by "That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
Published 02/24/2017 at 08:55
by "That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
Published 02/24/2017 at 08:55
Tags: Old Toyotas
STARS: 0
One of the worst things about me as an enthusiast is that I don’t like to own cars from multiple brands. If I daily drive a Ford, I want a Ford for a toy. Currently my daily is the Land Cruiser, so I’d need a toy-Toyota.
I’ve got a bonus coming from my job, and I’d like to spend it on some cheap older Toyota. Here’s a few ideas, albeit not these exact cars which come from local Craigslist cities.
AW11 MR2
Cheap and plentiful, available t-tops, this would probably be my top choice. I could also be talked to an SW20.
An early Supra:
I’ve always loved the look of this generation Supra, it’s just tough to find one in New England that’s more than 60% metal.
A late 80-early 90s Celica:
I don’t even mind that they’re front drive, anything with the pop up headlights looks great.
A later Celica:
I don’t know why, but I’ve always liked these. This one in the picture has like 30k miles and the psycho is asking $12k for it. Yikes.
My plan for the car, whatever it is, involves cheap bolt on flares and the widest steel wheels I can fit on it. I think the MR2 or early Celica would be my best bets for that.
Did I miss anything? Which is Zoidberg’s cue to shout ‘Tercel wagon!’ in my face for three hours straight.
"MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig" (MR2_FTW)
02/24/2017 at 09:01, STARS: 2
MR2's are great (not biased AT ALL), the Mk2 Celica-Supra is great, that 4th-gen Celica though....unless it’s an AllTrac/GTFour with the AWD and a turbo....just avoid it. Not interesting or fun at all. 7th gen Celica GTS is pretty ok though. Look at the 83-85 Celica. They were RWD and the GTS had the same independent rear suspension as the Celica-Supra as well.
"S65" (granthp)
02/24/2017 at 09:01, STARS: 1
AW11
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
02/24/2017 at 09:05, STARS: 1
My mom had an AW11, but sold it well before I got my license. I’m still a bit bitter about that.
"smobgirl" (smobgirl)
02/24/2017 at 09:05, STARS: 1
MR2!
"That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
02/24/2017 at 09:05, STARS: 0
My only MR2 related concern was if I would fit, since I’m 5 foot 11 and about 300lbs, but I’ve heard they have a lot of room in them for a small car.
"Noah - Now with more boost." (antriebverliebt)
02/24/2017 at 09:06, STARS: 1
The MK2 Supra has always been my favorite, especially the P type with the hatch spoiler and the flares
"MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig" (MR2_FTW)
02/24/2017 at 09:13, STARS: 1
They do. The MK1 especially. Definitely “try it on” first though. I’m 5' 10" but only 190lb and I adore it. Some of my larger friends seem to have issues though. The biggest thing is how big the stock steering wheel is. A smaller aftermarket wheel helps with knee room a lot.
"Roadster Man" (roadsterman)
02/24/2017 at 09:14, STARS: 1
AW11 MR2 all the way. I remember shopping around for one before I got my Miata, and guys on forums were saying that they were 6' 2“ and big, and they didn’t have issues with fitting into the AW11.
EDIT: You’re in New England. Stay away from the remaining AW11's until I buy one! Get a boring Celica!
"Alfalfa" (alfalfa-romeo)
02/24/2017 at 09:25, STARS: 1
MR2 or Supra. Oppo doesn’t have enough Supra. Just be wary of the mkIII, they like to throw rods and such.
"My X-type is too a real Jaguar" (TomSlick)
02/24/2017 at 09:26, STARS: 0
Celica All-Trac! if you can find one.
"That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
02/24/2017 at 09:27, STARS: 0
There’s really nothing for MR2s out here right now. There’s a rusty red one for $1500 with transmission issues...you can have that one if you want it, haha.
"That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
02/24/2017 at 09:27, STARS: 0
That would be my aim, I love the hatch spoiler.
"That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
02/24/2017 at 09:28, STARS: 1
My dad sold a ‘69 Chevelle SS with a 427 (originally a 396) when I was born. I still feel really bad about it.
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
02/24/2017 at 09:32, STARS: 1
If we’re talking before birth, I have much bigger fish to fry than the AW11. My mom owned and totaled an E-Type.
"Jagvar" (Jagvar)
02/24/2017 at 09:32, STARS: 1
A cheap old 2000GT.
"ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper" (thedlo)
02/24/2017 at 09:36, STARS: 1
a late model celica?!?
I’ll disown you.
Id say Aw11, its the most special, if not the supra.
"Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap" (ddadragon)
02/24/2017 at 09:46, STARS: 0
Aside for all of them, Supra or AW11. Aw11 might have more rust?
"That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
02/24/2017 at 09:54, STARS: 1
The newer Celicas are cheap around here, but it’s at the bottom of the list...I’d need to be desperate. AW11 seems to be the overwhelming favorite.
"My bird IS the word" (mybirdistheword)
02/24/2017 at 10:17, STARS: 0
I am sorry, but I find your fun car requirement weird.
That being said, mr2 all the way. Most unique car = most fun car.
"MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig" (MR2_FTW)
02/24/2017 at 10:31, STARS: 0
The last generation Celica is actually a very good chassis for autox purposes, provided it’s the GTS model with the 2ZZ-GE and the 6-speed.
"MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig" (MR2_FTW)
02/24/2017 at 10:43, STARS: 0
The main issue is the improper cylinder head bolt torque spec from the factory. BHG’s are super common on the 7M engines. Easily repaired and prevented though.
"That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
02/24/2017 at 10:44, STARS: 0
About it having to be a Toyota? It’s totally weird, I’m faulty. But once I had a Ford truck for a daily driver, a Jaguar XJ12 as a garage queen, and a Corvair as a toy and I had no idea how to handle it. I need to just have one brand at a time.
"ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper" (thedlo)
02/24/2017 at 10:55, STARS: 0
Yea but there are still better choices out there.
"VonBootWilly - Likes Toyota, but it's still complicated." (vonbootwilly)
02/24/2017 at 10:55, STARS: 0
I’ve driven all those a little, I’d say you need to start test driving. Best way to cross cars off a bucket list is to find out how terrible they are in real life. My pick would probably be the mintest one, because that would probably mean the difference between sitting on jackstands most of the time or actually getting driven. that’s just me. If they were all immaculate and the same price, I’d probably take the 2ZZ Celica, then MR2, then FF Celica if it was a GTS, then Supra (Those supras stock aren’t that good, a 2JZ-GE would help a lot).
I went through a period like that where I would even go for used car test drives on my lunch break at work if they were close enough and the owner was home when I called. I once tried a clapped out cheap SC400 during my lunch that almost made me lose my lunch it was so bad.
edit - sorry honeybunchesofgoats.. replied to your thread by mistake.
"ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper" (thedlo)
02/24/2017 at 10:56, STARS: 0
At the end of the day it is your choice. An AW11 may need more work, and so will a supra, but they have flip lights!
"MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig" (MR2_FTW)
02/24/2017 at 11:03, STARS: 0
I guess. The GTS is about on par with the Civic Si of the same era.
"ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper" (thedlo)
02/24/2017 at 11:06, STARS: 0
Yea? Even in the weight department? Its shape just doesn’t scream agile to me.
"Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig" (AndySheehan-StreetsideStig)
02/24/2017 at 11:07, STARS: 0
MR2 is only car. Get MR2.
"MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig" (MR2_FTW)
02/24/2017 at 11:13, STARS: 0
2500 lbs. That makes it lighter than a stock supercharged AW11
"ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper" (thedlo)
02/24/2017 at 11:52, STARS: 0
WOW! I never knew that, nor would I have guessed.
"MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig" (MR2_FTW)
02/24/2017 at 11:57, STARS: 1
More fun facts. The 2ZZ-GE engine in the GTS is mechanically the same as the one in the Lotus Elise, Matrix/Corolla XRS, and Vibe GT. 1.8 liter, 8250rpm, 180-ish horsepower, and the only Toyota engine to have VVTL-i, where the “L” means “lift”. Basically Toyota VTEC. Aluminum block means it’s light, 6-speed is nice. Celica has truly independent rear suspension as well, which is nice. They were THE car to have in their class back in the day for SCCA autocross, but I think the Mini Cooper S beat it out.
"ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper" (thedlo)
02/24/2017 at 12:23, STARS: 0
I bet I can swap that right into the wifeys 03 camry. lol
"My bird IS the word" (mybirdistheword)
02/24/2017 at 14:25, STARS: 0
Variety is the spice of life.
Nah though it really is no big deal, at least you picked a brand that has decent sports cars available.
"sn4cktimes" (snacktimes)
02/24/2017 at 15:26, STARS: 0
MR2
"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
02/25/2017 at 07:22, STARS: 0
I have an sw20 and love it. Do it!
"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
02/26/2017 at 14:39, STARS: 1
Get the AW11 and then sell me the wheels. Need those for the box!
"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
02/26/2017 at 14:44, STARS: 1
I’m 5'11" and not 300 lbs, and my head hit the roof of my ‘85 Celica. I found it rather uncomfortable which was so heartbreaking because it was incredibly fun and well-built.
"That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
02/26/2017 at 15:11, STARS: 0
The MR2 seems to be the consensus pick.
"Axial" (axial)
02/27/2017 at 22:54, STARS: 0
Needs moar Supra Mk. III:
