by "HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
Published 02/17/2017 at 12:24
by "HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
Published 02/17/2017 at 12:24
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You’re telling me that the unibody evoque convertible [4525 lbs] weighs 200 lbs MORE than the body on frame solid axles 4 door wrangler rubicon [4340 lbs]?
Here are the two side by side for comparison
"Nibby" (nibby68)
02/17/2017 at 12:27, STARS: 1
that LR ... thing is a complete abomination and anyone who buys one needs to have their head examined
"aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe" (emaxxbl)
02/17/2017 at 12:33, STARS: 2
i like it....
"TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
02/17/2017 at 12:33, STARS: 1
I actually like the Evoque convertible, my only wish is that it had a two speed t-case.
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
02/17/2017 at 12:33, STARS: 1
Yeah, but to put it in perspective, that’s only 4.6%. Because now 2 door, 4 seat convertibles should weigh more than my 8 person minivan.
"Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
02/17/2017 at 12:34, STARS: 2
To be fair the LR has a luxury interior and acessories. The Jeep is just some plastic stadium seating and flimsy doors.
"Nibby" (nibby68)
02/17/2017 at 12:35, STARS: 1
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
02/17/2017 at 12:35, STARS: 1
whats intesting is that it uses the same AWD system as the KL cherokee but Jeep has exclusive rights to the 2 speed version for a set number of years. it could be made to be a real off roader.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
02/17/2017 at 12:35, STARS: 0
“Convertible unibody” with modern safety standards means pepper your angus where weight is concerned. With little or no normal benefit from roof strength, they have to add a frame back on via unibody structure additions - in other words, you can think of it as having to take a unibody car *and then putting it on a frame*, as opposed to just putting “a body” on a frame. If said unibody platform is already a lardo, then the effect is magnified.
In the old days one would just add stiffening until the doors quit jamming.
"benjrblant" (benjblant)
02/17/2017 at 12:35, STARS: 1
Those roll bars on the Land Rover add a lot of mass.
Wait...
"uofime-2" (uofime-2)
02/17/2017 at 12:37, STARS: 0
lux-o-barge vs rattle trap
"Ash78, voting early and often" (ash78)
02/17/2017 at 12:37, STARS: 0
The Venn Diagram of people cross-shopping the two probably looks like a pair of boobs. Unibodies can get heavy quickly, especially with all the bracing they have to do for convertibles. Anyway, the new Evoque makes me suddenly appreciate my neighbor’s Murano CrossCabriolet a little more.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
02/17/2017 at 12:38, STARS: 0
luxury...barge. yeah that works
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
02/17/2017 at 12:39, STARS: 0
Oh I’m not saying they are being cross shopped, I just want to know why a 2 door unibody coupe weighs a couple of passengers away from my 7 seat land cruiser.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
02/17/2017 at 12:41, STARS: 0
Luxury trappings add very little weight.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
02/17/2017 at 12:44, STARS: 0
I get that, still...man alive thats a lot of lard for a 2 seat city runabout with a 2.0 engine.
"TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
02/17/2017 at 12:49, STARS: 0
Who knows, once that runs out maybe we’ll see Evoques with lo-range (I hope this happens).
I don’t get the hate on the Evoque. It’s no less an off roader than the Renegade or Cherokee because let’s face it, the vast majority of people buying those aren’t heading out to Moab. At least with the Evoque, I can drop the roof when I drive onto the beach.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
02/17/2017 at 12:50, STARS: 1
“Hey, let’s design our new platform with heavy doors, firewall, and subframe structure to boost the impact rating and make it quiet and feel “quality”. After all, we’ll never have to make a convertible.” - Mr. A. Juggins, Solihull
"Tripper" (tripe46)
02/17/2017 at 12:52, STARS: 0
Where can I get that bathtub?
"benjrblant" (benjblant)
02/17/2017 at 12:58, STARS: 1
It’s pronounced PLAS-tique.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
02/17/2017 at 13:08, STARS: 1
I doubt we’ll see a low range evoque. Land Rover is under no false assumptions that their evoque buyers want anything to do with the outdoors
"TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
02/17/2017 at 13:18, STARS: 0
I guess it all depends on platform sharing and if it brings down the cost per unit.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
02/17/2017 at 13:21, STARS: 0
Lets not mince words though, if they made the LR2 with a 2 speed system...and well...I would have bought one.
Hell, even the disco sport would be pretty cool with a 2 speed system. The evoque is just not that car.
"Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
02/17/2017 at 13:28, STARS: 0
So this is a case of added complexity increases weight.
"TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
02/17/2017 at 13:50, STARS: 0
True it’s not now, but people wheel Freelanders these days. Hell even the Land Rover rags are starting to come out with how to’s for turning Freelanders into cheap off road toys.
I’m pretty sure we’ll see people wheeling Disco Sports and Evoques at some point in the next 10 years and Land Rover is well aware that their vehicles are truly taken off road around the 3rd owner anyway.
There is a good chance I’m wrong but then again McGovern can’t stay head designer for ever.
"Mattbob" (mattbob)
02/17/2017 at 14:00, STARS: 1
From the wiki “Engineers used advanced weight saving techniques to bring the total kerb weight down to under 1,670 kg (3,680 lb). The use of aluminium for the bonnet and the roof, and composite plastics for the one-piece tailgate helped produce a vehicle weighing 100 kg (220 lb) less than the Freelander .”
Hahaha, advanced weight saving techniques. That’s like drinking a diet coke with your Big Mac.