by "ImmoralMinority" (araimondo)
Published 01/22/2017 at 12:43
by "ImmoralMinority" (araimondo)
Published 01/22/2017 at 12:43
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Today we are going to look at Volvos and Subarus. Any advice on these cars? I have no experience with these brands.
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"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/22/2017 at 12:57, STARS: 1
I’d seriously look at the newer Volvos, but I would be tempted to avoid Subaru as the oil consumption issues are still happening with the FB engines (just to a lesser extent).
"Phyrxes once again has a wagon!" (phyrxes)
01/22/2017 at 12:58, STARS: 0
Subarus are manuals or CVTs, I didn’t hate the CVT in the one I test drove as they had no manuals on the lot. The Outback is the biggest model in their fleet and the motor selection makes a huge difference in how it feels to drive.
New Volvos are supposed to be amazing but get pricey. Looking at them will give you a good idea of the price point and will provide a good baseline for anything else “luxury” she is thinking about.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/22/2017 at 12:58, STARS: 0
My experience with Subarus is that they all leak oil.
"TheTurbochargedSquirrel" (thatsquirrel)
01/22/2017 at 13:17, STARS: 0
Subaru honestly has the best CVT of any manufacturer.
"Phyrxes once again has a wagon!" (phyrxes)
01/22/2017 at 13:21, STARS: 0
That I would believe given all the ones I hated doing test drives.
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
01/22/2017 at 13:31, STARS: 1
And blow head...
Gaskets.
"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
01/22/2017 at 13:55, STARS: 0
Volvos are lower on the reliability charts than Subaru, by a long shot. The XC90's are still having teething issues.
"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
01/22/2017 at 13:58, STARS: 1
If you enjoy the reliability of your Toyota, walk the fuck away from the Volvo dealer. Subaru’s do have some issues, but none as prevalent or expensive. That and Subaru’s customer service is apparently amazing, even out of warranty.
"Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
01/22/2017 at 14:08, STARS: 1
I have a 2013 outback and it is a very nice car on a day-to-day basis but it has had some reliability issues that have made me decide to never buy a subaru again. For our next car I’m seriously looking at a basic Mazda 6 sedan, or a 4-door pick-up.
"gmctavish needs more space" (gmctavish)
01/22/2017 at 14:08, STARS: 0
The Subarus are less expensive and more reliable, the Volvos are more expensive but more premium looking and feeling. They’ll also have some of the best seats ever.
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
01/22/2017 at 14:20, STARS: 0
WRX. That’s all
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/22/2017 at 14:24, STARS: 0
So far, there haven’t been any widespread teething issues on T6 builds with dates of September 2016 or later.
In terms of Subaru, I don’t think anyone wants a normal car with known hardware issues. Cycling the key usually fixes infotainment and active driving sensors on most cars, whereas the same cannot be said for engines. Five years ago, Subaru was way ahead of Volvo both in efficiency and quality, but the same can’t be said right now. It’s somewhat of a shame considering how competent and practical the current Outback is.
"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
01/22/2017 at 14:45, STARS: 0
So have the failing engines, power steering, and infotainment been fixed?
"FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com" (alphaass)
01/22/2017 at 14:55, STARS: 0
I assume that the Subaru you’ll be looking at is the Outback since you’ll be doing family trips with it. On anything above the base model, you should be able to get $3,000+ off of sticker, so keep that in mind when you look at prices. Accessories also may be negotiable in price in purchases with the car, if you want a roof box or something. I haggled a free bike carrier in with mine. Despite some folks here saying the have some reliability issues, mine has been completely fine through 60k. (We did have tire and windshield repairs, but those were our own fault.). Check out the service area while you’re there. My experience had been that they very from dealer to dealer. My current place is great and could be mistaken for a Lexus service area of it weren’t for the brand new super ritzy Lexus dealer they own across the street. Oh PS if you do need a roof carrier to replace some of the space lost to a minivan, most Outbacks have cross rails that stow inside the side rails and swing out when needed.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/22/2017 at 15:06, STARS: 0
The engines and EPS have been fixed, and only minor intermittent glitches have been reported with infotainment on late 2016 cars (most are voice recognition related). I don’t think Volvo was quite ready for production of the SPA platform, as it had been over a decade since they launched an entirely in-house platform. Luckily, they seem to have got it right in the past few months, and the November software update for Sensus Connect helped immensely.
"Dogsatemypants" (kb113400)
01/23/2017 at 02:14, STARS: 0
Start it and pull the dipstick. If you have a vacuum gage, it should read negative pressure from dip tube. No gage, feel for suctiin with finger. If positive or neutral pressure the pcv system may be clogged.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
01/23/2017 at 14:45, STARS: 0
I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD DO NOT BUY A SUBARU WITHOUT THE 3.6R OR A TURBO. The rest will fail on you. And the 3.6R Outback (non touring) is a beast of a machine! Check it out and if that is what you want get the plan that covers for the synthetic oil changes rather than the conventional. I mean the conventional is fine, but the synth will make that car last for literally ever as long as all other services are preformed too.