by "Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind)
Published 01/30/2017 at 11:14
by "Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind)
Published 01/30/2017 at 11:14
Tags: Speculation
STARS: 3
This is the best I can come up with not being a diehard Kiwi Man myself. I simply disliked everyone feeling as if McLaren was releasing cars randomly since they don’t come across as a company that does ANYTHING without it being highly calculated. Hopefully this opens up some minds and lends some confidence (well as much as internet speculation can give anyways) to those looking towards buying a McLaren but don’t want to be surprised by a “better car” coming out a year later.
“Ultimate Series I”
1992-1998: McLaren F1
1995: McLaren F1 LM “road version of track series”
1995-1997: McLaren F1 GTR “track series”
1997: McLaren F1 GT “road version of track series”
“Ultimate Series II”
2013-2015: McLaren P1
2015-2016: McLaren P1 GTR “track series”
2016: McLaren P1 LM “road version of track series”
“Ultimate Series III”
2020-2022: McLaren G1 or some other name
2021-2022: McLaren G1 GTR “track series”
2022: McLaren G1 LM “road version of track series”
“Super Series I”
2011-2012: McLaren MP4-12C would be the [600C]
2012-2014: McLaren 12C becomes [625C] after retuned and dropping the MP4.
2012-2014: McLaren 12c Spider [625C Spider]
“Super Series Ia”
2014-2017: McLaren 650S is the Sport variant of the refreshed 625C.
2014-2017: McLaren 650S Spider
2015-2017: McLaren 625C refresh
2015-2017: McLaren 675LT is the top performance version of the Super Series
2016-2017: McLaren 675LT Spider
“Super Series II”
2018-2021: McLaren 725S
2019-2021: McLaren 725S Spider
2019-2021: McLaren 690C the “base” variant
2019-2021: McLaren 690C Spider
*2020-2021: NA [P1 successor debut and 720HS]
“Super Series IIa”
2021-2023: McLaren 780LT
2022-2024: McLaren 780LT Spider
2022-2025: McLaren 750S mid-cycle update from 720S
2022-2025: McLaren 720C mid-cycle update from 690C
2023-2025: McLaren 750S Spider
2023-2025: McLaren 720C Spider
2024-2025: *McLaren 780HS
2025: *McLaren 780HS Spider
“Sports Series I”
2015-2018: McLaren 570S “sport model”
2015-2018: McLaren 540C “base model”
2016-2018: McLaren 570 GT “touring variant”
2016-2017: *McLaren 570S GT4 and 570S Sprint
2017-2018: 570S Spider
2017-2018: 540C Spider
2018: BLANK [*725S Debut and 570S Special Edition]
“Sport Series Ia”
2019-2022: McLaren 570S refresh “no power bump”
2019-2022: McLaren 540C refresh
2019-2022: McLaren 570GT refresh
2020-2022: McLaren 570S Spider refresh
2020-2022: McLaren 540C Spider refresh
2021-2022: McLaren 595LT or some other name
2022: McLaren 595LT Spider
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If Im remotely close with this layout then it is looking as if 2021 and 2022 will see the P1 successor, what I’m calling the 780LT, and the pinnacle of the 570S range (I’m calling it the 595LT) all hitting the market simultaneously and likely creating a McLaren performance dominance across every supercar segment for two years or more. I would assume every competitor is already seeing this 1-2-3 McLaren take over and we should see a Golden Age of Supercars in 2020-2024 in which everything seems to be as fast as or faster than a 918.
Oppo, I couldn’t believe the performance increase cars reached between 2013 and 2016. But I think we are about to see the market really leap forward and peak in early-mid 2020s followed by a rapid drop off. Pretty much the 2000s-2010s-2020s will be a relative mirror of the 50s-60s-70s and we may not see performance like this again until we near the 2050s.
In summary, save your pennies and go crazy between 2020-2024 because these years will be the performance peak of this half of the century. But I’m just a dude that wakes up early on his days off, it’s not like I’m an authority on this stuff.
"djmt1" (djmt1)
01/30/2017 at 11:28, STARS: 0
A few things:
I wouldn’t include the F1 since that isn’t the same McLaren technically.
The P1 LM isn’t built by McLaren, it’s built by Lanzante.
You’re missing the actual next car in the Ultimate Series that being the 3 seater super hybrid GT.
Going forward for the next 5 years half of the cars with be electric in some capacity.
They haven’t decided if LT is gonna be their performance moniker.
"Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind)
01/30/2017 at 11:43, STARS: 0
I need to include the F1 and the conversions in the series for better context and because everyone would ask where they were. I think this 3-seater is going to be more inline with how Aston does the One-77/Vulcan or Lagonda or the Lamborghini Reventon/Veneno style projects. Existing in its own special branch outside of the main lineup.
I also don’t believe they will end up replacing their powertrain that substantially until around 2021 with the the P1 successor, followed by the Sports Series II in 2024 and the Super Series III in 2026.
"djmt1" (djmt1)
01/30/2017 at 11:49, STARS: 0
http://cars.mclaren.com/featured-articles/track22.html
“Finally, the plan encompasses new powertrains, with a fully electric system already in the prototype stages for evaluation in a possible future-generation Ultimate Series car. By 2022, the Track22 plan says that at least 50 per cent of McLaren cars will feature hybrid technology, following in the footsteps of the hugely successful petrol-electric McLaren P1™.”
"Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind)
01/30/2017 at 12:04, STARS: 0
Then I guess the P1 successor would be all-electric and the refresh of the Super Series II will get electric motors added to the V8 and change from the “725S” to “750S” and the rest following. That would be dead on time frame and about right if that lineup percentile isn’t just out of thin air.