
Merging guy assumed his signal granted him access, and forced his way in. Cop was a bit of a dick, yes, but rightfully so. He didn’t HAVE to be ‘nice’, just as any civilian doesn’t have to be.
"merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc" (merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc)
02/27/2017 at 11:27, STARS: 0
Lol, yeah with that level of tint, you should be good to go, unless you’re doing something stupid, you probably won’t get messed with.
Irrational fear, maybe, but I don’t think there is a single one of us on the road that doesn’t damn near shit themselves when the flashy light are in the rear view.
"TechBro" (techbro88)
02/27/2017 at 11:28, STARS: 3
Yeah, because cops never make up charges. How about police straight up stealing money from people via civil forfeiture?
"My bird IS the word" (mybirdistheword)
02/27/2017 at 11:29, STARS: 4
Sorry Takuro, but people being shitty does not excuse others of being shitty. Like civil forfeiture isn’t excused by “ well people shouldn’t sell drugs then” both affect innocents.
"Roadster Man" (roadsterman)
02/27/2017 at 11:30, STARS: 4
Having not read anything from the front page, fuck unmarked cop cars.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
02/27/2017 at 11:31, STARS: 1
I work fast. I buy cars faster. I eat slow.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
02/27/2017 at 11:36, STARS: 0
Safety inspections, yes. And maybe a basic sniffer test. But please, god, none of the “gonna check your OBD2 and if there’s even a single insignificant code you fail” bullshit. Like, any early 2000s Buick/Pontiac/Chevy. Great cars, very safe for their time, but the wheelspeed sensor system shits the bed 80% of the time after 90k miles. Is it the wiring? Is it the speed sensors which are integrated into the hub and are stupid expensive to fix? Is it the module? Who knows! Or maybe a bad VVT solenoid, which will make you lose out on that tiny bit of power halfway up the rev range but costs $300 just for the part (not counting an hour’s labor+markup at a shop to have it fixed) but otherwise has no bearing on the car’s roadability. Oops, it threw a code! You fail inspection!
Shit, my Miata which you can attest to be a perfectly fine, road-legal example of the breed, would have failed inspection several times just because the previous owner put the wrong fuckin oil in it and it was throwing VVT errors.
But, yes. Please take all of the rusted-through frame’d GMT400s off the roads and cars that have been t-boned and then “Das good enough” eyeball-aligned by Uncle Clem and driven at 70mph on the highway. And the bald tires. And the tires with OBVIOUSLY broken belts (I can see your Suburban rocking back and forth because your tires is fucked up WHY ARE YOU ON AN ONRAMP?!).
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
02/27/2017 at 11:38, STARS: 2
Or my personal favorite, cutting about a quarter into the lane and then signaling. That never fails to trigger an primordial response in my brain. There’s also this brief nanosecond of a flash where I think “just hit the gas and sideswipe them. Do it. It’ll be worth it.”
"MonkeePuzzle" (monkeypuzzle)
02/27/2017 at 11:38, STARS: 0
*rolls up sleeves* oookay, its gonna be an argument on the internet ay!?
before I proceed, is your mother in good health? I wish to know prior to making any yo momma jokes that may backfire.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
02/27/2017 at 11:44, STARS: 3
Unmarked cop cars are pretty dumb for traffic patrol, but not because of “revenue generation.” If they keep posting up marked cars in areas where people speed, the speeders soon get the message. It’s amazing how a little fear can keep people who do 50 in 30 zones nicely in line.
Tl;Dr: post up more marked cars to keep the bastards in line.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 11:47, STARS: 0
Well if the dumbasses breaking the law present an opportunity.... SO BE IT.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 11:47, STARS: 0
We’re talking about traffic laws here, don’t get off tangent with even more anti-cop propaganda.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 11:49, STARS: 1
Cops aren’t being “shitty” by pulling you over for breaking a traffic law when you were the person being “shitty” in the first place by breaking it.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 11:49, STARS: 1
WAHHHHHHHH
;)
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 11:50, STARS: 0
No idea, haven’t talked to her in years :D
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
02/27/2017 at 11:50, STARS: 1
I seriously considered purchasing a good steel bumper for the Mazda just for this purpose.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 11:52, STARS: 4
If ONLY they same marked cruiser could be in the same spot, every day, at the same times.
I drove the same freeway for 10 YEARS and on days the cops were there, everyone behaved and did the limit and the only nutbags were the ones that hadn’t seen the cops yet.
On the days the cops were gone? BOOGITY BOOGITY BOOGITY BOYS, WE’RE BACK TO GREEN FLAG RACIN’!!!
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
02/27/2017 at 11:54, STARS: 0
I also like the people who just turn on their hazards so they can drive down the highway at 35-45 mph. If your vehicle can’t do highway speeds, then don’t get on the fricking highway!
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
02/27/2017 at 11:55, STARS: 3
They don’t need to be consistent with place and time. Rotate them around to keep people guessing, just stay within similar areas and be sporadic about timing. Pretty soon “I can get away with this” turns into “where is he, will I get popped?”
"Roadster Man" (roadsterman)
02/27/2017 at 11:55, STARS: 3
“I NEED HELP! I AM BEING MUGGED IN A DARK PARKING LOT!!!!”
That blacked-out SUV with illegal tints is NOT the car I’m running to for help. Maybe it would help if it said POLICE on the side.
Am I whining when an unmarked police car with no lights or sirens on speeds around a blind turn, takes it too wide and goes into my lane, forces me to swerve so I don’t die (Miata + Explorer = me dead), and then turns around and pulls me over for “swerving and speeding away”?
Am I still whining when I talk about the time a group of cops beat the shit out of me off-dash-camera and then intimidated me from pressing any charges or launching any internal investigations?
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
02/27/2017 at 12:01, STARS: 1
I think you mean freeway or interstate. Many highways are just two-lane roads....
That being said, I’m ok with someone using the freeway or interstate as long as they: maintain the minimum speed (by law, 45 mph); stay in the right-hand lane; keep their hazards on (even though it isn’t required); and there aren’t any alternate routes.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 12:03, STARS: 2
These are some very specific situations you are imagining. Would you like to show me on the doll where the big bad officer touched you?
"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
02/27/2017 at 12:05, STARS: 1
Those generally aren’t the people whey pull over though. The tickets for those things are cheaper than speeding tickets.
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02/27/2017 at 12:05, STARS: 0
If the cop wasn’t driving an unmarked car he wouldn’t have gotten cut off.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 12:08, STARS: 0
Usually its a two-fer. Speeding AND, reckless driving AND... Though I’ve been pulled over for having a headlight out and nothing else.
"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
02/27/2017 at 12:08, STARS: 0
Rusty AW11 owner - Can confirm.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 12:11, STARS: 0
Two wrongs don’t make a right. What if the civvie in the brown Explorer was a mass murder on his way to MassMurderCon and was one trophy short of a full cosplay outfit?
Might have ended up with a little worse than a ticket’s all I’m saying.
You never know WHO you’re cutting off, or what kind of day or life they’ve been having.
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
02/27/2017 at 12:12, STARS: 1
As sideways already said, I would applaud (and send donuts to the station) if I saw the cops pulling over tailgaters, left lane squatters, driving with lights tinted so dark that they are worthless, cars belching smoke, etc. Unfortunately, all those people drive by so the cops can pull over someone going 65 in a 55 because that’s easier to enforce/more lucrative in generating revenue.
"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
02/27/2017 at 12:12, STARS: 0
You’reoperating under the assumption that cops are honest when in my experience, most are pretty much the ones from Super Troopers fucking with people for their own amusement. I used to work in the film industry and shot in alot of police stations. Without fail, that’s the movie they cited as being what it’s like to be a cop and what they do every day. That’s from their mouths, not anonymous FPers.
"" (bignslow)
02/27/2017 at 12:13, STARS: 0
What if the civvie in the white SUV was a mass murder on his way to MassMurderCon and was one trophy short of a full cosplay outfit?
Might have ended up with a little worse than a ticket’s all I’m saying.
You never know WHO is cutting you off, or what kind of day or life they’ve been having.
"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
02/27/2017 at 12:14, STARS: 1
That’s the Florida signal, though usually it’s the right indicator for a left turn.
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
02/27/2017 at 12:14, STARS: 0
Around my area, there are towns that replace an occupied cruiser with a parked one — you never know whether there’s really a cop in there or not!
"MonkeePuzzle" (monkeypuzzle)
02/27/2017 at 12:15, STARS: 0
oh... :(
well... yo momma so fat, even if she indicated a lane change in nearly stationary stop and go traffic she’d STILL get a ticket!
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
02/27/2017 at 12:17, STARS: 0
What? You’re telling me you’re not supposed to fake out other drivers? That sounds pretty dangerous.
"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
02/27/2017 at 12:20, STARS: 0
I was ticketed close to $300 for having a license place light out and searched for the privilege, a $250 ticket for not coming to a complete stop at an empty intersection in the middle of nowhere, and a careless driving ticket for passing someone who slammed on the brakes in the right lane then decided to change lanes (they tried to change lanes into me, which was somehow aggressive on my part). I’ve had real speeding tickets too, but the getting pulled over and billed for being youngish in a town full of old people is more common.
"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
02/27/2017 at 12:21, STARS: 1
If you let them know where you’re going, they might know. That’s just basic opsec.
"Roadster Man" (roadsterman)
02/27/2017 at 12:29, STARS: 1
“Imagining?” No, more like “experienced.” The officer slammed my head on the trunk of my Miata until he could write that I was “unsteady on my feet” in the police report for my ticket. Tick off another concussion.
If you have good cops in your area, good for you! I’m sorry you can’t realize that the rest of the country doesn’t live in a gated community.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 12:30, STARS: 0
I agree as well, I’ve watched cars drive by cops at night with no headlights on whatsoever and not get pulled over recently, as well as all the defects you mentioned. I never said it wasn’t a FLAWED system, or that it wasn’t the majority.
"uofime-2" (uofime-2)
02/27/2017 at 12:34, STARS: 0
DW reference, all the stars for you!
"uofime-2" (uofime-2)
02/27/2017 at 12:40, STARS: 0
yeah, but was that in florida?
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"uofime-2" (uofime-2)
02/27/2017 at 12:42, STARS: 1
unmarked are ideal for traffic enforcement on interstates. Marked cars cause traffic problems because everyone panics at seeing them with traffic. Unmarked cars can go slowish in the right lane and catch egregious speeders, tailgators, people weaving in traffic and generally driving like dicks!
"My bird IS the word" (mybirdistheword)
02/27/2017 at 12:42, STARS: 0
Cops are being shitty when they target people out of state matching the pace of traffic because they can’t come back and fight the ticket. Cops are also being shitty when they specifically target confusing and outdated signage specifically to meet quotas set by the department.
"CobraJoe" (cobrajoe)
02/27/2017 at 12:44, STARS: 0
How many accidents do you see caused by a mechanical failure vs how many do you see caused by negligent or aggressive driving?
I’m betting the stats are around a 1:10 for mechanical failure vs driver error, and even then, a good driver can compensate for most mechanical failures if they know what to do. I’ve driven cars with leaking brake fluid, frozen brake cylinders, sticky throttles, lacking power, transmission problems, broken clutch linkages, loose or worn suspension components, and several other questionable problems (usually only for short distances to where I could work on the car, and yet my only at fault accidents in my 16 years of driving were backing into a light pole and going too fast on ice, both back in high school.
Driver training can compensate for a mechanical failure far easier than a mechanical system can copensate for a bad driver.
Plus, if you get some basic training about the mechanical systems (especially failures), and you’ll have drivers that trust their mechanics a bit more when they can actually understand what they’re saying.
"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
02/27/2017 at 12:45, STARS: 0
One or two were, but also the midwest and New York.
"interstate366, now In The Industry" (interstate366)
02/27/2017 at 12:46, STARS: 0
I’m not afraid of cops. I have no reason to be. I never break any laws, ever. Because i’m deathly afraid of cops.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 12:48, STARS: 0
Nothing like taking pride in your job...
In my experience as long as you’re straight and level and admit to being wrong (if you were aware of it in the first place) and don’t get upset that you got caught then you live and learn. I don’t doubt that you’ve had different experiences, but I’m sure there’s details you are leaving out or situations that differ that led to your tickets and view of the law enforcement in your area.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 12:51, STARS: 0
You admit they’re speeding. And not following signage. Correct? If the signs are somehow wrong, take it up with your local highway department. The cops don’t make the signs.
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/27/2017 at 12:51, STARS: 0
Too many, last one was a modified civic which bottomed out over an expansion joint and ripped the gas tank open. It promptly burned down on the highway.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 12:53, STARS: 1
You have no idea about my living conditions or my past. Don’t pass judgement. You never stated those comments were based in fact.
And like I’ve commented to Sideways, I am sure there are other particulars to your and his stories that led to thier outcomes.
"TechBro" (techbro88)
02/27/2017 at 12:53, STARS: 0
A lot of civil forfeiture happens during a traffic stop. So it’s definitely related. And it’s not propaganda, it’s a serious problem. If you have a problem with people not respecting cops maybe you and your cop buddies just stop acting like you are above the law.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 12:54, STARS: 1
???
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 12:55, STARS: 1
"Roadster Man" (roadsterman)
02/27/2017 at 12:57, STARS: 1
Please, learn to read.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/27/2017 at 13:01, STARS: 0
Thought you were posting hypothetically:
“I NEED HELP! I AM BEING MUGGED IN A DARK PARKING LOT!!!!”
That blacked-out SUV with illegal tints is NOT the car I’m running to for help. Maybe it would help if it said POLICE on the side.
Am I whining when an unmarked police car with no lights or sirens on speeds around a blind turn, takes it too wide and goes into my lane, forces me to swerve so I don’t die (Miata + Explorer = me dead), and then turns around and pulls me over for “swerving and speeding away”?
Am I
still
whining
when
I talk about the time a group of cops beat the shit out of me off-dash-camera and then intimidated me from pressing any charges or launching any internal investigations?
Okay I’ll give you that last one. I just dismissed it after the first to seemed to imply “What-If?” scenarios. But hey, if you don’t want to go into lengthy details about it I understand.
"My bird IS the word" (mybirdistheword)
02/27/2017 at 13:08, STARS: 0
But they did choose to intentionally abuse them.