by "TheJWT" (thejwt)
Published 02/07/2017 at 18:44
by "TheJWT" (thejwt)
Published 02/07/2017 at 18:44
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I can confirm and I’m sure Bman and others can as well.
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"CB" (jrcb)
02/07/2017 at 18:46, STARS: 14
This chart is bad and it should feel bad. Is that how many hours a day? A week? A year? What is this nonsense? Get out of here, chart.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
02/07/2017 at 18:48, STARS: 1
and in 657th position - Communications!
"TheJWT" (thejwt)
02/07/2017 at 18:48, STARS: 4
22 hours/day is not uncommon in architecture school
"TheJWT" (thejwt)
02/07/2017 at 18:49, STARS: 1
Making 657x the money as us
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
02/07/2017 at 18:49, STARS: 0
haha, not with a bachelors degree we aren’t.
"CB" (jrcb)
02/07/2017 at 18:50, STARS: 0
That sounds absurd.
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
02/07/2017 at 18:50, STARS: 2
Sitting at a planning board meeting. It’s 6:49pm I’ve been at the office since 8am
"Jarrett - [BRZ Boi]" (jarrettw)
02/07/2017 at 18:51, STARS: 0
My university had shower facilities in the architecture building. Fortunately, I didn’t ever have to go in there.
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
02/07/2017 at 18:52, STARS: 5
No source and no units? No wonder it takes so long to get the job done.
"LongbowMkII" (longbowmkii)
02/07/2017 at 18:54, STARS: 1
I assume class hours/semester
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/07/2017 at 19:02, STARS: 1
It’s the damn truth is what it is.
"punkgoose17" (punkgoose17)
02/07/2017 at 19:02, STARS: 3
I think they have lower rates of finding a job out of school then a CivE. Be an engineer kids. You will get a job in your field and can afford to pay your student loans.
"RPM esq." (rpm3)
02/07/2017 at 19:05, STARS: 1
If you click through to the article, it’s time spent studying outside of class. It’s also limited to undergraduates.
"RPM esq." (rpm3)
02/07/2017 at 19:06, STARS: 1
It’s time spent studying outside of class per week.
"CB" (jrcb)
02/07/2017 at 19:07, STARS: 0
Well at that rate, I worked a few hundred hours over my degree. So clearly I worked harder than architects.
See what happens when things don’t get labelled? Nothing means anything. This chart is still garbage.
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/07/2017 at 19:07, STARS: 1
An 80 hour week was practically a vacation for me.
Other majors: “ I stayed up till 10pm working on this paper, I’m so tired”
Archs (casually sipping coffee): “I haven’t slept in 4 years”
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
02/07/2017 at 19:07, STARS: 1
In all fairness, it takes me about six hours to draw a cube in AutoCAD, so if there are students like me studying architecture, that would heavily skew the results.
"RPM esq." (rpm3)
02/07/2017 at 19:07, STARS: 0
So, these are weekly study hours outside of class for undergraduates, apparently. Not work hours once you’re out of school, and not study hours in grad school if your field requires it. So: maybe study architecture! Or maybe not.
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/07/2017 at 19:11, STARS: 0
Haha
*But for real, you probably do...
"CB" (jrcb)
02/07/2017 at 19:11, STARS: 0
Good to know. Thanks for the clarification.
"Vítor" (vitorcesar)
02/07/2017 at 19:13, STARS: 0
It’s all mentioned in the article. The source is Indiana University’s NSSE, and the numbers are how many hours the student study outside of class per week.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
02/07/2017 at 19:14, STARS: 1
I can confirm from a distance. All of my friends and associates that went to the architecture school disappeared freshman year a couple weeks after school started, not even a picture on a milk carton to mark their passing. When the end of Spring finals came, they emerged as pasty, emaciated leftovers from a Twilight movie casting call.
"Under_Score" (tomtheatum)
02/07/2017 at 19:14, STARS: 0
Isn’t architecture just designing houses and stuff? For real though?
"My X-type is too a real Jaguar" (TomSlick)
02/07/2017 at 19:15, STARS: 0
There’s a reason Mike Brady had a drafting table in his house and Mrs Brady was never caught fooling around with Greg.
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
02/07/2017 at 19:23, STARS: 1
In typical kinks fashion, the embedded link didn’t show up until 10 minutes after the post. I wonder second rate web design fits on this list.
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/07/2017 at 19:26, STARS: 1
No, Architecture is being every single person who will ever use a space, predicting the future, simultaneously also being an engineer, a lawyer, and a sociologist, and also designing everything you will ever touch and see. We don’t design buildings, we design all of the environment and the spaces within.
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
02/07/2017 at 19:31, STARS: 0
How do they know how much time the Leisure Studies majors really were spending on their major outside of class? “Sure, it looks like I’m watching a tv and drinking a beer, but this is homework.”
"unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins)" (unclevanos)
02/07/2017 at 19:38, STARS: 0
Mechanical engineering here, I don’t get sleep until the weekend. The archies on campus are holed up in the building that smells like ikea and crayons.
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/07/2017 at 19:38, STARS: 0
Did grad school, was just as many hours, actual work once graduated is 40-60 hrs most weeks.
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
02/07/2017 at 19:42, STARS: 0
I’m still low enough on the totem pole that I don’t have too many late night meetings... yet.
"John-Palazzo" (John-Palazzo)
02/07/2017 at 19:42, STARS: 0
One of the reasons I transfered from architecture to design was the insane workload required from the students. I bet it also has one of biggest depression ratios amongst students out of any major. I still think about going back sometimes, but the insanity of it all always keeps me from doing so.
"Sam" (samwellington)
02/07/2017 at 19:59, STARS: 0
Don’t worry, my dad has a degree that isn’t even really offered anymore - telecommunications.
"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
02/07/2017 at 20:00, STARS: 0
Aero was pretty brutal. During my senior design class I worked on that project 40 hours per week outside of 6 hours of class a week. And that was for that class, I took 15 hours that semester.
"Cash Rewards" (cashrewards)
02/07/2017 at 20:07, STARS: 2
The architecture program at my undergrad hat cots in their building, so kids could stay overnight and not have to walk back across campus. Us engineers actively mocked the B-school, but even we didn’t say shit about architecture.
"daender" (daender)
02/07/2017 at 20:13, STARS: 1
Civil engineer here, thanks for designing good-looking buildings/structures that we have to sadly nerf most of the time to meet or exceed building codes...or just for practicality reasons.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
02/07/2017 at 20:19, STARS: 1
Thank God I’m going into journalism.
"TheTurbochargedSquirrel" (thatsquirrel)
02/07/2017 at 20:30, STARS: 0
Meanwhile the Electrical Engineers crank through their school work and then go do this for fun:
Bonus points to any Oppo who can name what this circuit is doing.
"RPM esq." (rpm3)
02/07/2017 at 20:36, STARS: 0
See, there’s the full picture that’ll really help the kids.
On a side note, this chart is weird and irrelevant for professions that
require
grad school—which I realize is not really its purpose, but is still a little strange. Often people don’t major in something called the same thing as their professional degree as an undergraduate, and the hours are meaningless as it pertains to grad school. For one example: every doctor whose undergraduate degree was in biology or something. For another: I’m a lawyer, and the lawyers I know studied all kinds of things in college, but I’ve never heard of a “law” undergraduate degree in the U.S. And the hour estimate for the major, whatever it is, is a joke compared to law school.
"tromoly" (tromoly)
02/07/2017 at 20:37, STARS: 2
"tromoly" (tromoly)
02/07/2017 at 20:44, STARS: 0
Hmm, ATMega8, some CAN chips, something AVR, and an Ethernet jack.
IOT controller for something?
"TheTurbochargedSquirrel" (thatsquirrel)
02/07/2017 at 20:47, STARS: 0
Close. This is the CAN interface half of a circuit I am designing which will monitor the state of charge, voltage, current, and temperature of a lead acid battery and report it back into the CAN network on my schools new Formula Hybrid car.
"tromoly" (tromoly)
02/07/2017 at 21:22, STARS: 0
Oh Hybrid, the red-headed, nerdy yet still cool stepchild of FSAE.
What ICE are you using?
"TheJWT" (thejwt)
02/07/2017 at 21:41, STARS: 0
Can confirm depression
"jvirgs drives a Subaru" (jvirgs)
02/07/2017 at 21:45, STARS: 0
Accounting is highly understated.
Edit: I misunderstood and thought it was actual real life work. 14.7 hrs is reasonable for what I put in during undergrad and grad school
"TheTurbochargedSquirrel" (thatsquirrel)
02/07/2017 at 21:47, STARS: 0
We are actually running in the all electric category this year, so no ICE.
"Architect" (Architect)
02/07/2017 at 21:55, STARS: 2
Just wrapped a project I was “managing”. I worked nights and weekends for TWO MONTHS to get it out the door. This post is 100% factual.
"John-Palazzo" (John-Palazzo)
02/07/2017 at 22:13, STARS: 0
Yeah, most of the friends I made during my period at architecture have been through it, and it really, really sucks.
"ThePenguin" (ThatOtherGuy7)
02/07/2017 at 22:14, STARS: 0
Ha ha my major is in 3rd place...
"FromCanadaWithLove" (fromcanadawithlove)
02/07/2017 at 22:15, STARS: 0
That’s the extreme, though. 22 hours maybe at pin-up week, but not during the regular semester. Also, in practice it’s different. My hours are roughly 8:30am to 5:30pm each day. The firms and students that pull crazy hours all the time tend to do worse work, in my opinion.
"Shmevans" (icantdriveanyslower)
02/07/2017 at 22:50, STARS: 0
Yay #3! :(
"tromoly" (tromoly)
02/07/2017 at 23:45, STARS: 0
Interesting. Best wishes with your build!
"merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc" (merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc)
02/08/2017 at 07:33, STARS: 0
I thought about architecture as a double major with construction management, but just stuck to construction. It was a good decision, mostly. Still have the long hours, but better compensation and more job opportunities out there once you get your first 5 years in. Lots of travel though, so that’s either good or bad depending on your situation.
"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction)
02/08/2017 at 10:56, STARS: 1
As someone who considered architecture and instead chose CivE as the “safe” choice for the reasons you mention here, this is only good advice if such a career won’t crush your soul. After three years, I knew that’s where I was heading and pulled up anchor. Ended up in a graphic design program and got my BFA. Down the road got a postgraduate certificate in GIS. Job for past decade plus has been software & mapping support for a group of geologists, and I do freelance logo design work on the side. I’ll be completely debt free this year (including mortgage). Worked out alright...
"Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
02/08/2017 at 14:23, STARS: 0
Funny, as a Comm major I was thinking about returning to school to get a degree/masters in architecture. Hmm, maybe not...