by "zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
Published 01/24/2017 at 10:06
by "zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
Published 01/24/2017 at 10:06
Tags: Musiclopnik
STARS: 0
So I’ve recently acquired a record player (a Montgomery Ward Airline), despite having never owned a record player before. I figured out how to turn it on (two power switches), discovered the correct settings (12 size, 33 speed), but the tone arm is where I’m having trouble.
When I turn the player on, and move the arm over to read the record, the arm automatically lifts up, and goes back into the rest position, as it’s shown in the pics. It does this every time, no matter where I place the arm, and I don’t want to force it either; this thing is old and I don’t want to break it.
Does oppo have any suggestions I can try? Or has anyone dealt with this model in particular, and knows what to do? Thanks in advance. 8 track works though.
"Trevor Slattery, ACTOR" (anacostiabikecompany)
01/24/2017 at 10:16, STARS: 1
Try sliding the “Cue” Button and see what happens, I think that is the issue if memory serves.
I would get a new needle if possible. That one is probably toast.
https://www.turntableneedles.com/
"Scott" (merl3noir)
01/24/2017 at 10:21, STARS: 1
Ohh you got one of them fancy electronic phonographs. I have our old wind up victrola. I don’t know the specifics of that record player. Obviously it thinks it has reached the end of the record. I’m trying to activate my old brain mater to see if I can recall anything helpful. All I can think of is generic information like look around the base of the arm for a switch that might be activated when the arm is moved out. I suspect it may require a little bit of disassembly, and I’m not even going to try and suggest that considering last time I did anything with a fancy electronic phonograph I was 12, and Reagan was still in his first term.
"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
01/24/2017 at 10:22, STARS: 3
“Cher’s Golden Greats”
Damn, not only do you have a boss vintage turntable, you also have perhaps the most appropriate music to play on it. I grew up with turntables, but, as I look at it, I can’t for the life of me remember how to operate one. I just remember that sometimes you have to tape a penny on the tonearm to keep it from skipping. Try this:
http://www.wikihow.com/Operate-a-Turntable
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 10:26, STARS: 0
Cue lowers and lifts the arm, but doesn’t move it from side to side. I tried to use it, but the arm keeps going back to the rest position.
"LOREM IPSUM" (lorem---ipsum)
01/24/2017 at 10:28, STARS: 2
Cool, an original cd changer!
Hope you can get it operable.
"That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms" (thatbastardkurtis5)
01/24/2017 at 10:29, STARS: 0
Is it fully automatic or semi? If it’s full auto maybe it doesn’t want you to cue it manually at all? If it’s semi, then it must think you’re at the end of the record...can you physically move the arm all the way to the center of the record?
"Trevor Slattery, ACTOR" (anacostiabikecompany)
01/24/2017 at 10:36, STARS: 1
Try playing a record with the album holder (“L” shaped piece) off to the side by the tonearm.
"Trevor Slattery, ACTOR" (anacostiabikecompany)
01/24/2017 at 10:37, STARS: 1
We can talk about “Cher’s Golden Hits,” at another time. K?
"Thomas Donohue" (tomonomics)
01/24/2017 at 10:39, STARS: 0
Note: I am not a turntable repairman, but I did break many of these back in the day.
There’s likely a problem with the tensioner thingy that sends the arm back at the end of a record. If you can move the arm with the player OFF, see if you feel resistance or a bump as you move it left. That spring thing might need to be adjusted. Also not sure what that knob it, perhaps a fine tune to adjust it? Good luck.
I just got some old vinyl for Christmas and will be setting up my (newer) record player this weekend.
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 10:53, STARS: 1
Hahaha. I read it’s possible to damage records if you don’t put the needle on just right. So I selected a sacrificial record that I cared nothing about. Plus, it’s a greatest hits, those are usually worth nothing. :p.
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 10:55, STARS: 0
Same here, I also got some old classical music records which I really want to hear too! :).
"TheTurbochargedSquirrel" (thatsquirrel)
01/24/2017 at 10:56, STARS: 1
I have also never owned a record player but I have a good understanding of the basic principles of how electro-mechanical systems work. It sounds to me like your machine has a auto stop feature. It seems to me that when you place the arm the record player thinks that it has reached the end of the record and returns itself to the resting position. I would look for some kind of switch or other sensing method that would be activated (or deactivated if they wanted to be weird) when the arm reaches the middle of the record. I bet you may have a switch that is stuck or broken. Also check on line to see if you can find a pdf of the original manual for your player.
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 10:56, STARS: 0
You mean if I lift it up and move, yes I can. Though the arm usually takes control once I let it go.
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 10:58, STARS: 0
There are a lot of settings for the arm, that knob was one of them. Forget what though. What does the tensioner do?
"Agrajag" (Agrajag)
01/24/2017 at 11:01, STARS: 0
On mine you have to swing the arm away(to the right) of the record to get it spinning. Then bring it back over and place accordingly.
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 11:04, STARS: 0
I’m probably going to go through and see what I want and what I don’t. I got at least 20+ more records underneath the player as well, plus 8 track tapes, including the beetles.
Weirdly, I got this for the classical music records, not for Cher, the mamas and the papas, or three dog nights, and the list goes on, lol.
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 11:05, STARS: 0
Cracy enough to try. I’ll try it when I get home.
"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
01/24/2017 at 11:10, STARS: 0
Vinyl is hot right now. I’ve got some old classical recordings that I’d love to listen to, or transfer to CD, but I don’t have a player. My dad, who used to review classical LPs for the local paper, just donated about 3,000 LPs to a school in his area.
"random001" (random001)
01/24/2017 at 11:16, STARS: 1
I just recently got a new pre-amp that has a USB output on the line to a pc in order to do just that. I love some vinyl. I liked it before it was “cool” though....
"Trevor Slattery, ACTOR" (anacostiabikecompany)
01/24/2017 at 11:28, STARS: 0
I seem to remember having that piece over the album engaged the “auto return” function that automatically cued up the next album. You know that is what that does right? You can stack like four albums on the top of the spindle and it will play them one after the other.
"Thomas Donohue" (tomonomics)
01/24/2017 at 11:35, STARS: 1
As the arm gets closer to the center of the record, there is either a tensioner or switch that triggers the auto-return function. Your player appears to think that threshold is on the outer part of the record, not the inner. Might be an adjustment (that knob or a screw), might be a broken plastic part.
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 11:52, STARS: 0
Thanks! Will check it out.
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 11:53, STARS: 0
On mine it starts spinning with a switch.
"gmctavish needs more space" (gmctavish)
01/24/2017 at 12:05, STARS: 1
So yours looks like an older version of this
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It can have multiple records stacked up and qeued to play, which I’ve never seen before. But if yours has a switch like he is pulling to drop the record, that might be your problem, since that switch makes the tone arm reset.
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 12:14, STARS: 0
That’s what it’s supposed to do, not exactly sure how though.
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 12:17, STARS: 1
Video won’t load at work :(, I’ll have to check later. But yeah, mine is suppose to support having multiple records or something. That’s what the directions said at least.
"zeontestpilot" (zeontestpilot)
01/24/2017 at 12:19, STARS: 0
Yeah, a lot of bands release vinyl versions of their album nowadays.
"Blue2010SRT" (Blue2010SRT)
01/26/2017 at 06:00, STARS: 1
It’s been a long time since I had an automatic turntable, but here goes:
When the record is finished, the tonearm should lift itself and return to the rest position. If there are still records stacked in the suspended position, the next one should drop (common issue is a second one also dropping) and the tonearm should move on its own and start playing. Once there are no others stacked up to be played, everything should shut off.
For manual playing as you are trying in your description:
As mentioned, I’ve never seen a turntable with a record size selector - normally on an automatic turntable it knows the physical size of the media based on the speed, i.e. singles are always 45rpm, and are always 7"; LPs are 33-1/3rpm and 12"; and really old singles, if you ever find one, are 78rpm and 10". I have never seen a 16 rpm record - I’ll bet it’s only for playing encoded satanist messages on otherwise innocuous-seeming singles or LPs. Having said that, to manually play one as you’re trying above, I’ll bet you need to set the size selector to M (manual hopefully?).