by "G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
Published 01/12/2017 at 00:21
by "G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
Published 01/12/2017 at 00:21
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They’re opulent, they’re powerful, they’re roomy, and they’re practical. You can bomb down interstates at 90 MPH all day long, switch up the dampers and throttle mapping to make it surprisingly fun on a backroad, jack up the air suspension and go up a trail to a rented (or owned) cottage, tow a small watercraft to the boat launch, and comfortably accommodate four friends through all of this. They’re also way cheaper than DB11s, Granturismos, Dawns, and nicely-equipped AMG GTS coupes, which means you can spend the extra money on more adventure.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
01/12/2017 at 00:24, STARS: 0
no, not fast SUV’s, those are terrifying at speed...I know. You mean fast crossovers.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 00:26, STARS: 0
Technically yes.
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
01/12/2017 at 00:34, STARS: 9
You are wrong and you should feel bad:
"Milky" (jordanmielke)
01/12/2017 at 00:35, STARS: 0
Call me when its a 2 door. Otherwise, nah.
"Shift24" (the-nope)
01/12/2017 at 00:39, STARS: 4
I like what your saying and so does Clint Eastwood
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
01/12/2017 at 00:40, STARS: 0
we had a GMT400 suburban that had a supercharged 454, and it could get to its governed limit of 99 WAAAY too fast...and it was unpleasant. Thats a fast SUV and no thanks!
"Audistein" (Audistein)
01/12/2017 at 00:40, STARS: 10
LWB sedans are better in every way. Ride better, handle better, and are more comfortable at speed. The longer wheel base and lower suspension make for a far better experience on the freeway, especially at 100+ mph. The seating position is also superior to SUVs and you can usually get 30-40 way adjustable massage seats which aren’t available in most premium SUVs. Even the SUVs that have massage seats don’t have as many adjustments as big sedans.
Big sedans are also way quieter. Even expensive, $100k+ SUVs has more wind noise than a sedan. SUV just displace so much air that there’s no getting around it even with insulation and noise canceling. Also all SUVs get terrible mileage over 80 mph. While large sedan can do 500+ miles per tank on the freeway at speed most SUVs will struggle to do 350-400 miles.
You can even jack up air suspension on sedans for a few inches of ground clearance. It’s enough to tackle a maintained trail or slowly drive over a curb.
This is coming from the owner of a V8 full-size sedan who also has a fast premium SUV.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 00:47, STARS: 0
I wouldn’t trust a supercharged big block 454 in a GMT400. Mine had a somewhat built small block, and it had way too much power for the chassis.
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
01/12/2017 at 00:47, STARS: 0
But how far offroad can they go?
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
01/12/2017 at 00:48, STARS: 0
Did you just make me wanna hot rod a CUV and put it on bags? Yes, I think so.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 00:51, STARS: 0
True, although going 60 MPH on gravel in a Mercedes ML is way too much fun. Massive rally car!
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
01/12/2017 at 00:51, STARS: 0
well it was the 3/4 ton, so it had a beefier chassis, but the steering...good lawd the steering!
"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
01/12/2017 at 00:52, STARS: 2
Probably just as far as those hunchbacked monstrosities. Ground clearance =/= off-road ability.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 00:54, STARS: 0
Mine had almost 6 inches of play, even though the previous owner just installed new pitman and idler arms. Truly shocking.
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
01/12/2017 at 00:54, STARS: 0
I bet that’s a fun car. The camber’s so positive!
I’ll see myself out.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/12/2017 at 00:56, STARS: 3
It’s an unpopular opinion for a reason. SUVs and crossovers are utterly horrid grand tourers.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
01/12/2017 at 00:57, STARS: 1
yup, we called it disney steering cause it was like those old disney movies where they are sawing the wheel and having no direct effect
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My wife hated driving that car.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 01:07, STARS: 0
Most are, but stuff like the Cayenne Turbo S, GLE63 S, and X5M are awesome over distance.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 01:12, STARS: 0
It really is diabolical, isn’t it?
"Amoore100" (amoore100)
01/12/2017 at 01:13, STARS: 1
Only if this is your definition of interstate
10/10 would rally again
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 01:13, STARS: 1
And how many fast wagons can you get here, let alone with all the toys you find in top end SUVs?
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 01:14, STARS: 1
60 MPH on gravel in an ML500 with air suspension is absolutely awesome.
"Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch" (bman76)
01/12/2017 at 01:36, STARS: 1
Enough, and toys are for children.
"DanZman" (DanielHarpel)
01/12/2017 at 01:45, STARS: 0
How far can those things go on a tank of gas?
"gmctavish needs more space" (gmctavish)
01/12/2017 at 01:54, STARS: 0
My Blazer also had the good ‘ol appalling GM steering quality. Fun times sawing the wheel back and forth vigorously at highway speed with no change at all to the direction of the truck. It confused/entertained passengers.
"gmctavish needs more space" (gmctavish)
01/12/2017 at 01:55, STARS: 0
Same with the Blazer. I asked my mechanic if I should get anything replaced, and he said it was all within factory spec.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
01/12/2017 at 06:58, STARS: 1
SUVs and
crossovers are utterly horrid grand tourers.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
01/12/2017 at 06:59, STARS: 0
+1 for Typhoon.
"Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer" (smallbear94)
01/12/2017 at 07:03, STARS: 0
-Says SUV
-Posts scrunched CUV
Anyway, you’re wrong. Quick crew-cab pickups ftw.
Pictured: Hnnng
Also, because obligatory:
"LongbowMkII" (longbowmkii)
01/12/2017 at 07:15, STARS: 0
The most important thing about a GT car is style. Crossovers don’t have them.
"Azrek" (azrek)
01/12/2017 at 08:07, STARS: 0
I had honestly been looking at a Macan GTS as a replacement for my E92 M3 (I am close to paying it off and debating if I wanted a new toy). I love the idea of a fast SUV that can do some offroad stuff.
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
01/12/2017 at 08:15, STARS: 0
air suspension......
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/12/2017 at 09:58, STARS: 1
That doesn’t make them grand tourers. At all. Go look up what a GT car is and come back later.
"Vicente Esteve" (vicente-esteve)
01/12/2017 at 10:27, STARS: 1
I’ll tell you exactly what they are useful for.
Third world/Developing countries.
Driving in the US or in Europe with nicely paved roads and logically placed speedhumps is pointless in a crossover, hence why they still don’t make much sense. In a country like Mexico where there are endless potholes, random gravel, dirt, imbeciles driving public transport vehicles, banked curves, massive crests and deformations in the pavement you just can’t go fast in something like an M6. An X6M? Oh boy no one will even touch you without destroying the underside of their car.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 13:05, STARS: 0
We’re not getting the middle one, and the other two aren’t in the same league of performance as a GLE63 S.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 13:09, STARS: 0
I don’t know about the Cayenne or X5M, but a GLE63 S Coupe will go between 360 and 380 miles on a tank.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 13:10, STARS: 0
Yeah?
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 13:18, STARS: 0
I know what a GT car is, but this is more of an analysis of purpose.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 13:34, STARS: 1
That reminds me. The new issue of Road & Track has a story where they take a G65 AMG and a Ural up a volcano. It’s epic.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/12/2017 at 13:36, STARS: 0
What. What the fuck? There’s nothing to analyze. Stop throwing words around, they’re not your food. A Grand Touring car must be a 2-door car with room for two people and their luggage with a two seat or 2+2 seating arrangement, designed from the ground-up for the purpose of being a grand tourer, with all focus on the car to the comfort and driving sensation to the driver.
First and foremost a grand tourer is a driver’s car. They don’t chase lap times, they don’t smash ‘ring times, they’re meant to provide the essence of motoring in luxury all the way across the country’s motorways.
That is a grand touring car. SUVs do not have the seating arrangement, most lack the correct amount of doors, they either have incompetent handling or horrid stiff suspension to very little end because the handling will always be compromised severely by the height and bulk of these monstrosities.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 13:54, STARS: 0
The thing you’re overlooking here is purpose. A GT car is used to crush continents in comfort, luxury, speed, and relative style. They’re not strictly driver-focused, and they’re not strictly for only two people. Therefore, a fast SUV fits the bill just as good as, if not better than, most “GT” cars at what a GT car is supposed to do. Handling and driver-focus is more of a sports car thing than a GT car thing, so it’s best to leave that to the F-types and Corvettes of the world.
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/12/2017 at 14:21, STARS: 0
They’re not strictly driver-focused
Yes they are. They’re all about swaddling the driver in luxury and giving them a good time behind the wheel on a road trip.
they’re not strictly for only two people.
They’re about two doors and two people with an optional back seat for *reasons*
Handling and driver-focus is more of a sports car thing than a GT car thing
No it isn’t.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 14:32, STARS: 0
If you think all GT cars are highly driver-focused, the Maserati Granturismo, Mercedes S63 Coupe, Aston Martin Rapide, and Bentley Continental GT would like to have a word with you. The GLE63 is more fun to drive than any of these, save for the S63 Coupe (my jury’s still out on that).
"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
01/12/2017 at 14:44, STARS: 0
Have you driven any of them? Do you have even the slightest idea what the fuck you’re talking about or are you just regurgitating what Youtube personalities tell you to?
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 14:49, STARS: 0
I’ve driven the W164 63 for half a day, the Granturismo for about 15 minutes, and the Continental for about 20. As much as I hate the conspicuous consumption and displays of wealth here, it has given me some nice opportunities.
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
01/12/2017 at 15:08, STARS: 0
not a fan
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/12/2017 at 15:11, STARS: 0
To be fair, your experience of air suspension was with an Allroad.