by "Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
Published 02/22/2017 at 16:47
by "Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
Published 02/22/2017 at 16:47
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STARS: 5
This dealer buys unregisterable rust buckets at auction from the Northeast, then sells them for normal prices. Being in a really poor area, there aren’t too many other options.
This is just one example.
"Roadster Man" (roadsterman)
02/22/2017 at 16:54, STARS: 6
DAMN. A pothole could take out that Jeep’s fucking frame. I hate inspections because it makes modifying my shitbox difficult, but stuff like this makes me think twice.
"RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars" (rallydarkstrike)
02/22/2017 at 16:55, STARS: 0
In Nova Scotia, Canada where I live, we have to have all vehicles inspected every 2 years.
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/22/2017 at 16:56, STARS: 1
Inspections are critical, I wish they were more strictly enforced.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
02/22/2017 at 16:57, STARS: 2
its broken now, its just a friction fit at this point.
"Dru" (therealkennyd)
02/22/2017 at 16:58, STARS: 0
One thing I’ve noticed about buying cars in this state: it blows. Used especially, but even new as well tends to be more of a ripoff from what I’ve seen from friends.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/22/2017 at 16:59, STARS: 2
So many dangerous shitboxes on the road here, and the owners are none the wiser buying shit like that, or driving around in shit like that that they refuse/can’t afford/don’t know needs fixing.
"Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever" (rustanddust)
02/22/2017 at 17:00, STARS: 0
Pretty sure that was the case (semi-annual) in Maine when I lived there, but I may be wrong. It was 25 years ago, and I was 4 years shy of driving when I left.
When I moved to Maryland, and found out I needed an inspection when I registered a vehicle, but never again, I about lost my mind.
"CobraJoe" (cobrajoe)
02/22/2017 at 17:01, STARS: 1
I disagree on inspections.
We need better education for buying used cars.
At least most of the people shopping for something that old will know to look for rust.
"TheBimmerGuyWhoNowOwnsAChevy" (thebimmerguy)
02/22/2017 at 17:01, STARS: 0
I get that surface rust is a thing and that can be removed with a file and patience. But that, if termites could eat metal, that’s what it’d look like.
"Logansteno: Bought a VW?" (logansteno)
02/22/2017 at 17:03, STARS: 2
I’m always thankful Missouri requires inspections. In general it keeps dangerous shitboxes off the road unless the owner manages to find a place to get a faked inspection. They were also kinda helpful with my M3 because it showed us worn out stuff we’d have never noticed.
"Roadster Man" (roadsterman)
02/22/2017 at 17:22, STARS: 2
That’s terrifying. Dealers should have a legal duty to dispose of cars this far gone, or at least mark them for parts-only sale.
"just-a-scratch" (just-a-scratch)
02/22/2017 at 17:41, STARS: 1
At a glance this looks like a criticism of David Tracy.
This Jeep has too much character.
"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
02/22/2017 at 17:47, STARS: 0
I mean, if the shoe fits... But no, I just saw this today while working.
"ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com" (ita97)
02/22/2017 at 17:49, STARS: 0
Counter point: State inspections just open up another venue for corruption and criminal enterprise while doing little or nothing to actually improve
Here in Texas we have annual safety and emissions inspections. If you spend any time in El Paso, one will notice that there are a tremendous number of vehicles on the road (and with current inspection stickers) that have obvious defects and would not pass the state inspection. Folks with shitty vehicles tend to fall in three categories that I’ve seen around here:
1. They have a vehicle that can pass the emissions portion (with or without illegal assistance from the inspector) but not the safety portion of the inspection. There are no shortage of corrupt shops that will pass the car for the right price and the owner will get a passing inspection report and be able to renew their cars registration. Showing up to the right shop with a hundred or two in cash will go a long ways toward any car passing the safety inspection. In theory, the State of Texas can go after inspectors and the shops that employ the folks that do this. In El Paso, the State either chooses not to, or folks are being paid off to not go after offending inspectors. My money would be on some of both. Folks that go this route end up with legitimate inspections in the system and cars that have valid registrations provided they also have insurance. The other variation of this scheme is having a shady used car dealer issue and then periodically reissue temporary tags for the car. There are also no shortage of places in El Paso that for some cash will issues a temp tag for anything. If show up again in a couple of months with cash, they’ll be happy to issue another tag. Rinse and repeat as needed.
2. Folks that can’t or won’t pay sales tax on a vehicle, can’t or won’t prove residency, or that don’t have a valid license and/or don’t have insurance but want to have current registration stickers or temporary tags on their vehicles, even if they may not be legitimate. There are a lot of fake registration stickers around El Paso. If you know the right guy, very good looking but fake registration stickers are not hard to come by. This guy is not hard to find. This scheme also has a temp tag variation. Anyone with a bit of time and a descent printer can come up with a convincing looking, but fake, temporary tag for Texas. Folks that get pulled over with fake documents will end up getting a whole stack of citations in addition to whatever they got pulled over for, but the idea seems to be that if you have convincing looking tags or stickers and you mind your manners one is less likely to talk with cops on the side of the road in the first place.
3. Many folks in the El Paso area simply drive around without current inspections (which also means they have an expired registration and sticker). The chances of being pulled over just for that are not all that high. When they go get caught, they also receive a pile of citations. I don’t get the risk/reward calculation these folks are taking, but an awful lot of folks do it around here. Reality is that initiating traffic stops for an expired registration sticker is the kind of thing that only happens when nothing else is going on, or when is cop is assigned to the traffic unit or is otherwise working (grant funded overtime) on a tac plan related to traffic in a specific area. Most patrol officers for urban police departments tend to spend much of their time responding to calls for service.
"Laurence" (mrlaurence)
02/22/2017 at 17:51, STARS: 1
The idea that anywhere on earth lets something that dangerous on their roads boggles me...
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
02/22/2017 at 18:16, STARS: 1
This is the point where I say “ha ha”, because even though NC does annual inspections, there are no inspections after 35 years, and I’m five years from having the last of five cars too old to need inspecting.
Ha ha.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
02/22/2017 at 18:18, STARS: 0
Well said. Any state with a tendency to have terminal rust in all kinds of cars within ten or fifteen years... maybe. Anywhere else, YOU ARE BUYING AN OLD CAR, FOOL.
"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
02/22/2017 at 18:36, STARS: 0
What does the inspection consist of? I’ve seen some pretty sketch vehicles with NC tags.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
02/22/2017 at 18:44, STARS: 0
In theory, quite a lot. Steering, brakes, lights, tires, Obviously Broken Things, obvious leaks, glass issues, fluid levels, belt/hose condition...
In practice, often consists of “walk around car, notice anything horrible, lights check, drive in the bay, *maybe* look under it, drive out again, pass”.
Not what our guy does, but there obviously are those who do.
"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
02/22/2017 at 18:49, STARS: 0
So, what are muffler laws of NC? I know some states are kind of unspecific, and a turbo can actually be argued as a muffler.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
02/22/2017 at 18:57, STARS: 1
In theory, everything should be OEM or similar.The actual phrasing is interesting:
No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a highway unless such motor vehicle is equipped with a muffler , or other exhaust system of the type installed at the time of manufacture, in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise, annoying smoke and smoke screens.
In theory, ought to be a type match to whatever was stock, but could be argued to mean “original type *or* a muffler”, thus allowing glasspacks implicitly and straight pipes as well *if* they were stock.
Chances of being given shit over anything by any *inspection station* for anything short of a howling earplugs-in straight pipe are pretty much nil. A cop,
maybe.
"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
02/22/2017 at 19:48, STARS: 0
I get really pissed off when I see a minivan with no rocker panels carrying a bunch of kids around. Which is pretty much daily.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/22/2017 at 19:51, STARS: 0
I love the minivans with rust holes, bald tires, rusted brake rotors, and 3 or 4 car seats on board.
Duuuuuuuuuude......
"facw" (facw)
02/22/2017 at 19:51, STARS: 1
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"facw" (facw)
02/22/2017 at 19:56, STARS: 0
#3 is thebig winner at my office in Houston. I’d estimate at least 5% of cars have expired registration (often more than a year overdue, so not being lazy about doing it). Given that I have to share the road with these people, I wish there was better enforcement.
"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
02/22/2017 at 20:03, STARS: 0
Yep. If some doofus wants to endanger himself driving a rusted out crap wagon that will fold up like a beer can in an accident, whatever. But when someone puts kids in a vehicle like that, they’re sacks of shit.
Our next door neighbors rent their basement to med school students. One they had a few years back drove a first gen Focus with big holes in the rockers. Now, there’s no way in hell I’m just going to buy my kids a car, but I’m damn sure going to help them enough that they don’t have to drive something dangerous like that.
"TheD0k_2many toys 2little time" (thed0ck)
02/23/2017 at 01:34, STARS: 1
nah im good without them. I know how to maintain my car without big brother
"duurtlang" (duurtlang)
02/23/2017 at 03:32, STARS: 0
Counter point: State inspections just open up another venue for corruption and criminal enterprise while doing little or nothing to actually improve
I’m sure that’s an accurate description of what you’re experiencing. However, it doesn’t have to be like that at all. What I witness here in the Netherlands is fair and useful. Inspections are done by shops, by certified inspectors (simply employees of the shop who passed a state test). Directly after a car has been passed or failed by the inspector the results, including specific failures (“rust damagr on left rocker larger than x”, “CO emissions higher than x” or “exhaust leaks”) and advisory statements (“FR tire has thread between x and y mm”) are entered in a state software program, which then tells the company if the car falls within the random sample that will get rechecked by a state employee. If not the car can be given back to the costumer, if so that state employee arrives at the shop within a few office hours. If the state employee judges the vehicle significantly different the shop might lose its license. Being included in this sample doesn’t cost extra.
Shops are free to determine the cost of the inspection, some advertise for as low as €20. The system is not entirely without problems but I do believe it’s beneficial to road safety while keeping costs and corruption low.
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
02/23/2017 at 04:01, STARS: 0
we in Victoria Australia have no annual inspections (except taxis), only when a vehicle is sold to the next owner
"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
02/23/2017 at 07:41, STARS: 0
Yeah, but most people don’t, and you get this. And people causing crashes because their brakes finally gave way after not being paid attention to, or their tires being bald, or a rusted in half frame, or failed steering component, or.... I could keep going, but I’m not.
"TheD0k_2many toys 2little time" (thed0ck)
02/23/2017 at 11:39, STARS: 1
natural selection my friend :)
i could go on about how our society has become weak and lazy and cannot do anything by themselves anymore...
"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
02/23/2017 at 13:52, STARS: 0
No it is not. It’s not natural selection when they kill your mother, father, sibling, grandparent, friend, etc.