A joke

by "bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
Published 01/30/2017 at 06:28

Tags: smug alert ; hybrid ; audi ; e-tron ; volkswagen ; tesla ; ford ; c-max ; chrysler ; pacifica ; minivan ; crossover
STARS: 2

I mean, it probably drives decently enough (I haven’t driven one, though). But, well, take a look at the efficiency.

Ignore the range figures, different battery sizes affect those. (Well, don’t ignore the fact that the C-Max Energi has better range than the A3 e-tron - it actually has a smaller battery.)

When your Golf (the A3 Sportback is just a Golf, and this powertrain is sold in the Golf GTE in Europe) has significantly worse efficiency (both electric and gasoline) than a tall Focus that’s been dogged by fuel economy scandals, that’s bad. And, as far as power goes... both have similar power across the board. Engine’s 150 hp 1.4T, vs. 148 hp Atkinson-cycle 2.0. Battery alone can provide 102 vs. 91 hp. Total system power is 204 vs. 195 hp. It’s not like the Audi’s a significantly more powerful vehicle.

When your Golf has worse electric efficiency, and only slightly better gasoline efficiency, than a giant “mini” van with a 3.6 Atkinson-cycle V6 with 248 hp, and a total system output of 260 hp? (Not sure how much power the Pacifica has from the battery only, I suspect they could’ve tuned it for far more than 260 system hp, though, if they wanted to.)

Or, when it has worse electric efficiency than a three-row crossover that can get to 60 in under 3 seconds (Tesla’s not releasing power figures any more it seems)... what the fuck, Volkswagen. Seriously, what the fuck.

Replies (6)

"That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
01/30/2017 at 06:47, STARS: 0

My vehicle gets 12mpg, so those numbers all look like voodoo black magic to me.

"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
01/30/2017 at 07:28, STARS: 2

Audi - not even once.

"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
01/30/2017 at 07:44, STARS: 1

The funny thing is, there actually is one thing that VAG got very right on this car - the packaging. Almost zero loss of cargo space (although you do lose the spare tire, but most PHEVs lose that) with an 8.8 kWh battery under the seat, and 10.6 gal (40 l) of fuel basically in the former spare tire well:

The only other PHEV hatch with similarly good packaging that I’ve seen is the Ioniq PHEV, with a similar layout (although the fuel tank is pushed forward some compared to the Audi) and similarly sized battery and fuel tank.

Compare to something like the Prius Prime, which has a mediocre cargo area with its 8.8 kWh battery (and it’s got a 11.3 gal or 43 l fuel tank under the seat, with some open space above the tank from where the regular Prius’s battery goes):

Or, worse, the C-Max Energi, with 7.6 kWh, and then a underseat 14 gal/53 l fuel tank:

"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
01/30/2017 at 07:58, STARS: 0

by the look of the pics, you’re right.

but as an Audi dealer employee, i’d never own an Audi.

not unless it’s an old one from early 80's or earlier.

"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
01/30/2017 at 08:23, STARS: 8

once you go Audi you never go back...to Audi

"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
01/30/2017 at 08:32, STARS: 0

Yeah, even if it weren’t a joke efficiency-wise, I still wouldn’t own it, after having owned three Volkswagens.