by "Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
Published 01/26/2017 at 01:01
by "Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
Published 01/26/2017 at 01:01
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This looks great
Still can’t get onboard with the tail lights but the Grand Prix is one of the more underrated early-2000s domestic designs. Especially with larger nice wheels.
"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
01/26/2017 at 01:07, STARS: 1
GTO is best Holden — I mean, Pontiac.
"CB" (jrcb)
01/26/2017 at 01:14, STARS: 2
I’d take this over the Juke below this post.
"Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch" (bman76)
01/26/2017 at 01:30, STARS: 3
It’s better than a Grand Am, but that’s not saying much. I give it 3/10 Pontiacs.
"Amoore100" (amoore100)
01/26/2017 at 01:39, STARS: 4
The rear is just right. The front bumper and hood are, uh, a bit much. Anyways, call me boring but I like this much better.
"AMGtech - now with more recalls!" (amgtech)
01/26/2017 at 02:30, STARS: 1
Give me this, a manual LS camero (or whatever), and a year and I will give you (figuratively speaking because I’d keep that shit) a rear wheel drive w-body
"Nick Has an Exocet" (nickallain)
01/26/2017 at 04:54, STARS: 0
Any idea what wheels those are? They look great.
Former Grand Prix owner here, but I always liked these cars. There’s no mistaking them for a performance car but they were great for grand touring. The 3800 Series II was also a fantastic motor.
"mattc993" (mattc993)
01/26/2017 at 05:10, STARS: 1
I think we have very different definitions of the word “great”.
"If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent" (essextee)
01/26/2017 at 05:53, STARS: 0
http://capecod.craigslist.org/cto/5941834842.html
"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
01/26/2017 at 08:12, STARS: 0
Those are Mustang wheels...
"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
01/26/2017 at 08:12, STARS: 1
They’re Mustang wheels, the 20" optional ones from the 15-17 Mustang
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 09:17, STARS: 0
Yup. All the five-lug late-90s through 2000s mid-sized and full-sized GM cars had the same bolt pattern that the Mustang still has so there is a stupid amount of aftermarket wheels for them.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 09:17, STARS: 0
These aren’t plastidipped gold though :(
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 09:17, STARS: 0
>1995
hahahahahaha *runs away*
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 09:18, STARS: 0
GTP 40th anniversary edition is one of the most surprising cars I’ve ever driven.
But yeah, those chrome grilles are horrid but that blue and those Mustang wheels are fantastic.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 09:18, STARS: 1
Needs less chrome grilles
"Sweet Trav" (thespunbearing)
01/26/2017 at 09:18, STARS: 0
I always liked the 1993-1996 GTP’s too bad they are W-Bodys, if only they were on a RWD platform. I’d love to put the body of one on a tube chassis.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 09:19, STARS: 0
They’re just so... bloated.
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
01/26/2017 at 09:22, STARS: 0
Still a big heavy FWD turd.
"for Michigan" (formichigan)
01/26/2017 at 09:29, STARS: 2
Would look better with 100% less fake scoops.
ETA: Just noticed the “aggreSSive” sticker across the windshield. Why would someone put an SS logo on a Pontiac?
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 10:22, STARS: 0
3384lbs is heavy?
What?
Genesis coupe is 3495 lbs
Chevy Camaro is 3339 lbs
Bugatti Veyron (lol) is 4044 lbs
The only sporty cars I can think of that weigh less than a Grand Prix is the FR-S and Miata. It’s a very nice highway car / sleeper / grand touring car.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 10:24, STARS: 0
It’s been done. There exists a twin-engined Grand prix (of this generation, though) with a tube chassis with a forced-induction 3800 in the back driving the rear wheels and another one in the front.
There’s also an early-90s Oldsmobile Shillouette (?) built the same way.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 10:25, STARS: 1
So a Grand Prix GTP 40th Anniversary Edition? Wanted one ever since I drove one. Suprisingly excellent car, really. Rides comfy yet taught and understeer is minimal, it’s the lightest car they ever threw a supercharged 3800 Series II into, the autobox is... competent. I’d definitely have one as a second car.
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
01/26/2017 at 10:31, STARS: 0
3400lb is heavy for a FWD 2 door. Heck I think my car is too heavy but its 3200lbs and AWD. Any way my personal experience with Gran Prixs of this area has not been good. Just that they don’t handle, are don’t actually feel fast(even with a supercharger) and have GM quality interiors.
"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
01/26/2017 at 10:47, STARS: 0
I have different wheels. I have the stock 18s. I’m not a huge fan of these, they look alright but I think 19 is the right size on the S550.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 10:53, STARS: 0
Needs 30s.
For fuel economy.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
01/26/2017 at 13:24, STARS: 1
When you can’t afford a GTo and you have no taste.... The only good thing on the car is the Mustang wheels
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 13:28, STARS: 0
not saying these are better, but the GTO isn’t exactly a pretty car.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
01/26/2017 at 14:54, STARS: 1
I think they are very pretty.
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
01/26/2017 at 15:28, STARS: 1
Looks neat enough, but still just a Grand Prix.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 15:29, STARS: 0
I dunno why people say that. They’re shitboxes but 7.4 second 0-60 in 2002 was *fast as shit* and the noise they make is almost cool enough to make you forget about the headliner lightly brushing your hair or the paint wearing off all the HVAC buttons
"Sovande" (sovande)
01/26/2017 at 15:41, STARS: 0
Sporty?
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
01/26/2017 at 15:50, STARS: 0
I mean, not that fast. That 60 time is only half a second faster than a period Taurus, .4 of a second slower than a V6 Accord sedan, and pretty much tied with a Nissan Altima. It’s certainly no slouch, but it’s not fast enough for it to be cool based on that alone
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 16:54, STARS: 1
Have you driven a GTP? They’re pretty fun, especially with good tires. And they have torque eeeeverywhere.
"Sovande" (sovande)
01/26/2017 at 19:09, STARS: 0
No, I haven’t, so my comment was a bit narrow minded. I can’t get past how painfully unattractive they are. They don’t seem sporty to me at all. They seem bloated and the styling seems forced. And the interiors are woeful. At least to me, anyway.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/26/2017 at 19:22, STARS: 0
They’re horrible but GM put a supercharged V6 in them which is hilarious.
"QCGoose" (chrismcfate)
01/26/2017 at 23:26, STARS: 1
Actually the design is mid-’90's: The production version of the then-new-for-’97 was revealed in early ‘96, so this car’s design likely began in ‘94 or ‘95. Crazy when you think about it.
I remember when these first hit the roads, how AWESOME they looked compared to the competition, and even cars in different classes. These things were so hot when they were new.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/27/2017 at 00:36, STARS: 0
Yeah it’s crazy when you think about design and realize that the design of any given car was in the works for probably 3 years before it actually hit the road.
"79 horsepower monster" (tdwpgtp)
03/24/2017 at 08:07, STARS: 1
Don’t ask me how I stumbled across this thread, but I had a few things to say. The 0-60 for the GTP was actually reported to be in the mid-6's, depending on the year, which was actually quite fast for the time. Sure, some of the really high performance Germans and muscle cars would beat it, but in some cases, not by much. It was really a good highway cruiser and, providing you could get the power to the ground, was quick off the line. It also had instantaneous torque basically anywhere in the rev band, and could get over 30MPG cruising on the highway from 55-70. I managed 33MPG on a 3 hour drive doing 70mph on my last long drive.
Additionally, many people forget that their impressions of these cars are after nearly 100k hard miles. The owners of these cars drove them hard, and it showed. 3 years ago I bought a 2000 GTP Daytona with 3,600 miles on it, and I was actually surprised at how nice the interior was when in new condition. Sure, it looked dated and had typical 90s GM plastic, but it was quite comfortable and quiet. It wasn’t exactly sparse in the features department, either. It had a heated/powered drivers seat, wonderful heads up display, a sunroof, Bose stereo (which was alright), all of the typical safety sensors like ABS, traction control, etc, and very comfortable leather seats...All you need to do is track down a couple squeaks and fix them. I honestly like these cars, all things considered, and wish that there were more around that haven’t been beaten on and rusted to pieces. They do make really nice low priced, decent performing daily drivers.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
03/24/2017 at 09:39, STARS: 1
I do desperately wish it was easier to find these in good condition. A quick check on Craigslist for sub-100k-mile Grand Prix’ returned only one 2002 GT with a disappointing lack of blower