by "E90M3" (e90m3)
Published 02/09/2017 at 22:10
by "E90M3" (e90m3)
Published 02/09/2017 at 22:10
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I remember looking at them online when they were released in 2009, but back then I was a college student and didn’t have the means to get any BMW. For some reason I really liked the 335d, I think I might have to get one of these someday.
Ironically, me car shopping now is much like me car shopping back in college, I don’t really have the means to go out and get a car.
"Orange Exige" (OrangeExige)
02/09/2017 at 22:13, STARS: 0
Those wheels O_O
Aren’t they from an M3 GTR or something? I love em so much. Perfect BMW wheels.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 22:14, STARS: 1
Style 359s, I really want to get a set for my M3. I was thinking about getting a set back in 2014, then I received a pretty large pay cut so that didn’t happen. They were originally on the M3 CSL.
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
02/09/2017 at 22:20, STARS: 0
The guy who lives in the house behind us traded in his 911 on one of these back when they were new.it was really quick off the line, low-end torque for days. Doesn’t sound sweet, but it’s probably much more practical that the gas powered version.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 22:22, STARS: 1
I test drove one when I was thinking about replacing the 128i cause I was bored of it and that torque is addictive. They pull like trains at highway speeds.
"random001" (random001)
02/09/2017 at 22:25, STARS: 0
What, no 335cd?!
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
02/09/2017 at 22:26, STARS: 0
You won’t have to worry about depreciation when Diesel-gate 2.0 hits!
"KFN" (kfn)
02/09/2017 at 22:27, STARS: 0
Treat yourself! http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1272387 (no affiliation)
I’m tempted, just to have an extra set.
"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
02/09/2017 at 22:27, STARS: 0
y u no touring?
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 22:33, STARS: 0
I wish BMW had sold a 335d wagon in the US.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 22:35, STARS: 0
The BMW uses DEF, actually when they caught VW cheating they were also investigating a diesel BMW X5, which shared the same engine as the 335d. The X5 was returning around what was expected, but the VW was off the charts.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 22:36, STARS: 0
Shit, I need those. I’ve got the money, but I don’t think I can justify spending 1800 on wheels when I don’t have a job, however I might have one as soon as tomorrow, so I might need these.
"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
02/09/2017 at 22:37, STARS: 0
I don’t know if it was an E90, but I swear to God I’ve seen at least several diesel 3-series wagons around here.
"e36Jeff now drives a ZHP" (e36jeff)
02/09/2017 at 22:39, STARS: 0
I would love to get my hands on a 335d, especially when you can chip it to 300+hp.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 22:40, STARS: 0
Do I look like a European to you?
Also, I’m more of a sedan person, that’s why I got an E90 M3 as opposed to an E92 M3.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 22:42, STARS: 1
Has to be an F31. My friend actually had one. http://oppositelock.kinja.com/it-has-happened-1783142551
"66671 - 200 [METRIC] my dash" (66671)
02/09/2017 at 22:42, STARS: 0
Ever since I saw this one take I’ve wanted a 335I with a single turbo as a fun weekend car. (I know it’s not the same but relateable enough for me to share I guess lol).
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"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 22:44, STARS: 0
So I’ve heard. I think a modded one of these would be so fun. They’re auto only but that would mean my sister and I could split driving time between the city we’ve both live in and the parents house, assuming i get this job.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 22:45, STARS: 1
Personally I’d go for a 135i or 135is. That would be an excellent weekend car.
"e36Jeff now drives a ZHP" (e36jeff)
02/09/2017 at 22:49, STARS: 0
I really just want it for its combo of excellent fuel economy plus absurd power when you want it. And a part of me just wants to take a chipped 335d to a track day and run down a bunch of 335i’s and the occasional M3.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 22:50, STARS: 0
That’s about the same reasons I want it, fuel economy and power. Plus I love the E90.
"RallyWrench" (rndlitebmw)
02/09/2017 at 22:52, STARS: 0
Just make sure it’s already had a de-carbon service (with likely replacement of the intake manifold and valve cover because they’re plastic and cannot be cleaned deeply without damaging them, and the valve cover is also the lower intake manifold), glow plugs (under the intake, with controller) and injectors (which die regularly and must come out to do the valve cover), lest ye spend many thousands of dollars to do them. Oh, and I’ve seen one break the lower timing chain to the intermediate gear/injection pump drive and smash the valves, no warning.
"RallyWrench" (rndlitebmw)
02/09/2017 at 22:53, STARS: 0
328d’s, probably.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 22:55, STARS: 0
That’s good to know, I hadn’t heard of these issues, I know it seems the DPF is a problem spot on these cars. I’ll do some more research if I get serious on getting one of these. I already own an out of warranty BMW, I don’t need another money pit.
"RallyWrench" (rndlitebmw)
02/09/2017 at 23:07, STARS: 0
I haven’t seen an M57 need a DPF yet, but have heard of the issue. I’m lumping 2-3 335d’s, 6-7 X5 35d’s, and I think 1 535d that we see together here, btw. The timing chain was a weird one, I didn’t find any evidence that it’s a common problem at all, and that X5 was past 100k. Given BMW’s recent track record with chain guide issues in gas engines it’s worrisome though.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 23:13, STARS: 0
Well, it’s all worth looking into. I think I might look into a high mileage car with all the issues taken care of.
"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
02/09/2017 at 23:35, STARS: 0
I had one. Luckily it was under a CPO warranty as it was the most unreliable BMW I’ve ever owned. It was in the shop the first month I owned it, then one of the turbos started leaking oil. It was fun to drive, but the X1 I traded it in on is just as fast and gets about the same mpg on account of that ZF8. I do miss dem torques tho.
"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
02/09/2017 at 23:36, STARS: 0
This man speaks the truth.
-former 335d owner
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 23:36, STARS: 0
Does the X1 really get that good of highway MPGs?
"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
02/09/2017 at 23:41, STARS: 0
It’s rated at 34mpg, but I’ve seen 36 when babying it.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/09/2017 at 23:45, STARS: 0
Hmm, the X1 might be worth looking into then.
"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
02/09/2017 at 23:48, STARS: 0
You should be able to get the same mpg from any of the turbo fours with the auto trans. I’d go with a wagon if you can find one. The X1 is ugly (its my wife’s car).
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/10/2017 at 00:00, STARS: 0
This might be true, but I’ve got a thing for the E90s. Although I might consider an F31 328d.
"random001" (random001)
02/10/2017 at 06:01, STARS: 0
I was making a bad joke about us not getting the diesel vert, even if there is such a thing. Is that a thing? That seems like it could be a bad idea...
"mjswee" (mjswee)
02/10/2017 at 08:30, STARS: 0
I currently own a 2009 335d and use it as my daily. I got it CPO with around 45k miles on it and have put 50k on it since (also had like $15k in depreciation in the first year of ownership as the carbon buildup problem started becoming known right after I bought it).
It had carbon buildup issues while under CPO and it took the shop 4 visits before diagnosing and fixing it even though I told them what the issue was on the first visit. I also had an issue with a cracked DEF tank covered under CPO.
After that, its been reliable in the past 30k miles, only regular maintenance needed, but I’m a little leery as I approach 100k miles.
From what I’ve researched, the carbon buildup seems to be more of a problem on cars that are not driven long distance at speeds, so a short commute in the city is worse than a 15 mile commute on the highway.
I have a JBD piggyback tuner on mine and it pulls for days while getting close to 35mpg.
"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction)
02/10/2017 at 09:07, STARS: 0
My boss also had carbon issues with his.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/10/2017 at 09:19, STARS: 0
I believe it does exist. I don’t know why it’d be a bad thing, it’s not like VW where they cheated to get around emissions.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/10/2017 at 09:26, STARS: 0
How much would have that carbon build up issue been to fix out of pocket?
If I was going to get a 335d, it would be because I would be doing a good amount of highway miles, like 40-60 each day. I’ve also heard that if you don’t drive them hard at times they have either DPF/carbon build up issues, as the higher flow rate through the engine when you up in the rev range helps clear it out. That could be wrong though, but I know if you let a F250 diesel idle all day it’ll produce a lot of smoke when you start driving as it can’t regen the DPF when it’s stationary.
I’ve been looking at them and there are a couple that pop up with over 150k on them, almost be tempted by one of those as long as all the maintenance has been taken care of. Only issue you’d really run into would be things that aren’t covered under normal maintenance like shocks and wheel bearings.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/10/2017 at 09:27, STARS: 0
Any idea what the cause of the carbon build up is? I’ve heard if you don’t drive them hard at times it can lead to DPF issues as the higher flow through the DPF at higher RPM helps clear it out.
"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction)
02/10/2017 at 09:52, STARS: 1
Here’s a discussion thread: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1114081
"mjswee" (mjswee)
02/10/2017 at 09:57, STARS: 0
I think at the time, it would be around $1000-1500 for a cleaning. Not sure if its changed in price any since then, as I haven’t researched. I think some people have tried to DIY it since then also.
As long as it doesn’t have carbon buildup issues when you get it, your commute should be fine. And you’re right that an Italian tune-up does help.
If I don’t get rid of mine (have been going back and forth for two years, just not sure what to replace it with to get the mpgs and torque), and I start throwing codes related to emissions equipment, I will probably take it to http://bimmerperformancecenter.com/bpc-diesel/ and get all the emissions equipment taken out.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/10/2017 at 10:02, STARS: 0
I guess if I do go the 335d route, I’ll do some more research.
I mean they seem like pretty fantastic cars if you’re going to be putting a bunch of miles on them. Even on the short drive I’ve had in one, the torque was addictive.
"random001" (random001)
02/10/2017 at 12:07, STARS: 1
I just imagine recirculating diesel fumes into the cabin, but my experience with diesel is sitting next to diesel trucks in traffic and hating life...
"Liam Farrell" (ackrunner)
02/10/2017 at 18:03, STARS: 0
But doesn’t that have the engine from a European 320d
"jdrgoat - Ponticrack?" (jdrgoat)
02/10/2017 at 23:11, STARS: 0
I still like the 335d for those torque and mpg reasons... I test drove one, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Definitely want one with the m-sport package, which means 2011 only.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/11/2017 at 05:10, STARS: 0
I believe it does.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/11/2017 at 05:11, STARS: 0
I didn’t realize M-sport was a 2011 only option. It seems like they’ve got some serious problems, but I seriously want one.
"Liam Farrell" (ackrunner)
02/11/2017 at 06:30, STARS: 0
Thats a pretty dumb thing to do.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/11/2017 at 06:33, STARS: 0
I think it’s cause it sounds better than 320d.
"Liam Farrell" (ackrunner)
02/11/2017 at 06:55, STARS: 0
But it is kind of like shooting your selfie the foot. Giving the slow car the name of a faster car, it ruins their reputation of diesel cars.
"jdrgoat - Ponticrack?" (jdrgoat)
02/14/2017 at 09:35, STARS: 0
Yeah, the high mileage maintenance (mostly just the carbon build-up, right?) would take away from the enjoyment some... but that torque! On my test drive, I stomped on it up to 80mph. I though to myself, “self, that was quick and I don’t know if I need quicker than that.” Then I replied, “self, you sound old saying that!”
I remember how hard it was to find one for sale on autotrader when I was watching the market, optioned how I wanted. M-sport, red white or blue (maybe silver, but I really wanted an actual color which means only red or blue), and no iDrive. Needle in a haystack, I tell ya.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/14/2017 at 10:36, STARS: 0
I would just worry that it would be a really expensive fix and I won’t be making any where near the kind of money I was making before, so a 4k bill turns into a headache where before it was something I’d be like well damn that sucks. So because of that, I don’t think I’m going to get one.
Good luck finding an M-sport with those criteria. Most M-sports I’ve seen have been fully loaded.
"jdrgoat - Ponticrack?" (jdrgoat)
02/14/2017 at 11:08, STARS: 0
The next option on my list, as long as I would be suffering with an automatic anyways? CTS V-sport. Same amount of torque, more (much more) horsepower, much newer, and prettier.
Also, they come with these neat new things, “turn signal stalks.” :D
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/14/2017 at 11:10, STARS: 0
I think I’m just going to get another 128i or a 328i and call it a day. They’re both right around 15k and I’m not making oil money anymore other wise I’d probably be looking at a C63 AMG.
"jdrgoat - Ponticrack?" (jdrgoat)
02/14/2017 at 11:20, STARS: 0
I do like the idea of a manual 128i a lot. As long as it’s a color.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
02/14/2017 at 11:22, STARS: 0
This was my 128i, too bad it was an auto. Apart from that it was fantastic.
