I might be crazy, but

by "El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone)
Published 02/16/2017 at 13:18

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What if Opel’s future acquisition by PSA is a piece in a plan designed by Carlos Ghosn to take over the (car) world?

Carlos Tavares was his right hand for years, until after one silly comment he had to leave and slam the door?

Shortly after leaving Renault-Nissan, Tavares moves to PSA Peugeot Citroën, the other big French car maker. After applying Ghosn tactics, Tavares turns around PSA from heavily bleeding cash, to being into the position of buying another automaker.

Meanwhile Renault-Nissan is integrating Mitsubishi in its network, and posts global growth for most of its brands.

Now comes the question. What if the whole Tavares departure was just for show, and the first step from a plan to create the biggest automaker in the world. An automaker so big, it would combine Renault, Nissan, Infiniti, Peugeot, Citroën, DS, Opel, Mitsubishi, Dacia,Datsun and Lada?

Replies (19)

"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
02/16/2017 at 13:22, STARS: 1

I welcome French domination

"Ash78, voting early and often" (ash78)
02/16/2017 at 13:24, STARS: 3

My mechanic only works 34 hours a week, but bills 50?

"PotbellyJoe and 42 others" (potbellyjoe)
02/16/2017 at 13:25, STARS: 0

This is like the gospel of Judas wherein he claimed that his role was required of him all along.

I’d be more apt to believing that it is an Edward Lewis style revenge act to make a man who slighted him unemployed.

I love mixed analogies!

"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
02/16/2017 at 13:25, STARS: 0

Those other 16 hours are for making Citroen suspension fluid using black magic.

"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
02/16/2017 at 13:30, STARS: 0

What if it’s Sergio Marchionne attempting to make room within GM for his little car maker by squeezing Opel out?

"FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem" (fuelstratifiedinjection)
02/16/2017 at 13:32, STARS: 0

Nope, several sick patients don’t make a healthy company. All I can see is overcapacity and cannibalism within your theory.

"BvdV - The Dutch Engineer" (dutchengineer)
02/16/2017 at 13:35, STARS: 1

If that means the whole world is going to look like our driveway, I’m okay with that.

(Twingo, 308 SW, 208, also the grey car is the Opel Corsa of our neighbours, who also own a Citroën C4 Picasso)

"BvdV - The Dutch Engineer" (dutchengineer)
02/16/2017 at 13:37, STARS: 1

Well I guess only Opel is really sick, due to the way it was ‘abused’ by GM over the years. Maybe Mitsubishi is slightly sick too. But the rest is kinda heathy right? Or am I missing something?

"crowmolly" (crowmolly)
02/16/2017 at 13:45, STARS: 1

What if it’s just a big troll job to make a car company called “SOAP”?

"FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem" (fuelstratifiedinjection)
02/16/2017 at 13:47, STARS: 1

It’s highly extaggerated, I know, but I’m still not fully convinced why PSA should buy Opel and why some sort of “all star” auto super group would be such a good idea. Just look at how GM ended up with a million brands under their umbrella.

What grinds my gears with this whole PSA/Opel merger talks is the horrible PR job from all sides just as Opel is about to launch three important products. I don’t think potential customers like instability.

"BvdV - The Dutch Engineer" (dutchengineer)
02/16/2017 at 13:59, STARS: 1

I agree with that a super auto group is a bad idea, fun to have a discussion about, but a bad idea none the less.

I agree that the whole PSA/Opel merger talks aren’t really beneficial to stability. PSA was barely able to survive a few years ago, so I’m not even sure if they could pull it off, or would just repeat the 70s Citroën story, with all it’s merger tries and sales of brands, and bankrupcies.

"fintail" (fintail)
02/16/2017 at 14:07, STARS: 1

Yay, faux floating C-pillars and drony CVTs for everyone.

"MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s" (mastermario)
02/16/2017 at 14:49, STARS: 1

You’re being generous. He works 24 hours, strikes for 10, then bills for 50.

"BritishLeyland™" (leylandcars)
02/16/2017 at 14:53, STARS: 1

Global Leyland?

"MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s" (mastermario)
02/16/2017 at 15:01, STARS: 1

"FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem" (fuelstratifiedinjection)
02/16/2017 at 15:03, STARS: 1

It does sound good in theory but too many brands would compete with each other in Europe in the same market. Just imagine Renault, Peugeot, Citroën, Opel and Dacia sharing platforms, engines and much more while competing. VW does this with Seat, Skoda and Audi but it was a long and expensive way and Seat just recently transformed into something justifyable.

But on the upside, a super group could pump out some interesting cars. Imagine all the brands having access to each others platforms. Alpine with Nissan GTR bits? Maybe something like that.

"MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s" (mastermario)
02/16/2017 at 15:06, STARS: 0

Then they can make a threatening campaign ad with the tag line, “Don’t drop the SOAP”

"BvdV - The Dutch Engineer" (dutchengineer)
02/16/2017 at 15:56, STARS: 1

Well, to be honest everything is designed for ‘ants’ over here in the Netherlands, even the country itsself, haha.

"gmporschenut also a fan of hondas" (gmporschenut)
02/16/2017 at 20:11, STARS: 1

worked out great for AMC