by "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
Published 02/06/2017 at 18:24
by "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
Published 02/06/2017 at 18:24
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I was watching Eric’s video and realized there’s more to the problem than just styling. Another staple of American classics at least, is how easily they can be upgraded and “hot rod” a car. If you have an inline 6 mustang you can just swap in 351 Windsor for relatively low cost and you have a very desirable vehicle. But think about a W-body Impala.
For the sake of argument let’s say this has the looks to be a classic one day. What can be done to hot rod it? It would be difficult to swap another engine into, being a FWD car. Sure there’s the blower from the SS model, but you still don’t have the variety of options you do with older cars. Not to mention the more general problems of needing to tune the ECU for most performance mods. I’ll reference another one of Eric’s video. When he began his Fairmount build he looked into putting an ecoboost engine into it (Keep in mind this was a few years ago.) And the people at Ford basically told him it’d be impossible, because the engine requires so much data and electrical stuff from the rest of the car it couldn’t run in something as analog as the fairmount. Sure as soon as someone makes a standalone ECU that problems solved, but that’s over a grand and requires someone to tune it (I believe Eric’s problem was that at the time no one new enough about the engine to program a standalone ECU for the it.) Overall it’s a much more expensive and requires much more specific knowledge as opposed to a carburetor.
Not to mention the more philosophical problem of what makes a modern car “cool?”
Everyone knows older classics to be big, with torquey V8s, and of course the iconic styling. But as time goes on cars are getting smaller (We’re talking American here), more fuel efficient, and more homogeneous. The point I’m trying to make is that there’s a smaller difference in character between modern non-performance cars than cars of old. So what attributes of a modern car will we find desirable in 20 to 30 years to make something a classic?
One company who’s cars I think will become future classics, more so than others. Is Subaru.
I say this because they have boxer engines, AWD, and AFAIK their engines are easier to swap between cars compared to other car companies. MCM put a flat 6 into a legacy(?) if I’m not mistaken. Not to mention the WRX and STI engines as well as the cars themselves becoming classics. Plus there’s a lot you can do with a Subaru. You can put a small lift on it and have something that can tackle light trails or lower it and throw a turbo on the engine and have a sports wagon. That versatility, I think, will help all subies become classics in the future.
So what do you think Oppo? What modern cars will become classics or what will people look for in future classics as a whole? Keep in mind this is focused on regular cars, we all know Ferrari’s and Porsche’s will always be classics.
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
02/06/2017 at 18:27, STARS: 4
Land Cruiser is always the answer.
(LCIATA)
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
02/06/2017 at 18:31, STARS: 1
rolls off the tongue.
"interstate366, now In The Industry" (interstate366)
02/06/2017 at 18:31, STARS: 3
Anything with a manual transmission. Civics (particularly the 8th/9th gen Si’s), STi’s, etc. They’re in their last days, especially in the US.
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
02/06/2017 at 18:32, STARS: 1
Not quite regular, but I don’t see any way Phaetons aren’t going to be worth a crap ton in 20-30 years. They’ll have that same appeal that every antique overbuilt Merc barge has.
S2000s and MR2 Spyders.
All of the Cadillac V cars.
"Vítor" (vitorcesar)
02/06/2017 at 18:36, STARS: 1
I’d say the Mazda 6. Fantastic looks (a rare thing coming from Japan lately...), great driving dynamics, only ‘‘reasonable’’ engine. If Mazda, if the gods allows, releases another rotary, I’m sure there will be some people that will do the swap.
Also, any Tesla, first because it’s ‘‘the car that made electric cars relevant’’ so people will probably try to put the latest battery pack on them
And has the world is slowing making progress to ban diesel (thanks VW/Mitsubishi) all the great cars that are diesel will probably be swapped to a either electric, gas, or ethanol powertrain.
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
02/06/2017 at 18:38, STARS: 0
Not mention, if they haven’t done so already, I’m sure there’s going to be a lot of turbo kits for the 6.
"Vítor" (vitorcesar)
02/06/2017 at 18:44, STARS: 2
Or maybe just straight up swaps with the CX-9 engine
"misfitmascots" (misfitmascots)
02/06/2017 at 18:45, STARS: 3
"aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe" (emaxxbl)
02/06/2017 at 18:50, STARS: 1
NA miata
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
02/06/2017 at 19:01, STARS: 0
Sounds like something a French girl might do to her girlfriend.
"unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins)" (unclevanos)
02/06/2017 at 19:24, STARS: 1
( ° °)
"Nothing" (nothingatalluseful)
02/06/2017 at 19:41, STARS: 1
What somewhat affordable (no Porsche/Ferrari/etc) car do younger folks want or lust after now? There’s your answer. They will be the ones to drive the market in 20-30 years.
That said, most well kept older cars always have a cool vibe about them. That just makes them cool, though. Not collectible.
The M Coupe (clownshoe) will be, as its prices are still holding and increasing steadily.
"B_dol" (bdolan40)
02/06/2017 at 20:22, STARS: 1
Alfa Romeo Giulia - even in base spec its a looker.
In all seriousness, hoping my wife’s 228i MSport (MT) is the E46 335ci of the future.