by "BeauM" (BeauM)
Published 02/09/2017 at 10:59
by "BeauM" (BeauM)
Published 02/09/2017 at 10:59
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1.5" x 2" aluminum bar stock as k-member spacers. The steel strut extensions will either be gusseted or re-made from angle iron.
"Azrek" (azrek)
02/09/2017 at 11:02, STARS: 3
Is this so more innocent bystanders can be sucked under the tires? Maximum scoop effort? :D
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
02/09/2017 at 11:11, STARS: 1
That’s exactly how I was thinking of lifting a macpherson-strut car but googling couldn’t find anyone else that had tried it. Cool.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
02/09/2017 at 11:13, STARS: 4
A REAL MUSTANG HAS TWO CONTROL ARMS PER SIDE AND NOT STRUTS WHARGARGLBL
You might think it strange that I have lines in the sand on suspension and not engine swaps, but I’ve got to have standards. Even if they make no sense.
"Sweet Trav" (thespunbearing)
02/09/2017 at 11:15, STARS: 2
This doesnt look dangerous at all...
"BeauM" (BeauM)
02/09/2017 at 11:17, STARS: 1
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
02/09/2017 at 11:36, STARS: 0
The goofy thing here is that first-gen Stangs are not, actually, MacPherson strut cars. This one only is because insanity. The appropriate(?) way to lift a normal first-gen would be to lower the upper arm, do a frame mod, go to a coilover, and alter the LCA saddle and the track rods to reach lower.
Or one could do what cool kids do and go with freestanding Mustang II kit + crossmember, mounted at any height desired.
The solution in the main post is a neat trick with off-the-shelf parts and may actually handle better than the original (due to intentional sabotage for understeer in 1960, long story), but it’s:
“not the right way, harrumph - RamblinRover”.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
02/09/2017 at 11:56, STARS: 0
The suspension in that first picture... what in the hell. That looks like the bulkiest suspension imaginable.
"BeauM" (BeauM)
02/09/2017 at 11:59, STARS: 0
I gotta clarify, this in on a fox mustang, not the 68 :)
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
02/09/2017 at 12:10, STARS: 1
All the pieces involved are pretty light. Both control arms are stamped metal. The five direct disadvantages I can think of are, (1) how high the weight of the spring is, (2) a harder to optimize caster change under compression, (3) a harder time placing the bump stop, (4) potential limits on tire space, and (5) a near requirement for trailing pittman arms instead of leading. None of those are all that important in and of themselves, and there are advantages to the design.
First off, UEL-enabled good camber change*. Second, safety - all the ball joints are under load, so failures aren’t very dangerous - and the design is pretty rugged and resists several other kinds of catastrophic failure. Third, since the pivot is located fairly low on the shock tower, the stresses in the top of the shock tower aren’t as severe or in as many axes as they would be with a strut. Fourth (this is one that doesn’t have to do with performance), the design enabled use of a tall spring with a very high preload, which makes for a soft ride with limited roll - though this can mean garbage handling**.
*The design enables control of camber change by control arm length and relative heights of pivots. The majority of Mustangs, however, never had the positions corrected for performance away from the daily driver position.
**Another holdover from the daily driver requirements. The other thing on anybody’s list for improving handling should be spring rate.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
02/09/2017 at 12:11, STARS: 0
Got it. I’ll argue for a Mustang II kit on such a monster, however, and continue clamoring for double A-arm ueber alles.
"BeauM" (BeauM)
02/09/2017 at 12:16, STARS: 1
I would love to do double A arm like this guy did with Ranger spindles. But I know next to nothing about suspension geometry, and don’t trust myself to make custom a-arms.
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/09/2017 at 12:17, STARS: 0
If taller shocks aren’t an option, how about spacers for the shock’s top mount to go with the k-member spacers? Works for Subarus.
"BeauM" (BeauM)
02/09/2017 at 12:19, STARS: 0
I thought about that, but I’m running caster camber plates up top. Doing it this way puts the strut just a bit taller than stock, much like it would be if I was running lowering springs.
"Sweet Trav" (thespunbearing)
02/09/2017 at 12:20, STARS: 0
what is your purpose for doing this?
"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
02/09/2017 at 12:27, STARS: 0
So long as you don’t run out of camber adjustment and have to get a longer lower a-arm, I can see your method working then. I would gusset the Hell out of that extender though ;)
"BeauM" (BeauM)
02/09/2017 at 12:44, STARS: 0
Yup, the lower a-arm is from an SN95 Mustang, so it’s around .75" or so longer than stock.
"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
02/09/2017 at 16:27, STARS: 0
To have a great time
"MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner" (montegoman562)
03/15/2017 at 10:33, STARS: 0
Holy shit man I had not idea this madness was happening.
The Rally Capri might need to have words with you.