by "someassemblyrequired" (someassemblyrequired)
Published 01/14/2017 at 00:13
by "someassemblyrequired" (someassemblyrequired)
Published 01/14/2017 at 00:13
Tags: crimelopnik
; planelopnik
STARS: 7
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“Dan Cooper” or “DB Cooper” hijacked Northwest Orient flight 305 from Portland to Seattle on November 4, 1971, jumping from the rear airstair with $200,000. He was never found by the FBI. If you’re unfamiliar with the story, broadcasting legend Bill Kurtis has the details in the news video above from 1971.
There is still a group of citizens investigating the case, and they found some interesting trace elements on a J.C. Penney tie Cooper left behind before his jump.
Apparently there are traces of a number of advanced materials used in aerospace and CRT displays, consistent with some of the work Boeing was doing at the time with the SST (SuperSonic Transport) and display technology. The fact that he wore tie in the presence of those substances also is leading investigators to theorize he was a manager, engineer or supervisor for Boeing or one of its contractors.
The timing of the hijacking would also jive with this thoery as well. Congress ended funding for the SST program in mid-1971, throwing many aerospace employees out of work. It devastated the economy in the Seattle area, and might have given DB Cooper motive to commit one of the Pacific Northwest’s most infamous crimes.
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"facw" (facw)
01/14/2017 at 00:25, STARS: 7
Ooh, an excuse to post photos of the 2707 mockup!
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
01/14/2017 at 00:29, STARS: 0
very interesting.
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
01/14/2017 at 00:57, STARS: 1
If they find out who he is I hope they don’t arrest him. At this point I think he’s earned it lol. Although the statue of limitations is probably up anyway.
"someassemblyrequired" (someassemblyrequired)
01/14/2017 at 01:21, STARS: 2
A grand jury indicted him in absentia back in 1976 just in case he was apprehended, but yeah don’t think there’d be much justice served by sending him to prison now - he’d be well into his 80s or 90s if he was still alive (FBI description had him as mid-40s in 1971).
"RallyWrench" (rndlitebmw)
01/14/2017 at 01:22, STARS: 0
Well I’ll be damned, I hope they can follow up on this.
"someassemblyrequired" (someassemblyrequired)
01/14/2017 at 01:25, STARS: 1
"someassemblyrequired" (someassemblyrequired)
01/14/2017 at 01:27, STARS: 2
If only so we can know the dude’s story. I don’t want to see the guy go to jail, I kinda just want to know his reasons and how he managed to not get caught.
"Tazio, Count Fouroff" (tazio0625)
01/14/2017 at 01:45, STARS: 1
Didn’t they find a few scattered bills of the cash a few years ago in the PNW woods along the flight path (and maybe shreds of parachute or clothing)?
Seems as if they concluded he might have died in the jump... (or is that simply what he wanted us to think? Hmmm)
"garagemonkee" (monke)
01/14/2017 at 01:48, STARS: 2
"RallyWrench" (rndlitebmw)
01/14/2017 at 01:48, STARS: 1
Same here, as far as I’m concerned the guy is a folk hero.
"Thomas Donohue" (tomonomics)
01/14/2017 at 10:54, STARS: 3
There he is!!!!
"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
01/14/2017 at 11:03, STARS: 3
The general consensus is that he died in the jump. But no body, no proof.
"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
01/14/2017 at 11:08, STARS: 2
The timing of the hijacking would also jive with this thoery as well. Congress ended funding for the SST program in mid-1971, throwing many aerospace employees out of work.
This is actually the most plausible explanation I have ever read. Seems to me that it should be pretty easy to assemble a list of people who were working on the project. They’d probably also have many photos. It’s a mystery that I’d like to see solved, but I also share the sentiment of others that, if they find him, they should leave him be.
"someassemblyrequired" (someassemblyrequired)
01/14/2017 at 12:06, STARS: 2
The FBI found evidence to indicate he wasn’t an experienced skydiver, given that the parachutes he used had their reserves sewn shut. He also left the airplane with it travelling over 200 MPH, making it likely he was injured or killed when he jumped.
A boy discovered some of the cash in 1980, but 10 bills were missing from one bundle, and since the Army Corps of Engineers had dredged the area in 1974, there’s theories that it was buried later than that.
"someassemblyrequired" (someassemblyrequired)
01/14/2017 at 12:07, STARS: 1
Yep - I probably should have put that up top. Thanks for adding it here.
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/14/2017 at 19:19, STARS: 1
No. They found bundles of cash with some missing (removed from the bundle) along the Columbia River in 1980. For numerous reasons, it added more confusion than answers.
The only other physical evidence found that wasn’t among the things left on the plane was some documentation about lowering the stairs found deep in the woods near the estimated flight path.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
01/15/2017 at 11:40, STARS: 1
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"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
01/15/2017 at 11:43, STARS: 0
Wouldn’t a statute of limitations apply?
"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
01/15/2017 at 12:05, STARS: 1
From the NYT in 2014:
He said it had initially been deemed a case of air piracy, a felony that carried a statute of limitations of five years. However, a grand jury indicted the hijacker in absentia for violating the Hobbs Act, another federal statute aimed to prevent extortion that carried no statute of limitations.
“In theory, if Cooper were to walk out of the woods today, he could theoretically be charged with a crime,” he wrote.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/14/us/where-is-db-cooper-fbi-ends-45-year-hunt.html
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
01/15/2017 at 12:16, STARS: 0
Theoretically...
"someassemblyrequired" (someassemblyrequired)
01/15/2017 at 13:27, STARS: 0
Photo aging of the sketch reveals what he would look like now:
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
01/15/2017 at 13:46, STARS: 0
Yes, but optimized.
"NJAnon" (NJAnon)
01/15/2017 at 18:10, STARS: 0
Well considering that we somehow cannot find large 747+ planes that crash, I think that they may need to just realize finding a single person that jumped back in the 70's might not be possible.
Might need to focus on why large planes in the 21st century can’t be tracked correctly and found.
"someassemblyrequired" (someassemblyrequired)
01/16/2017 at 10:50, STARS: 1
The reason MH370 is proving so hard to find is there is very little satellite coverage in the Indian Ocean. There are still large sections of the world where your only option is HF radio. That’s something where someone on the aircraft needs to transmit out - if they are a bad actor, or incapacitated, that won’t happen. ACARS data is relayed up to satellites passively, but if there’s no satellite covering the area (or only one) triangulation isn’t possible. Combine that with the fact that the airplane ran out of gas at altitude, and you have no post crash fire (and likely a very small debris field). That makes detecting the crash site, even with military satellites difficult.
The search for the airplane continues, though it sounds like they are going to wrap up relatively soon:
https://www.atsb.gov.au/mh370-pages/updates/operational-update/
"NJAnon" (NJAnon)
01/16/2017 at 16:55, STARS: 0
And that wasn’t the only plane. Send up more satellites or they need to be re-distributed for a wide area. I understand that the Malaysian flight companies and air traffic control protocols aren’t the same mostly everywhere currently. But that also needs to be changed.
If planes can have flight paths that are literally street widths apart then there should be adequate supplement tracking all the way. I have no possible idea how to implement any of the stuff I mentioned, but it just sucks even more for some of those people that they don’t even have proper details to know if their family member is alive or dead.